+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 18 of 18

deadlift stance????

  1.  05-19-2010  05:31 PM
    Registered User stullsy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Stats
    5'11"  215 lbs.
    Location
    McClure
    Age
    27
    Posts
    292
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    197

    deadlift stance????


    I just wanted to know what stance people can pull the most weight in.................... Hip Width, Shoulder Width or Sumo.. I can pull more at shoulder width, but someone told me to start pulling at hip width b/c you can pull more weight but I pull about 30 or 40 lbs less and my sumo deadlift sucks



  2.  05-19-2010  05:54 PM
    Registered User pmiller383's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Stats
    5'10"  235 lbs.
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    26
    Posts
    4,008
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    2654

    A good way to find your best foot position is to jump up and land naturally. Where your feet land will be a good starting point to where you are the strongest for a conventional pull. I personally pull with my feet a hair outside of hip width but well inside of my shoulder width because it allows my arms to hang straight down.

    •   


        
       

  3.  05-19-2010  05:58 PM
    Registered User brownstown89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Stats
    5'10"  170 lbs.
    Posts
    2,029
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1076

    Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    A good way to find your best foot position is to jump up and land naturally. Where your feet land will be a good starting point to where you are the strongest for a conventional pull. I personally pull with my feet a hair outside of hip width but well inside of my shoulder width because it allows my arms to hang straight down.
    damn but now hes gonna know how he wants to land lol, i tried jumping to touch the rim and came down, the exact position (feet wise) that i deadlift with. I have shorter arms so hip width and arms a lil wider then straight down does it for me. Ive tried doing arms staright down and closer stance but its too much lower back for me.. but good advice..

    also do u do good mornings the same stance as your deadlift and or squat?

  4.  05-19-2010  06:08 PM
    Registered User stullsy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Stats
    5'11"  215 lbs.
    Location
    McClure
    Age
    27
    Posts
    292
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    197

    Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    A good way to find your best foot position is to jump up and land naturally. Where your feet land will be a good starting point to where you are the strongest for a conventional pull. I personally pull with my feet a hair outside of hip width but well inside of my shoulder width because it allows my arms to hang straight down.
    I'll have to try that. That might be where I pull my strongest as well, I use to walk up to the bar and flex my quads then rock back and forth to find an even space with my feet under the bar, I figured the stance at where my quads where tightest in extension is where I would get the best lockout strength, but if my deadlift was failing at the start of the lift I would pull off of a platform or now Im thinking a closer stance might help that as well as it would increase the ROM, right???

  5.  05-19-2010  06:10 PM
    Registered User stullsy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Stats
    5'11"  215 lbs.
    Location
    McClure
    Age
    27
    Posts
    292
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    197

    Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    damn but now hes gonna know how he wants to land lol, i tried jumping to touch the rim and came down, the exact position (feet wise) that i deadlift with. I have shorter arms so hip width and arms a lil wider then straight down does it for me. Ive tried doing arms staright down and closer stance but its too much lower back for me.. but good advice..

    also do u do good mornings the same stance as your deadlift and or squat?
    I just started varying my stance on good mornings, but yeah I use to do them about shoulder width or maybe a little bit wider than hip width

  6.  05-19-2010  08:08 PM
    Registered User pmiller383's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Stats
    5'10"  235 lbs.
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    26
    Posts
    4,008
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    2654

    I use a ton of different stances for good mornings, it just depends on what areas you want to emphasize. As a general rule of thumb though, Arched back = Wider Stance, Rounded Back = Closer Stance.

  7.  05-19-2010  08:20 PM
    Registered User forsure's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    49
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    63

    i use my power clean form, feed shoulder width, olypic grip on bar.

  8.  05-19-2010  11:20 PM
    Registered User brownstown89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Stats
    5'10"  170 lbs.
    Posts
    2,029
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1076

    Originally Posted by stullsy View Post
    I just started varying my stance on good mornings, but yeah I use to do them about shoulder width or maybe a little bit wider than hip width
    me too, If i feel like my hamstrings are weak ill try to keep my legs straight, if i feel like im weak off the ground deadlifting ill do close stance. If my squats struggling ill do moderate stance lol...

