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  1.  01-30-2009  09:18 PM
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    What's the major difference between sustain alpha and Dermacrine


    As far as using either during or after a cycle which would be better during a cycle or during PCT and why?? Because they seem very similar to me.



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    Sustain Alpha is for PCT, Dermacrine is a DHEA+Preg compound that will boost your T levels and likely cause some suppression once the levels get up there, read about how it works here

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    Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Sustain Alpha is for PCT, Dermacrine is a DHEA+Preg compound that will boost your T levels and likely cause some suppression once the levels get up there, read about how it works here

    Good call

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    There are a few stacks i'd like you to check out here that contain write-ups and protocols for many of our products:

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    Would Dermacine be something you could use in a cycle with superdrol to make it a more comfortable cycle or is it something to be used on it's own??

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    Would Dermacine be something you could use in a cycle with superdrol to make it a more comfortable cycle or is it something to be used on it's own??
    Absolutely.

    It could be used with a superdrol cycle to mitigate some of the lethargy and libido loss effects, as well as provide a small amount of test base (produced through conversion) to enhance some of the libido issues. Results will vary with each user.

    It can also be used on its own for a cycle itself. It will provide many great benefits to performance using the dermacrine alone.

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    Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Absolutely.

    It could be used with a superdrol cycle to mitigate some of the lethargy and libido loss effects, as well as provide a small amount of test base (produced through conversion) to enhance some of the libido issues. Results will vary with each user.

    It can also be used on it's own for a cycle itself. It will provide many great benefits to performance using the dermacrine alone.
    Fantastic, and thank you for all the replies.

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    Fantastic, and thank you for all the replies.
    Anytime.

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    Good luck and let us know how the products turn out for you

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    Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Sustain Alpha is for PCT, Dermacrine is a DHEA+Preg compound that will boost your T levels and likely cause some suppression once the levels get up there, read about how it works here
    Does this mean that if you are shut off for any reason lets say PH's or precription drugs then Sustain can possibly restart your system?

    Does any other test booster have this effect or just Sustin??

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    Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Does this mean that if you are shut off for any reason lets say PH's or precription drugs then Sustain can possibly restart your system?

    Does any other test booster have this effect or just Sustin??
    That's actually something Eric is looking at; Sustain Alpha might be able to minimize/negate the shutdown experienced while on cycle; he had testers draw bloodwork while on cycle with FSH/LH detectable (THey should be suppressed to 0) but he's still gathering data.

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    Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Does this mean that if you are shut off for any reason lets say PH's or precription drugs then Sustain can possibly restart your system?

    Does any other test booster have this effect or just Sustin??
    We have a thread aimed at this exact purpose. In theory, the 7,8 Benzoflavone contained in Sustain Alpha can help to mitigate shutdown while on cycle (we have a protocol outlined for that), and even enhance HPTA upregulation during the PCT period. We're now in the process of gathering tester data for a better demonstration at this time. I'll link up the thread here in a second.

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    Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Sustain Alpha is for PCT, Dermacrine is a DHEA+Preg compound that will boost your T levels and likely cause some suppression once the levels get up there, read about how it works here
    Steveoph which would do a better job improving Libido??

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    Steveoph which would do a better job improving Libido??
    Both will have an effect on libido, however there is a difference. Dermacrine is hormonal through conversion done in our body, so supression may result in some instances, especially with high doses or prolonged use. Dhea is often added into cycles for libido support. This is achieved by adding a little extra test base, as well as a small amount of estrogen; both of which are needed to sustain libido.

    Sustain Alpha utilizes a completely different MOA in achieving this effect. It enables the body to increase natural testosterone production though a few different pathways, neither of which are suppressive to our own hormonal equilibrium.

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