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    Do pro BBers cycle?


    Or are they "on" just about all the time?

    Sorry if dumb question, yes I know they use but just curious how often.

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    I would like to know this question too. HGH takes a while for it to kick in so I could only guess that a big time pro bodybuilder like Jay Cutler probably takes HGH for a whole year and after the Olympia probably takes 2-3months off it. The test and whatever else they take is still a mystery to me

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    They definitely cruise.

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    they tend more to blast + cruise, plenty of them their cruise dose is in the 300-400mg a week range, which is more than twice a TRT dose.
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    there always on. Not much cycling

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    blast and cruz most likely.

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    Blasting and cruising. Not a stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteSoldier
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    natural as peanut butter.

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    Good question. They're obviously on, but it would be interesting to know if they cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    they tend more to blast + cruise, plenty of them their cruise dose is in the 300-400mg a week range, which is more than twice a TRT dose.
    Definitely this^^ Now the HGH and Slin use I have no clue how they play that card. Someday I would love to read a tell all by a pro.
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    yes and no
    They are always on but they cycle while they are on, with different compounds. Once in a while a few may come off after a show for a period of time to give their body a break from the harsh pre show prep then is back on.
    As for HGH and slin and what not they are incorporated in this cycles with same premise. What's important is the timing of all this compounds.

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    here is from the mouth(well fingertips really) of an ifbb pro on a different forum about the usage of drugs in pro bodybuilding.

    "So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!
    This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bul**** and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

    This is the truth:

    If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

    Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

    Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

    Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a **** load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

    BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

    And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

    Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
    they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.

    It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

    BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

    Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bull**** that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that."


    hopefully that clears up the answer to the question about pro's cycling. hope its legit, granted im pretty sure it all is.
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    There are 2 types of pros:
    1. one who have bad genetics and uses a ton of gear to make up for their deficiencies
    2. ones who have superior genetics who dont need a ton of gear to grow.

    Most pros have ****ty genetics and make up for it with a lot of gear..i know ppl who do just that always on something without rime or reason.
    Superior genetics ones are more rare and actually dont use a ton of **** because there is no need for that.
    THe more steroids you take wont get you much bigger after certain point. I've been in the game for a long time it doesnt work like that.

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    What site was he talking about?
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    What site was he talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille
    There are 2 types of pros:
    1. one who have bad genetics and uses a ton of gear to make up for their deficiencies
    2. ones who have superior genetics who dont need a ton of gear to grow.

    Most pros have ****ty genetics and make up for it with a lot of gear..i know ppl who do just that always on something without rime or reason.
    Superior genetics ones are more rare and actually dont use a ton of **** because there is no need for that.
    THe more steroids you take wont get you much bigger after certain point. I've been in the game for a long time it doesnt work like that.
    In my opinion I think a bodybuilder like Lee Priest is a #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    What site was he talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VS91588 View Post
    In my opinion I think a bodybuilder like Lee Priest is a #2
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    Flex and Levrone also comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VS91588 View Post
    In my opinion I think a bodybuilder like Lee Priest is a #2
    Yea, first guy I thought of as well. Unfortunately his chromosomes are so jacked full of muscle building dna that there wasn't space for an extra gene to make him taller.

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    Definitely think Phil Heath is a 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille
    There are 2 types of pros:
    1. one who have bad genetics and uses a ton of gear to make up for their deficiencies
    2. ones who have superior genetics who dont need a ton of gear to grow.

    Most pros have ****ty genetics and make up for it with a lot of gear..i know ppl who do just that always on something without rime or reason.
    Superior genetics ones are more rare and actually dont use a ton of **** because there is no need for that.
    THe more steroids you take wont get you much bigger after certain point. I've been in the game for a long time it doesnt work like that.
    Most pros have ****ty genetics? You are clueless. The pros are guys with crazy genetics and crazy amounts of gear - #2 is a complete myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupes

