- 03-26-2008, 10:34 PM
- 03-26-2008, 11:04 PM
im not on a vegan diet yet, but was considering it if i could still make strength gains. its mostly b/c my wife may want to do it, and i want to support her. this all came about by her reading "Skinny *****", which i also read.the part about the animal butchering is really eye opening.
- 03-26-2008, 11:09 PM
03-26-2008, 11:33 PM
Vegan can't have any animal products. No eggs or milk. It's way too strict. I'd never do it. You'll have to supplement your diet with so much soy. Animals are too tasty. I don't think they should have to suffer, but even if animals were tortured from the day they were born i'd still eat meat. YUMMY
03-27-2008, 04:46 PM
03-27-2008, 05:10 PM
If you are concerned about how animals are treated there are plenty of sources where you can buy animals that lived good lives. These places usually just allow their animals to eat naturally, and don't pump them full of hormones. Its a little more expensive than getting your meat from the grocery, but definately a good choice.
03-27-2008, 07:39 PM
03-27-2008, 08:19 PM
yeah, i didnt mean a vegan diet, but maybe vegetarian. i with you that meat is to tasty to give up, so id still probobly eat my delicious steaks. i guess what i am talking about here is just cleaning up my diet, mostly veggies/fruits and mabye switching from milk to soy.
03-28-2008, 07:59 PM
04-07-2008, 03:53 AM
Skinny Bish is definitely a good read.
I remember reading a study regarding lifespans and diets. The article concluded that vegetarians have the longest lifespans, being preceded in death by meat-eaters. Interestingly enough, though, the article found that vegans have the shortest lifespans of all.
04-10-2008, 12:37 PM
04-10-2008, 11:27 PM
I honestly don't think a vegan could make very good gains unless he had tons of money and could buy things like isopure, and could stand soy and eating tons of peanuts and whatnot. And even then, a little too strict IMO.
04-11-2008, 05:51 PM
I dont think vegans could make very good gains at all. Meat, Eggs, Cheese, Milk are part of being a powerlifter. Name me one powerlifting that doesn't engorge on large amounts. If you can name one they're probably no good. sorry but its the truth. MArk
04-11-2008, 08:01 PM
There are definitely gains to be made as a vegan powerlifter. One of the guys on the vegan fitness board is totaling over 1,500 lbs at 242 lbs. body weight.
04-11-2008, 08:05 PM
Mac Danzig (MMA Fighter) is a vegan and he looks pretty good.
I love animals but can't give up eating them, so I eat free range eggs, chicken, and grassfed beef (from local farm)
04-11-2008, 10:21 PM
yeah, i cant live without meat. im just gonna clean up my diet and try to get better quality meat when i can. i love veggies and their easy to cook. meat is still number one. anyways, since i started eating a 2lb steak on my workout days before bed, my strength has exploded.
04-12-2008, 09:31 AM
"1,500 lbs at 242 lbs." So thats what guys are totaling with soy protein, and vegetables. Let me show you what the guys eating animals buy the truck load, and drinking beer by the barrel are totaling. Greg Panora 242 World Record total holder of 2600 with a 1,050 squat, 750 bench, and 800 pound deadlift. See meat does make a difference.
04-15-2008, 12:16 AM
The consumption of meat may make a significant difference in weights lifted, but that in no way detracts from the success of those vegan powerlifters. A 1,500 pound total is more than respectable.
04-17-2008, 06:28 PM
Isn't that a contradiction of terms...vegan powerlifter ?
I mean most have trouble carrying a Moby CD around.
But seriously, the vegans I do know play Xbox and campaign for Obama. The last thing on their minds is deadlifting.
I'm just sayin'
04-17-2008, 06:36 PM
i do think 1195 is a respectable total. i found out in 04' i had a testosterone level of 190(scale 250-1100). just over a year i have been stable and finally starting to make gains. im hoping for 500 dead and squat by end of year and a 400 bench as well.
04-18-2008, 07:23 AM
I am not 100% sure on this but I am sure someone else with more knowledge could help. But I believe with calorie restriction, and low fat diets testerone goes down. Also with all the heavy trainng your doing, you tear your body down, put stress on it, and lower trace amounts of vitamins that your body needs to function. Bottom line you need to eat meat, its stupid not to, if you want to be a healthy male. I was more or less joking with you about my second post. A 1200 total is a solid total. If you work hard and add meat. Im confident youll see your total rise before your eyes. Best of luck to you. Mark
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