how much less will a front squat be than a back squat be on average?

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    how much less will a front squat be than a back squat be on average?


    how much less will a persons front squat be than a back squat on average?

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    i know plenty of people who have a back squat that is nearly equal to front squat. depends on how much you train each.
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    If you have good form they will be fairly close. Front squats dont let you cheat, they really let you know where you stand.
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    My shoulders or arms hurt doing these, am I doing them wrong?
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    its about 100 pounds less for me but when i started off doing them i felt like a ***** at like 95 pounds total with the bar included. now im at like 225 for a few reps

    i dont do them as often as back squats because they annoy the **** outta me, but i havent dont back squats in a hwile, i plataeued and took a few week off doing lunges and leg presses and extentions. and ill probably go back to them on monday
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    150 different for me. I had a very good ATG back squat when training for Oly lifting. But my front was about 150lb different (lower). I'm 6"1" and have long torso, so the lower back would give, before the legs. Could have been overtraining it from the cleans and snatches though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    My shoulders or arms hurt doing these, am I doing them wrong?
    The bar isn't sitting on the fleshy part of your deltoids most likely.
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    Did these yesterday and hated every minute of it. Fleshy part or not...that is an uncomfortable way to hold a bar!! Shoulders,ABs, and lower back quit long before the legs do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    The bar isn't sitting on the fleshy part of your deltoids most likely.
    Hmmmm, I will look into this...Thanks Steveoph!
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    mine is about 30-35 lbs less than my back squat
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    My shoulders or arms hurt doing these, am I doing them wrong?
    Try using lighter weight and really settle down into the squat, if that makes sense. You might be trying to hold the weight up with your arms, instead of just having your arms there to keep it from rolling forward.
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    Also, the method of holding the bar in place, is important.

    If you use the arms "crossed in front of you" position to hold it up, there is much less force holding the bar in place, (toward your neck). The bar is just sitting on your delts and if you tip forward, or break form, the bar rolls off your shoulders.

    IMO, the best grip is to hold the bar as if you just did a power clean and got it to the catch portion of the movement. You'll have an overhand grip, basically. In this way if the bar moves, you can push it back in place. Also helps in the bottom when you can push it back and up to help begin your upward movement.

    This is why Oly lifters do them: They simulate the bottom portion of a clean, but with heavier weight. Same Grip as a clean. BUT it requires some practice to get the wrists and forearms flexible enough to be comfy. It's a way more powerful manner to hold the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenn View Post
    If you use the arms "crossed in front of you" position to hold it up, there is much less force holding the bar in place, (toward your neck). The bar is just sitting on your delts and if you tip forward, or break form, the bar rolls off your shoulders.
    This is the way I do it, the other way hurts my wrists.
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    Front squats works some muscles differently than a back squat so the variation is going to be a very individual thing. My front squat use to be stronger than my back squat because I was very quad dominant and I did not know how to correctly activate my posterior chain. Since training my back squat with a powerlifting form my quads have lost some strength and my glutes have become much stronger so my back squat is far above my front. The thing I like about front squats is that I have a much easier time balancing with them and going deep than I do with back squats because of my natural leverages.
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    if flexibility is an issue (it is for me), these could be a helpful option (and something else to throw in that cluttered gym bag we tote from one exercise to the next...)

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    I am roughly about 100 less as well. Just a bit tougher to control imo, but they certainly dont allow for cheating
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    My front squat is generally about 25% less than my back squat on average. And I agree that the clean grip is the only way to do them. Crossed over grip just doesn't let me generate as much force. Also anybody who's upper back/shoulders give first..I would never do more than 5-6 reps w/Front Squat, seems to keep those muscles from fatiguing first.
  

  
 

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