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    Could I run SA alongside 11-oxo to avoid any chance of shutdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    Could I run SA alongside 11-oxo to avoid any chance of shutdown?

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    No, using Sustain Alpha is not going to prevent shutdown, but you can stack it with 11-oxo.

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    I thought people ran SA alongside some PHs to help avoid shutdown. Could you explain why it would not work in this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    I thought people ran SA alongside some PHs to help avoid shutdown. Could you explain why it would not work in this case?

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    The important thing you need to understand...when running any exogenous hormonal substance you are going to deal with shutdown. Now what you are talking about is using SA to help keep your libido strong and to help make PCT an easier transition. In essence, the theory is that by using SA you may possibly recover faster in PCT. Whether or not you do is dependent on the individual and cannot be verified by science. Does that make sense to you?

    Let me know if you have any further questions.

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    Yes, very well explained, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    I thought people ran SA alongside some PHs to help avoid shutdown. Could you explain why it would not work in this case?

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    Sean explained it.

    On top of that, you don't stack Sustain Alpha WITH hormonal products, but use it in the PCT for those products.

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    Plenty of ppl run Sustain on-cycle to help with libido issues and *hopefully* make a transition into PCT easier. Most don't run it the full 5 on 2 off though, more like 3 on 2 off or something closer to those lines.
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    I'll be trying this protocol in the near future, at this point it is based on user feedback.

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    For an OTC PCT, what do you think would be better?:

    Sustain and Erase for a month or TCF-1 24 days and Erase for a month? I am thinking Erase is a good replacement for 6-oxo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    For an OTC PCT, what do you think would be better?:

    Sustain and Erase for a month or TCF-1 24 days and Erase for a month? I am thinking Erase is a good replacement for 6-oxo...
    Actually for PCT I would run the SA and TCF-1 at the beginning of PCT and then add in ERASE at week 3 and run until bottle is empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Actually for PCT I would run the SA and TCF-1 at the beginning of PCT and then add in ERASE at week 3 and run until bottle is empty.
    Thanks... May I ask why?
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    how would sustain and phyto-test work together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by njlprec View Post
    how would sustain and phyto-test work together?
    They work great together actually. Phytotest is great stuff. If you run Toco-8 along with Phytotest and SA your balls will feel fully loaded . Additionally, Phytotest will certainly help in the strength department, but make sure you don't expect too much until after having run it for 3 weeks.

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