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# Wendler's Beyond 5/3/1

1. Originally Posted by Swanson52
I just don't understand the percentages. How can my last set be 110% of my ACTUAL max? Yo no comprende.
I have not read it yet, but could it be, Jim is having you start the maxes again at a lower % under your actual max?

2. Originally Posted by PaulBlack
I have not read it yet, but could it be, Jim is having you start the maxes again at a lower % under your actual max?
He has the training max at 85-90%, but if my actual max is 500, that puts my TM @ 425. However, in one scenario he calls for a joker set of 125% of TM, which is 531#. So on week 3 he expects a 31# PR? It just doesn't add up. Here's another example (c/p from ebook)

For example, lets say that you have a 400 pound training max for the bench press, your workout would look like this (TM = 400):
Base Workout
 Bar x 10 reps
 120x5reps
 160x5reps
 200x3reps
 240x3reps
 280x1rep
 320x1rep
 360x1rep
 400x6reps
Joker Sets
 420x1rep
 440x1rep
 460x1rep

So I'm supposed to be able to hit my TM for 6 reps? And in this scenario, the actual max might be 440-450. In w1 of 531 I'm prescribed to get a 10-20# PR?

Confused, I am.

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3. You might be focusing too much on the percentage. I haven't gotten too far into it yet, but I could've sworn he says to use your actual Max and go for a rep PR in the beginning when talking about joker sets.

4. Originally Posted by jimbuick
You might be focusing too much on the percentage. I haven't gotten too far into it yet, but I could've sworn he says to use your actual Max and go for a rep PR in the beginning when talking about joker sets.
I think you're right. From p32

"Joker sets are simple  after you push the last set (always push that last set for a PR, no matter what), increase 5% or 10% from the last set and perform 5 reps, 3 reps or 1 rep (depending on the week). Keep increasing 5% or 10% until you feel that you cannot make the requisite reps. Once you cannot get the reps, you are free to keep adding 10% jumps for singles. This is up to you and how you feel on that day."

Makes more sense.

5. I like his new program outline that deviates from the whole 5/3/1 aspect a bit. Joker sets and first set last down sets included of course

6. Originally Posted by Swanson52
I'm an information whore. I have probably 30 assorted training-related ebooks. My hard copy library is pretty formidable as well.

However, sometimes too much info can be a bad thing...training confusion from overload might be worse than lack of knowledge and just lifting til you're tired.

Know what I'm sayin?
Ummm we should talk..

7. Originally Posted by JudoJosh
Ummm we should talk..
Do you info whore as well?

8. Originally Posted by Swanson52
Do you info whore as well?

9. Originally Posted by Swanson52

He has the training max at 85-90%, but if my actual max is 500, that puts my TM @ 425. However, in one scenario he calls for a joker set of 125% of TM, which is 531#. So on week 3 he expects a 31# PR? It just doesn't add up. Here's another example (c/p from ebook)

For example, lets say that you have a 400 pound training max for the bench press, your workout would look like this (TM = 400):
Base Workout
 Bar x 10 reps
 120x5reps
 160x5reps
 200x3reps
 240x3reps
 280x1rep
 320x1rep
 360x1rep
 400x6reps
Joker Sets
 420x1rep
 440x1rep
 460x1rep

So I'm supposed to be able to hit my TM for 6 reps? And in this scenario, the actual max might be 440-450. In w1 of 531 I'm prescribed to get a 10-20# PR?

Confused, I am.
You better get super strong...

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