So I'm 16 days into my first run of Epi/Havoc and I can't say I've noticed much of anything yet -- though I realize it's still early. (I did have noticeably higher libido during week 1). I do have some tren tabs which I snagged not so long ago and was thinking of adding them for like a 3 week run (2 weeks Epi, 3 weeks Epi + tren).
I have never run tren before and am a little afraid because I hear how harsh it is. On the other hand, I like that it's non methylated and hair-safe. I already have on hand pharma grade prami, exemestane and clomid, and well as L-dopa for sides. People seem to like the Epi/Tren combo, but I am a bit hesitant.
BTW I'm 5' 11", 185, about ~12% body fat and looking to recomp (I really want abs!) I have 2 previous runs of H-drol and Dermacrine stacked.