Weighted vest

[dillianc]

Hey,

Do any of you use weighted vests? What are some benefits for sprinting?

[ashirov21]

Hey,

Do any of you use weighted vests? What are some benefits for sprinting?

They are terrific for abs and strengthening your whole body

[usealittle]

i thought this was the PL section?..... sense when does a PLr sprint?

[asooneyeonig]

i thought this was the PL section?..... sense when does a PLr sprint?

conditioning and working on increased force development via speed workouts.

[Rodja]

i thought this was the PL section?..... sense when does a PLr sprint?

All the time (e.g. Prowler pushes, sled drags, etc.).

[toddgranit]

Yes,
I have been using a Mir vest with 75 pounds of weight for over a year.
Great workout tool.
Peace

[usealittle]

conditioning and working on increased force development via speed workouts.

i understand that but do you sprint? i dont know any PLrs that sprint.

[usealittle]

All the time (e.g. Prowler pushes, sled drags, etc.).

me and the guys i workout with have set many many records and none of us have ever done sprints, prowler pushes or sled drags..... i take that back, 1 guys does but hes not strong. i weight 40+lbs less and kill him on every lift.

not being combative just sayin.....

[Rodja]

me and the guys i workout with have set many many records and none of us have ever done sprints, prowler pushes or sled drags..... i take that back, 1 guys does but hes not strong. i weight 40+lbs less and kill him on every lift.

not being combative just sayin.....

Louie's opinion on the topic >>>> yours

[usealittle]

louie..... F that guy. hes not westside barbell...... he just stole the name from my coach joe de' marco and 2 others. if you guys look the OG westside you will see louie was not there.

you take all the Qs you want from a old man thats brokin his back twice... ill stick with the one that 83 and still benchs 275 for reps, natty.




again not lookin to start s#!t, just stating my opinion......

[Rodja]

louie..... F that guy. hes not westside barbell...... he just stole the name from my coach joe de' marco and 2 others. if you guys look the OG westside you will see louie was not there.

you take all the Qs you want from a old man thats brokin his back twice... ill stick with the one that 83 and still benchs 275 for reps, natty.




again not lookin to start s#!t, just stating my opinion......

Louie doesn't claim that he started the original Westside in CA as you're implying. In case you need a lesson in history, Louie switched to conjugate training after he broke his back the second time and was willing to adapt to new methods, which is a quality that everyone should have and one that you seem to lack. Also, if incurring training injuries is enough of a reason to not take someone's advice, then there isn't a single person that that would be a viable coach in PL'ing.

[asooneyeonig]

i understand that but do you sprint? i dont know any PLrs that sprint.

i currently dont. several of my training partners did this year. we are not all exclusively powerlifters though. our gym also includes highland games and strongman competitors. we do all believe in a balanced body to help minimize injuries.

it is our opinion that in the short term you can focus on anything to up your 3 lifts and make great gains but at the expense of long term injury prevention and overall health. our oldest competitor is 48 and a large part of his training is injury prevention. he is going to be hitting his 30th year of lifting pretty soon. and yes, he does some sprinting even at his bodyweight of 325.

you sure dont have to sprint as a powerlifter or any type of strength competitor. and we all dont do it year round. we cycle it for parts of the year.

[usealittle]

Louie doesn't claim that he started the original Westside in CA as you're implying. In case you need a lesson in history, Louie switched to conjugate training after he broke his back the second time and was willing to adapt to new methods, which is a quality that everyone should have and one that you seem to lack. Also, if incurring training injuries is enough of a reason to not take someone's advice, then there isn't a single person that that would be a viable coach in PL'ing.

i never said he did... i said he took the name and made it his own, never said he acts like he started it. the reason he broke his back is his poor box squating. he used to drop onto the box, thats why he broke it. now he used a soft pad on the box to slow his desenton to the box. instead of a controlled descent witch is how it should be done. and yes we all get hurt trying to do more... but getting hurt when doin movements wrong is your fault not the weight,and is stupid.

look man everyone dose there own thing... when im PLn i never do more then 5reps unless its a very light weight. witch is not enought to get my heart rate up. so no i dont do any type of cardio either. others like you do, and maybe it works for you but i dont do it so that was my question. if you read the question it was not combative or bustin balls! i said "sense when do PLrs sprint?" and "i dont know any PLrs that do" that was me askin a question. only when you brought up louie did i start talkin s#!t.... everything i said up till louie was questions.