    Most pros have ****ty genetics? You are clueless. The pros are guys with crazy genetics and crazy amounts of gear - #2 is a complete myth.
    This can be true but the amount of gear that they take would probably kill the average gym rat or at least put him in the hospital.. I don't believe that I could handle all the things that they take. May be little by little as you cycle and the years progress you can add compounds but I don't think at the same dosages they take. I know a guy in my gym who is jacked huge, very freaky big and vascular but does not have the size that lets say Jay Cutler has and he takes over a gram of test and NPP, Tren, orals and HGH a week. I think he's nuts but oh well; whatever floats your boat I guess

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    The PROs are the guys blessed with the genetics, that is definitely true. To even get to that level you possess traits others can only hope for and try to get with more and more gear. As for how much gear the PROs use is anyones guess. I'm sure that it varies from one to the other just by the way each of them respond differently. I remember Dave Tate, I think it was, who talked about using gear. He was saying that if you are using all this stuff just to win a piss ant local show, then you might want to reconsider the idea of being able to make it much further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    Most pros have ****ty genetics? You are clueless. The pros are guys with crazy genetics and crazy amounts of gear - #2 is a complete myth.
    In todays time most pros have ****y genetics buddy that's why they abuse all kind of sutff. In arnold days they didnt take all that much stuff much of it wasnt even around. AND most of them took time off.
    THere are ppl around who very much said what they used to take and it was very little. By very little I mean 400mg of test 200mg deca a week and a few dbols a day. Dose doages now days is a joke with the big time body builders who take as much as few grams of gear in one cycle, 10-20iu HGH and who knows how much insulin maybe as much as 20-30ius a day. THat;s how a 5 10 gets to gets to 300lbs my friend get your fact straight..better yet do a cycle or two and test it for yourself.
    I dont mind a conv or ppl having their opinion but know your stuff.
    If you look at some pros all they look is like a big glab of muscle. That;s not bodybuilding... they have little definition or cuts and they look like baloons. That's a joke
    Here is an example...I have a pro in my gym. He got his pro card at 180lbs because he was shreded very little mass but he is short too. Now he competes at 212. He looks like ****. He is def doing a bunch of stuff to increase his weight but it doesnt work. He should have never been a pro he doesnt have the genetics for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    In todays time most pros have ****y genetics buddy that's why they abuse all kind of sutff. In arnold days they didnt take all that much stuff much of it wasnt even around. AND most of them took time off.
    The reason guys abuse so much stuff now a days is because they are competing with 70 lbs more muscle than Arnold! Arnold competed at 230 - Ronnie at 300 lbs! HUGE difference. Ronnie could compete with Arnold at 230 and reasonable cycles.

    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    Dose doages now days is a joke with the big time body builders who take as much as few grams of gear in one cycle, 10-20iu HGH and who knows how much insulin maybe as much as 20-30ius a day. THat;s how a 5 10 gets to gets to 300lbs my friend get your fact straight..better yet do a cycle or two and test it for yourself.
    I dont mind a conv or ppl having their opinion but know your stuff.
    No kidding - and if the elite guys in Arnold's day wanted to compete at 300 lbs then they would have to take the same crazy doses! Elite genes but lower gear dose equals 230lbs. - Elite genes with crazy doses equals 300 lbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    If you look at some pros all they look is like a big glab of muscle. That;s not bodybuilding... they have little definition or cuts and they look like baloons. That's a joke
    Here is an example...I have a pro in my gym. He got his pro card at 180lbs because he was shreded very little mass but he is short too. Now he competes at 212. He looks like ****. He is def doing a bunch of stuff to increase his weight but it doesnt work. He should have never been a pro he doesnt have the genetics for it.
    I don't like the pro look now either - but Phil Heath and Dexter Jackson are not balloons lol. Good example with some no name guy at your gym - that proves me wrong. Wow dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    The reason guys abuse so much stuff now a days is because they are competing with 70 lbs more muscle than Arnold! Arnold competed at 230 - Ronnie at 300 lbs! HUGE difference. Ronnie could compete with Arnold at 230 and reasonable cycles.



    No kidding - and if the elite guys in Arnold's day wanted to compete at 300 lbs then they would have to take the same crazy doses! Elite genes but lower gear dose equals 230lbs. - Elite genes with crazy doses equals 300 lbs.



