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    Do pro bodybuilders get lots of side effects ?


    I have heard Ronnie had heart, liver and kidney transplants. I have heardd Jay had some transplants as well !

    So do they really get huge side effects that we are not aware of ? We only see them on stage, healthy and rich but we don't know whats going on in their life

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    I can guarantee you they don't have any major organ transplants. There's no way they could have them and stay anywhere near top condition to compete.
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    Arnold supposedly has some enlarged heart problems.
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    I'm sure they get lots of side effects from juicing plus lots of injuries from lifting but not transplants... the 2 you mentioned are as big as a house.

    just look at Steve Jobs he had a liver transplant and still doesn't look healthy
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    Paging Andreas Munzer to the thread
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    Arnold had his heart surgery after competing. Ronnie has to have dialisis. Greg Kovacs developed Syndrome X. I wonder how these guys avoid acne, while some of us breakout on test boosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Arnold had his heart surgery after competing. Ronnie has to have dialisis. Greg Kovacs developed Syndrome X. I wonder how these guys avoid acne, while some of us breakout on test boosters.
    well man test boosters have that tribulus terristris in it which makes u break out hardcore. but studies say it doesnt even work lol. thats why i dont like to take them but it helps with the sexdrive
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    heard of this NZ bodybuilder who was on 60 minutes the other day. he developed heart problems from all the steriod abuse. doctor gave him one year to live
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Arnold had his heart surgery after competing. Ronnie has to have dialysis. Greg Kovacs developed Syndrome X. I wonder how these guys avoid acne, while some of us breakout on test boosters.
    arnolds surgery was the result of a defect since birth ..he in fact won a slander law suit against the National Enquirer as they said it was from roids ...

    Ronnie is not on Dialysis ..though Tom Prince is ...his was caused by using 32 Ibuprofen a day for 4 years ( hurt shoulders)
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    Quote Originally Posted by way8lifter View Post
    arnolds surgery was the result of a defect since birth ..he in fact won a slander law suit against the National Enquirer as they said it was from roids ...

    Ronnie is not on Dialysis ..though Tom Prince is ...his was caused by using 32 Ibuprofen a day for 4 years ( hurt shoulders)
    Fair enough. Ill give you the Arnold one.

    Ronnie however may not be on constant dialisis, but they did show him getting his blood replaced in one of the videos. I don't know if it's fro the roids, or the amount of protein he eats though. He also takes medication for his kidneys and cholesterol, but my dad is on cholesterol medication to so that might not even be roid related.
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    hmmmm theres many myths around these guys

    one of my frineds (older buddy) said he knew from a personal frined ronnie goes atleadt once a yr to europe for a blood transufion since the US insurance would not cover it due to it not being emergency need and the whole steroid factor.... . But in europe anything can be done if u have $$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Fair enough. Ill give you the Arnold one.

    Ronnie however may not be on constant dialisis, but they did show him getting his blood replaced in one of the videos. I don't know if it's fro the roids, or the amount of protein he eats though. He also takes medication for his kidneys and cholesterol, but my dad is on cholesterol medication to so that might not even be roid related.
    Which form of dialysis? Since you just mentioned blood, I'm going to assume hemodialysis, unless you were intending to talk about his kidneys. I can assure you Ronnie is not having peritoneal dialysis. As for hemo, hell I've had it done. It was for bone marrow donation, where instead of taking out my marrow, they removed my blood and returned it via dialysis with the goal to removing blood stem cells. Another use of dialysis for athletes is blood doping, EPO, etc. Just saying just because he was getting blood does not mean it's indicative of any one thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    I have heard Ronnie had heart, liver and kidney transplants. I have heardd Jay had some transplants as well !

    So do they really get huge side effects that we are not aware of ? We only see them on stage, healthy and rich but we don't know whats going on in their life
    Your joking right? This is just silly. Major organ transplants? Come on man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Just saying just because he was getting blood does not mean it's indicative of any one thing.
    Fair enough. Ill see if I can find the video to get to the bottom of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Fair enough. Ill see if I can find the video to get to the bottom of it.
    Did the video explain what he was doing? I'd be interested in seeing it for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Did the video explain what he was doing? I'd be interested in seeing it for sure.
    Nevermind, I'm a rumor starter! I remebered the chords, but forgot what he was actually doing. Nothing blood related here.

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    there is no way ronnie coleman is on dialysis, he would need a port in his arm for the dialysis(which would be visible with the low bf this guy carries). if he was having peritoneal dialysis he would also need some type of port, usually in the abdomen. if he had major organ transplants he would have a some big incisional scarring on his abdomen or lower back.
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    The only sides I can see happening are drug related, or perhaps kidney problems from too much protein but I hardly think it happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Diuretics.
    Do they make your heart grow to almost twice its normal size, which was the case with Andreas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpargelJanusz View Post
    Do they make your heart grow to almost twice its normal size, which was the case with Andreas?
    His official CoD was liver and kidney failure. His electrolytes were off with extremely high potassium (diretics), but he did not have a MI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moozkillzman View Post
    The only sides I can see happening are drug related, or perhaps kidney problems from too much protein but I hardly think it happens
    I think the drug related ones are what we are talking about. I don't know how Arnolds generation is doing because I don't really keep track of those guys, but I have a strong feeling the distended abdomen generation is gonna have some problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    I think the drug related ones are what we are talking about. I don't know how Arnolds generation is doing because I don't really keep track of those guys, but I have a strong feeling the distended abdomen generation is gonna have some problems.
    what the hell does that mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurdahUDawg View Post
    what the hell does that mean?
    I guess he means the HGH abuse of today's pros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpargelJanusz View Post
    I guess he means the HGH abuse of today's pros.
    he is 5'7'' 240, that sounds like a ****ing abuse to me lol ! either fat or steroid abuse
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    220 natural Mostly muscle but I do have a gut. Im not as lean as Id like to be, but Im lean enough enough to where I still catch girls who look as good as it gets in my city checking me out.

    Im just saying, I think a generation of body builders with large internal organs have some worrying to do.
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    partially on topic, have any of you guys seen "Bigger, Stronger Faster"? It's a documentary on roids, well done, and very very intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    partially on topic, have any of you guys seen "Bigger, Stronger Faster"? It's a documentary on roids, well done, and very very intriguing.
    Ya. It was a pretty good movie, but Im not sure if I believe that guy when he says he made the movie without bias. I reccomend the movie to everyone, but Ill also pouint out some flaws:

    1. When the side effects of roids are discussed, high estrogen wasn't even mentioned. Come on!

    2. It barely touched on oral steriods.

    3. These muscley guys kept talking about how they should have had the life of Arnold. Arnolds first handful of movies were all flops. He had a starlike charisma and unstoppable work ethic outside of bodybuilding that got him where he is. In fact, he was genetically gifted for it too. His personality, German coldness, and exotic accent made him what he is. Nobody whants to see Valentino blow **** up with his Jersey accent.

    4. They kept cutting to young Stallone whan talking about roids. He was 62 when he was caught with 2 antiageing medicines, and we still have no proof that young early Rocky was on anything.

    5. Their was this a section when it talked about steroids used in medicine, and it just sort of paved over the fact that just because something has medicinal purposes, dosen't neccasarily make it good for you.

    Im gonna make this a thread in general chat.
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    The idea of enlarged internal organs is somewhat debated among people. The distended bellies come from visceral fat and food intake. Overall it all depends on the person though. It's genetics. Visceral fat can be high with subcutaneous being low. It's all relative to the person.
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    checked out the video "Bigger, Stronger Faster" and its very intriguing
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