[usealittle]

i currently dont. several of my training partners did this year. we are not all exclusively powerlifters though. our gym also includes highland games and strongman competitors. we do all believe in a balanced body to help minimize injuries.

it is our opinion that in the short term you can focus on anything to up your 3 lifts and make great gains but at the expense of long term injury prevention and overall health. our oldest competitor is 48 and a large part of his training is injury prevention. he is going to be hitting his 30th year of lifting pretty soon. and yes, he does some sprinting even at his bodyweight of 325.

you sure dont have to sprint as a powerlifter or any type of strength competitor. and we all dont do it year round. we cycle it for parts of the year.

this is what i was gettin at.

[Rodja]

i never said he did... i said he took the name and made it his own, never said he acts like he started it. the reason he broke his back is his poor box squating. he used to drop onto the box, thats why he broke it. now he used a soft pad on the box to slow his desenton to the box. instead of a controlled descent witch is how it should be done. and yes we all get hurt trying to do more... but getting hurt when doin movements wrong is your fault not the weight,and is stupid.

look man everyone dose there own thing... when im PLn i never do more then 5reps unless its a very light weight. witch is not enought to get my heart rate up. so no i dont do any type of cardio either. others like you do, and maybe it works for you but i dont do it so that was my question. if you read the question it was not combative or bustin balls! i said "sense when do PLrs sprint?" and "i dont know any PLrs that do" that was me askin a question. only when you brought up louie did i start talkin s#!t.... everything i said up till louie was questions.

Your post tone was edging closer towards hostile that inquisitive as you came off as though it is stupid for a PL'er to sprint, which is far from true. You can have your personal opinion of Louie, but the fact remains that he is a far greater source of knowledge than you or I and his philosophy has proven correct time and time again. A sled drag and Prowler push are the same as sprints, but with different equipment to shift emphasis on the load within the muscles. The purpose for them is to increase work capacity as most PL'ers are in terrible CV shape since they neglect any form of cardio and implementing some for non-eccentric, anaerobic activity helps to not only improve the aforementioned work capacity, but also improves recovery and improves enzymatic response to training that help to repartition nutrients towards muscle and increase contractile proteins.

[usealittle]

^^^ your points are valid, but like i said before.... i only know 1 guy tthat does prowler pushs and he is NOT a strong guy. my total is close to 250lbs more then him and hes 40+lbs more then me. so sleds and pushes will not be part of my workouts.

[Rodja]

^^^ your points are valid, but like i said before.... i only know 1 guy tthat does prowler pushs and he is NOT a strong guy. my total is close to 250lbs more then him and hes 40+lbs more then me. so sleds and pushes will not be part of my workouts.

That's wonderful logic right there.

[asooneyeonig]

^^^ your points are valid, but like i said before.... i only know 1 guy tthat does prowler pushs and he is NOT a strong guy. my total is close to 250lbs more then him and hes 40+lbs more then me. so sleds and pushes will not be part of my workouts.

i will use your logic, jim wendler, dave tate, and many others from elite do prowler pushes. and i bet they total more then you.

so who is right here, the one with the highest total or the one with the greatest knowledge?

my vote goes for knowledge.

[usealittle]

That's wonderful logic right there.

EDIT....... you 2 guys just want to have a pissing contest. im done with you 2, read me posts and understand what i said. there is no inflection in words, you read it how you want to see it.

[usealittle]

i will use your logic, jim wendler, dave tate, and many others from elite do prowler pushes. and i bet they total more then you.

so who is right here, the one with the highest total or the one with the greatest knowledge?

my vote goes for knowledge.

EDIT.....