Deadlift form check

  1. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Deadlift form check


    The form is not great. My hips are the first to shoot up. I'm still very new to the powerlifting game, been around lifting for quite awhile.
    As reference, I am the artist formerly known as bnatural.


    Contemplating moving to sumo, this is conventional.
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com

  2. Senior Member
    PaulBlack's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,816
    Rep Power
    115628
    Level
    38
    Lv. Percent
    48.35%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    It did not look terrible but, yeah the hips move a bit first, which can put the hips farther away or back some from the bar which can also hinder *******.
    If you keep the hips down and the bar moves first, you drive the heels into floor, drive hips forward while driving the shoulders up and back in all one fluid motion.
    Hard to tell from that angle how close you are to the bar, or where the bar is in relation to your shoes. The closer ones gets to the bar, without hindering at the start, the better you stay to the center of the body's gravity and better leverages.
    If the hips come up, it can have you rounding the back or not staying super tight, which also makes ******* tougher.
    Your head could be a bit more neutral perhaps. Looking out at the floor about 10' or 15' in front of you.

    IMO, drill lighter weights cementing the form in (not so light that you are not working hard sets of x5's can work fine) and practicing the proper step by step execution from breaking the weight off the floor to *******, whilst getting the reps/work in.
    Overtime your entire pos chain will strengthen as you slowly move into heavier and heavier weights.

    As far as sumo!? You can certainly do both for a bit and see which one is best. Usually sumo, is more advantageous for longer waisted, perhaps shorter legged guys, since the lever from the shoulders to hip hinge is longer, so pulling in a more upright position, makes that lever shorter or easier to manage.
  3. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBlack View Post
    It did not look terrible but, yeah the hips move a bit first, which can put the hips farther away or back some from the bar which can also hinder *******.
    If you keep the hips down and the bar moves first, you drive the heels into floor, drive hips forward while driving the shoulders up and back in all one fluid motion.
    Hard to tell from that angle how close you are to the bar, or where the bar is in relation to your shoes. The closer ones gets to the bar, without hindering at the start, the better you stay to the center of the body's gravity and better leverages.
    If the hips come up, it can have you rounding the back or not staying super tight, which also makes ******* tougher.
    Your head could be a bit more neutral perhaps. Looking out at the floor about 10' or 15' in front of you.

    IMO, drill lighter weights cementing the form in (not so light that you are not working hard sets of x5's can work fine) and practicing the proper step by step execution from breaking the weight off the floor to *******, whilst getting the reps/work in.
    Overtime your entire pos chain will strengthen as you slowly move into heavier and heavier weights.

    As far as sumo!? You can certainly do both for a bit and see which one is best. Usually sumo, is more advantageous for longer waisted, perhaps shorter legged guys, since the lever from the shoulders to hip hinge is longer, so pulling in a more upright position, makes that lever shorter or easier to manage.
    appreciate the insight and will put to good use.
    need to keep the cue of "snap the neck" in my head along with a few others.

    I do have a long torso and short legs, however I originally like the feel of conventional, it felt like more of a lift.
    From a powerlifting standpoint it has not created the shortest distance between A and B while remaining powerful though.
    Definitely will be utilizing both to see which I can nail down better.

    thanks again!
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
    •   
       

  4. Senior Member
    PaulBlack's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,816
    Rep Power
    115628
    Level
    38
    Lv. Percent
    48.35%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Lifting_Dad View Post
    need to keep ain!the cue of "snap the neck" in my head along with a few others.
    I don't think I am familiar with that one^.
    I have heard "pack the neck or the chin" but not snap it!?
  5. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBlack View Post
    I don't think I am familiar with that one^.
    I have heard "pack the neck or the chin" but not snap it!?
    Essentially pulling the chin into the neck, most likely the same cue you referred to, just different name.
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
  6. Elite Member
    Piston Honda's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    5,335
    Rep Power
    8589121
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    64.3%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranPosting Pro

    Sink those hips a bit before you start your motion. Then fire into the bar
    BOARD TYRANT
  7. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Sink those hips a bit before you start your motion. Then fire into the bar
    noted.
    definitely looking to perfect form asap.
    I have my first meet in 2 weeks. It's a very local meet, so I'm focusing on getting my feet wet with this meet.
    I decided to do powerlifting after my recent physique contest (weird, right?) and once I set my mind on something I pretty much have to do it. Otherwise, I'd hold off.
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
  8. Elite Member
    Piston Honda's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    5,335
    Rep Power
    8589121
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    64.3%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranPosting Pro

