High testosterone and no libido

[Victor30]

This is my first post here .I need some serious help ! I'm 21yr old male and I feel like i have no sex drive . I don't know what's wrong with me . I have this problem for almost a year ,my libido has gradually been getting worse and worse .I feel so down ... This is my blood test !

Prolactin 13,44 ng/ml
(4,04 - 15,2)

Total Testosterone 8, 29 ng/ml
(3,30 - 8,05 )

Free Testosterone 29,000 pg/month
(1,000 - 28,280)

Estradiol 17 pg/ml
(11,3 - 43,2)

SHBG 52,00 nmol/L
(10,00 - 57,00

FSH 3,76 UI/L
(1,5 - 12,4)

LH 5,70 UI/L
(1,7 - 8,6)

Cortisol 375,2 nmol/L
A.M: (138 - 635)
P.M: (83 - 441)

Progesterone 0,21 ng/ml
(0,05 - 0,149)

TSH 1,4400 mUI/L
(0,27 -4,20)

TT3 0,94 ng/ml
(0,60 - 1,81)

FTI 2,89 ug/dl
(1,40 - 3,10 )

TT4 8,74 ug/dl
(4,50 -10,90)

Total Cholesterol 115
(<200)

Any suggestions???

 

[NurseGray]

Having low estrogen has always had a slight effect on my sex drive believe it or not. Dry cycles mess with my sex drive while wet compounds always boost it up.

 

[booneman77]

Having low estrogen has always had a slight effect on my sex drive believe it or not. Dry cycles mess with my sex drive while wet compounds always boost it up.

Too high or too low e can both tank libido.

OP, you should get your estrogen checked (not just estradiol)

 

[bigdavid]

Too high or too low e can both tank libido.

OP, you should get your estrogen checked (not just estradiol)

What would even be the solution if the blood work came back less than optimal? I am assuming the OP is not on any hormonal products.
OP is the assumption that you are not taking any supplements to influence hormones true?

OP have you had any major life events or changes over the past year? Do you have a history of depression or have any psychiatric issues in the family? That being said are you taking any medications or OTC supplements? If so it would be helpful to list them all for us to help.

 

[AdelV]

Honestly this reminds me of myself.
My Endo asked if I was on steroids ?

I've always had a low libido, well after 18-20, around that time it dropped.

I build muscle quite easy tho, little effort with diet.

Unfortunately Drs are no help!
My DHEA was through the roof, Androgen level too.

Let me know how you go!!!

 

[Killcure666]

Your prolactin is on the higher end of the normal range, maybe bringing that down could help

 

[booneman77]

What would even be the solution if the blood work came back less than optimal? I am assuming the OP is not on any hormonal products.
OP is the assumption that you are not taking any supplements to influence hormones true?

OP have you had any major life events or changes over the past year? Do you have a history of depression or have any psychiatric issues in the family? That being said are you taking any medications or OTC supplements? If so it would be helpful to list them all for us to help.

Well you can treat just estrogen (or really any hormonal imbalance) solo. with either an ai (if high) or some type of hormone therapy if low.

 

[Victor30]

Thx for your support. I'm not taking anything to influence my hormones. I'm not on any kind of medication , i eat healthy food regulary and I hit the gym 5-6 days /week . No depression . I was thinking to start a test prop cycle... what do you think ?

 

[AdelV]

Thx for your support. I'm not taking anything to influence my hormones. I'm not on any kind of medication , i eat healthy food regulary and I hit the gym 5-6 days /week . No depression . I was thinking to start a test prop cycle... what do you think ?

No.

You have naturally high test, you have many years of muscle building ahead of you.

 

[Victor30]

Your prolactin is on the higher end of the normal range, maybe bringing that down could help

*I was thinking the same about prolactin levels . I have some puffy nipples too . My e2 is way too low to be the cause of this . am i right ? I will talk with my doc today to see if he can give me some cabergoline . What's the connection between prolactin and dopamine ?