    I was thinking of doing my weakest position but idk

  9.  06-29-2010  08:04 AM
    Registered User urbanski's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Stats
    5'7"  197 lbs.
    Location
    Deep South
    Posts
    1,204
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1496

    how about rack pull stance?
    i'm changing to sumo from conventional and use RPs as a supplemental....had been doing them hip-width...so do i do them sumo width now? thanks

  10.  06-29-2010  08:36 AM
    Registered User Inarius's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Stats
    6'2"  250 lbs.
    Posts
    5,399
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    17434

    Originally Posted by urbanski View Post
    how about rack pull stance?
    i'm changing to sumo from conventional and use RPs as a supplemental....had been doing them hip-width...so do i do them sumo width now? thanks
    No, I just switched up as well and every sumo deadlifter I know still does rack pulls conventionally so that is how I would do it.
    SFW and GFH

  11.  06-30-2010  08:27 PM
    Registered User SRS2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Stats
    6'1"  260 lbs.
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    515
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    314

    There's not much different between a hip-width and shoulder-width stance unless you have some really strange proportions. A starting point is to take the stance you would use if you had to do a standing broad jump. Alot of people have terrible landing mechanics, so I wouldn't necessarily trust your landing stance as ideal. The only way to know for sure is to simply experiment a bit and figure the starting position wher you are the strongest.
    For the question regarding a sumo stance and rack pulls, I've never seen anyone who had much luck with rack pulls helping a sumo DL. The problem is that the sticking point in the sumo DL is off the floor about 99% of the time, so rack pulls don't help that much. Simply doing moderate sets of 3-5 reps in the sumo DL is probably the best assistance exercise for it. You could also try box squats with a sumo-width stance or chain suspended squats with the starting position similar to your sumo DL starting point. If you want to do rack pulls as an assistance exercise for general overall strength, just use a conventional stance and start them somewhere around mid-shin.

  12.  07-01-2010  10:24 PM
    Registered User brownstown89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Stats
    5'10"  170 lbs.
    Posts
    2,029
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1076

    i never do sumo i have pulled a couple workouts sumo just to see how strong i am at it.. It almost feels like powering out the bottom of a squat? is that accurate

  13.  07-02-2010  12:40 PM
    Registered User SRS2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Stats
    6'1"  260 lbs.
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    515
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    314

    Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    i never do sumo i have pulled a couple workouts sumo just to see how strong i am at it.. It almost feels like powering out the bottom of a squat? is that accurate
    It will feel more like a SQ than a conventional DL.

  14.  07-03-2010  01:22 AM
    Registered User brownstown89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Stats
    5'10"  170 lbs.
    Posts
    2,029
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1076

    ^^^ yup agree and thats why i hate it lol

  15.  07-19-2010  09:07 PM
    Registered User Sweekaters's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Stats
    5'7"  220 lbs.
    Posts
    213
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    154

    I pull sumo, with my knees touching the rings on the knurling. I absolutely cannot pull conventional, I tried for months but m body isn't built for it, I can't even pick up a loaded barbell with 135lbs on it without having a massive back round.

  16.  07-21-2010  09:48 PM
    Registered User MongoSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Stats
    5'10"  250 lbs.
    Posts
    217
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    941

    It depends on your bio mechanics. torso length theigh length, arm length, shin height as well as muscular strengths. But for conventional Shoulder width or hip width is best, i personally use a narrow hip width stance with great results. Sumo works for people with strong hips, glutes. and those with shorter arms.

  17.  07-22-2010  09:00 AM
    Registered User lonewolf0420's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Stats
    6'2"  223 lbs.
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,316
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    1664

    Good thread.

    When you guys walk up to the bar, about where does it touch your legs? ankle, mid shin, upper shin?

  18.  07-22-2010  11:26 AM
    Registered User triton185's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Stats
    5'11"  208 lbs.
    Posts
    434
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Rep Power
    352

    I'm a Pu$$y now and don't deadlift but when I did, my feet were always shoulder width. Did not like sumo....

Similar Forum Threads

  1. What squat stance is best?
    By ILiftBig in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-19-2009, 04:36 PM
  2. e-stance vs trenabolan?
    By jay21 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-15-2008, 04:54 PM
  3. Sumo stance for deads
    By SteelEntity in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 06-21-2007, 01:57 PM
  4. Military Press Stance
    By heavyduty in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-19-2006, 07:44 PM

Tags for this Thread