    Good luck to you!
    BOARD TYRANT
  9. Senior Member
    PaulBlack's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,816
    Rep Power
    115628
    Level
    38
    Lv. Percent
    48.35%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Lifting_Dad View Post

    I do have a long torso and short legs, however I originally like the feel of conventional, it felt like more of a lift.
    From a powerlifting standpoint it has not created the shortest distance between A and B while remaining powerful though.
    Definitely will be utilizing both to see which I can nail down better.
    I am pretty much exclusively a conventional puller and built for it, if nothing else.
    I am not a sumologist but Sean, Rodja, Herderdude (to name a few) know a few things about where the hips et al need to be with that kind of pulling.

    All the best at your meet...!
  10. Senior Member
    asooneyeonig's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Age
    40
    Posts
    1,253
    Rep Power
    106510
    Level
    30
    Lv. Percent
    32.13%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    hips coming up at the start IMO means your quads are not strong enough. your body is going with the path of least resistance, or in this case what is strongest, which is not your quads here.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.
  11. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    hips coming up at the start IMO means your quads are not strong enough. your body is going with the path of least resistance, or in this case what is strongest, which is not your quads here.
    It explains why I struggle with squats out of the hole though
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
  12. Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,745
    Rep Power
    1317333
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    29.96%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting Pro

    You need to get another video to where shin angle can be seen. It could be that the bar is too far ahead of you. What shoes are you wearing?
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
    Performax Labs Product Specialist

  13. Elite Member
    Piston Honda's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    5,335
    Rep Power
    8589121
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    64.3%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranPosting Pro

    First pic: you're starting to come up. Hips are in line with elbows and not lower; head already coming up before the body or the bar.
    Name:  image.jpg
Views: 76
Size:  54.9 KB

    Second pic: hips almost seem to go up and back, ; notice your head position also. Seems to be mostly upper body and a lot of straining.

    Name:  image.jpg
Views: 76
Size:  55.6 KB
  14. Elite Member
    Piston Honda's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    5,335
    Rep Power
    8589121
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    64.3%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You need to get another video to where shin angle can be seen. It could be that the bar is too far ahead of you.
    I concur
    BOARD TYRANT
  15. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You need to get another video to where shin angle can be seen. It could be that the bar is too far ahead of you. What shoes are you wearing?
    Off brand converse style shoes. Flat. Very little sole.
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
  16. Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,745
    Rep Power
    1317333
    Level
    94
    Lv. Percent
    29.96%
    Achievements Activity RoyaltyActivity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Lifting_Dad View Post
    Off brand converse style shoes. Flat. Very little sole.
    Ok, you have that base covered. Let's get that shin angle video when you get a chance.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
    Performax Labs Product Specialist

  17. New Member
    Lifting_Dad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Age
    31
    Posts
    77
    Rep Power
    4345
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.18%

    new video/new day:
    The journey of balancing a healthy lifestyle as a father & a husband. - LiftingDad.com
  18. Advanced Member
    usealittle's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    627
    Rep Power
    17962
    Level
    20
    Lv. Percent
    68.81%

    I don't think it looks too bad... Only thing I can really tell from that angle is that your open hand your left arm you're keeping it slightly bent you want to make sure that arm is 100% straight because that's the easiest way to turn that bicep right off the bone.

    I'd like to see another video from a little further away so we can see what your back is doing during the motion because from down there I can only really tell about waist down what's going on.
  19. Advanced Member
    usealittle's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    627
    Rep Power
    17962
    Level
    20
    Lv. Percent
    68.81%

    In my opinion the difference between you running sumo and conventional would be which is stronger. Your legs and hips or your back? If its You're back then conventional is more of the way to go. Like I said a video of your full body would help out immensely.
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Deadlift Form Check Video
    By JesseSands in forum Powerlifting/Strongman
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-09-2014, 05:37 PM
  2. Squat/Deadlift Form Check
    By deadliftz in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-11-2013, 12:40 PM
  3. Another deadlift form check video
    By CaptnCaveman in forum Powerlifting/Strongman
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 08-04-2013, 05:07 PM
  4. Deadlift form check
    By Bcuzimbatman in forum Powerlifting/Strongman
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-01-2013, 09:54 AM
  5. Deadlift form check
    By DerickVonD in forum Training Forum
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 10-24-2012, 05:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in