 

[Victor30]

Honestly this reminds me of myself.
My Endo asked if I was on steroids &#55357;&#56834;

I've always had a low libido, well after 18-20, around that time it dropped.

I build muscle quite easy tho, little effort with diet.

Unfortunately Drs are no help!
My DHEA was through the roof, Androgen level too.

Let me know how you go!!!

I agree with you , Drs are no help . How is your libido now ?

 

[bigdavid]

No.

You have naturally high test, you have many years of muscle building ahead of you.

Deff agree here.
OP you have test levels that basically are as ideal as they can be. I wouldn’t disrupt that anytime soon. And if your issues are really related to low libido that will not make things better for you. It will likely just start a cycle that leads to more problems, and your libido won’t go up. If anything it might even stay low or go lower...

though your prolactin isn’t super high I too had low libido on DAA and my prolactin was only slightly higher than yours is now. Once I stopped my prolactin went back down and was fine. So I think that could be a good thing to pursue.

 

[AdelV]

I agree with you , Drs are no help . How is your libido now ?

It ain't much better.

Probably my fault, I could eat more vegetables and do cardio. I think both would benefit me.

It goes up and down, I am stressed often. Drinking is a libido killer for me too, but the following morning I'm the opposite.

I noticed a few times when taking L-dopa it increased my libido. I'm unsure why?

I recently used bulk E.Cava and ALCAR and noticed a major difference.

I'm going to get bloods, but honestly my Dr sent me to an Endo and after than a Uro and no help at all. Because I look super fit, they basically do basic checks and say im OK.

Unfortunately supplementation isn't a permanent solution. I'm healthy, but I can pin point I don't eat enough variety and vegetables and I haven't done cardio for a long time. I'm sure there is plenty of unhealthy people with no libido issues tho! Human body hey, so complex. :/

 

[bigdavid]

I-dopa increases central dopamine levels. It also to some extent decreases prolactin but the strength of that decrease is not known to me.

 

[booneman77]

Deff agree here.
OP you have test levels that basically are as ideal as they can be. I wouldn’t disrupt that anytime soon. And if your issues are really related to low libido that will not make things better for you. It will likely just start a cycle that leads to more problems, and your libido won’t go up. If anything it might even stay low or go lower...

though your prolactin isn’t super high I too had low libido on DAA and my prolactin was only slightly higher than yours is now. Once I stopped my prolactin went back down and was fine. So I think that could be a good thing to pursue.

Third vote for no cycle. These guys nailed the reasoning.

As for the prolactin, it's worth discussing with your doc. I had high p after a cycle a few years back and it wrecked my libido as well.

Caber may be a bit much though but def talk to your doc. If he doesn't think that's the issue and won't treat anything, then you could look at an otc prolactin supp like Sns inhibit p which would give a slight reduction and wouldn't be as expensive or hard to get as legit caber. It also isn't nearly as strong so it wouldn't cause anything dramatic in terms of hormonal changes.

 

[Victor30]

I appreciate all your comments and support. I put my hands on some cabergoline today and I will take 0.5mg / twice a week ,see how it goes . I will keep posting here the results . What about high SHGB ? Could it be a cause for my low libido ? I noticed in the past that only drugs or meds that boost my dopamine levels work for my libido too .

 

[bigdavid]

I appreciate all your comments and support. I put my hands on some carbegoline today and I will take 0.5mg / twice a week ,see how it goes . I will keep posting here the results . What about high SHGB ? Could it be a cause for my low libido ? I noticed in the past that only drugs or meds that boost my dopamine levels work for my libido too .

No SHBG is only an issue when you have low free Test. You have high free Test so your levels of that transport protein are fine.

 

[NurseGray]

I appreciate all your comments and support. I put my hands on some carbegoline today and I will take 0.5mg / twice a week ,see how it goes . I will keep posting here the results . What about high SHGB ? Could it be a cause for my low libido ? I noticed in the past that only drugs or meds that boost my dopamine levels work for my libido too .