    I don't like the pro look now either - but Phil Heath and Dexter Jackson are not balloons lol. Good example with some no name guy at your gym - that proves me wrong. Wow dude
    I dont want to give out his name out of respect. The guy does his best I suppose.
    As for phil heath he does have decent genetics and there are a handful of other ppl who do that's not what im arguing. I think levrone, flex arnold they had it too. What I argue is that a branch warren to me for example build his body through way to many drugs and so is kai green. I mean this guys look like they are pregnant and bloated even when they cut down.
    And as far as looking as balloons they look in shape only a few days outta the year and that's not even all of them, some look bloated on stage..from the GH and insulin.
    C'mon bro just let it go
    What they are doing is not sustainable nor pleasant to look at and you need to own a pharmacy to sustain the amounts of stuff they take!
    THat's not bodybuilding and is the reason bodybuilding is so far underground and outa of the main stream.

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    very much so

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668
    here is from the mouth(well fingertips really) of an ifbb pro on a different forum about the usage of drugs in pro bodybuilding.

    "So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!
    This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bul**** and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

    This is the truth:

    If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

    Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

    Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

    Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a **** load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

    BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

    And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

    Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
    they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.

    It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

    BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

    Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bull**** that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that."

    hopefully that clears up the answer to the question about pro's cycling. hope its legit, granted im pretty sure it all is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Is that for real?
    Yeah. Lee preist used to bulk to almost 300lbs if i remember the numbers correctly in the off season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    I dont want to give out his name out of respect. The guy does his best I suppose.
    As for phil heath he does have decent genetics and there are a handful of other ppl who do that's not what im arguing. I think levrone, flex arnold they had it too. What I argue is that a branch warren to me for example build his body through way to many drugs and so is kai green. I mean this guys look like they are pregnant and bloated even when they cut down.
    And as far as looking as balloons they look in shape only a few days outta the year and that's not even all of them, some look bloated on stage..from the GH and insulin.
    C'mon bro just let it go
    What they are doing is not sustainable nor pleasant to look at and you need to own a pharmacy to sustain the amounts of stuff they take!
    THat's not bodybuilding and is the reason bodybuilding is so far underground and outa of the main stream.
    I completely agree with 95% of this - BB is way underground because it's obvious to the normal person that these guys are on a ridiculous amount of drugs, the sheer size and retardedly low BF% along with GH gut - it is a freak show rather than a show of health and strength like it used to be 40 years ago.

    I am just saying that Branch Warren and Kai Greene and the other top pros have excellent genetics to along with ridiculous amounts of drugs, unfortunately. I don't like it, personally - and it's too bad that the guys have to do that to themselves in order to compete in the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    I completely agree with 95% of this - BB is way underground because it's obvious to the normal person that these guys are on a ridiculous amount of drugs, the sheer size and retardedly low BF% along with GH gut - it is a freak show rather than a show of health and strength like it used to be 40 years ago.

    I am just saying that Branch Warren and Kai Greene and the other top pros have excellent genetics to along with ridiculous amounts of drugs, unfortunately. I don't like it, personally - and it's too bad that the guys have to do that to themselves in order to compete in the sport.
    I wish Arnold now that he is out of politics would revive this sport and put some limits on comeptiton weights so it can be main stream again. If freakness is not rewarded ppl wont do it. I love bodybuilding been doing it for 20 years and like some of you said it's inherently a healthy sport untill money and drugs really destroyed it. I think bodybuilding should be focused on ppl who have great genetics instead of BBs who weigh 300lbs. Look at UFC. I think UFC took a street sport and put it on the map and bodybuilding can resurect itself the same way.
    If someone can do that the popularity would be off the chart. If eveyday people can look at pros and say to themselves you know if I gave it time and effort in the gym I could see if I can compete in this sport. In today's reality that's not even possible without puting your life in danger which is not an option even for ppl with great genetics.

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    My 21 yr old says he wants to compete and I have my fears with this.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    Why natural BBs are lucky if they can break 200lbs.
    Not necessarily true. I got to 200lbs naturally at a height of 5'8" before starting any PH's followed by injectable cycles

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