Good call. I was coming in for a third support of no cycle right now. Ride the wave man

 

[bigdavid]

Let us know in a few weeks if the caber helps. I’m interested to see if that level of prolactin (ie still in the “normal” range) could be causing your symptoms.

Of course caber likely is an agonist at more site than just the hypothalamus for prolactin decrease...but oh well lol.

 

[criticalbench]

If your sleep quality is not good, your libido is not going to be anything great because all your numbers, Test, Prolactin, Estrogen are all so tightly packed together.. there are not wide margens between them.

 

[Victor30]

Hi ! I'm using caber for almost two weeks . I felt very good in the first couple of days ( spontaneous erection , fantasies , more energy , reduced anxiety ,), but now I'm not feeling almost anything from it . I'll keep taking it and after I will do another blood work . I don't feel any side effects .
What should I do next if this is not the cause for my libido ? Should I try a clomid cycle or try to raise my e2 ? I really don't know what to do next
My sleep quality is good (8-9h/night) as my diet too .

 

[Victor30]

Anyone ?

 

[bigdavid]

I’m curious as to what your expectations are? And also what level are you at currently? If you were in the same room as a smoking hot chick (or guy, I don’t judge), would she be able to turn you on and would you be able to act on it? There are times I have thought my libido was going down, but in reality I just didn’t get in the mood unless I was with someone. Also, if you happen to watch porn, stop. That can desensitize you mentally and physically, so it will get more difficult to become aroused over time. Also, stop thinking about it lol. Half of the problems with libido and guys is honestly mental. You start to worry and then it spirals and becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Honestly I think doing any other hormonal manipulation would be foolish. Just give it more time and see if it’s just situational.

 

[celticthug]

Ummmm. It's in the mind... mostly. Unless you have a hormone issue. It doesn't seem to affect me with a lady. I'm cruising at about 400. I'm just plain horny. Maybe your expectations are to high? To be truthful. I can't expect every woman to be as honrny as me. This would be nullified if I'm cutting. Say trying to get to low body fat. At a certain point. Your body shuts down. Don't kid yourself. People weren't meant to walk around at 5% body fat. Otherwise you got a personal problem going bro! No offense!

 

[ericos_bob]

Good points it can be desensitizing for some blokes. I watch porn but it's never been a substitute for the real thing. There's one thing porn doesn't encompass and that is sense of smell and physical contact a real world women provides. Infact I have to go hands free for a second brb.

 

[Victor30]

I have no libido , no morning woods ... it's definitely not in the mind . My dick looks lifeless most of the time . I don't know which way to go next . Caber helped me on the first week , after made me very tired all the time . Could be low estrogen ? I heard that total test : e2 should be somewhere between 14-20. In my case it's 48.8 . I was not prone to gyno but I took a lot of ai after my first cycle . It is possible to have high amount of estrogen naturally and not being rebound yet ?

 

[ericos_bob]

How long ago was your last cycle incase I missed it?

Your numbers may not be perfect and you may recover naturally in time especially if your last cycle was recent (3-6 months ago)

I'm certain atleast in part this is an issue exacerbated mentally. You see, you're worrying about low libido which is totally understandable. That is the nature of psychological stress. It's also a reason trying a product regardless of whether it's sugar pills, caber or other can temporarily alleviate symptoms due to that lovely placebo effect. Also you mentioned you don't have morning wood. It's possible you're sleeping through it and it's happening earlier on. If your sleep schedule has changed that could be a cause. There's a pretty simple test you can try yourself here https://www.healthline.com/health/erection-self-test#uses2

 

[Victor30]

My last cycle was two years ago. I felt good even after the cycle, but after I started to take nolvadex and anastrozole(1mg/d) . My libido started to drop and my morning woods were gone and never coming back . How could I raise my e2 ?