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    What would you like to see in the upcomming Power Chew Post Workout and what dosage would you like to see in there?
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    any thing that is good for post work out just as long it is high in what ever then it will be g2g
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenightmare2 View Post
    Nobody else has any thoughts?
    may be cause we already got what you need for post work out.
    like we got glutamines and bcaa and creatine all 3 of these are the best you can use for a post work out then you add your protein shakes to this and your g2g.
    so for a post work out chew it might be a lil hard to come up with something wen we got 3 of the best supplements already you can take for a post work out.
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    You're never going to fit in full post workout nutrition in the chews, so I'd skip to protein and carbs. I'd also avoid glutamine and creatine since you already have products for those needs and they're dosed appropriately, trying to add them in here would not give a sufficient dose. The best you can hope for is an anabolic igniter.

    What you'd be looking to do is kick start mTOR and increase nutrient uptake similar to Genomyx Protocol and Need2Slin combined. This would be a perfect fit for taking immediately post workout but before a shake or meal. By taking the chews, you'd increase the anabolic activity of whatever you ate. Think of it like taking insulin post workout before you eat, your muscles will suck up all the nutrients you can throw at it and build muscle!

    Actually, this would be the perfect niche for PowerChews to be in since the only reason I don't take protocol is because I don't want to take 3 shakers to the gym (1 pre/intra, 1 protocol, 1 post shake). The chews would be convenient and easy to take right after working out, and then follow it up with a shake or meal. This would make the meals much more anabolic, and also get the recovery process going faster.

    Ingredients would look like:

    Leucine 3-5g (starts mTOR and muscle protein synthesis)
    LCLT 500-2000mg (increases anabolic receptor density, absorbed with insulin)
    Na-R-ALA 250mg (insulin mimicker, it will help shuttle nutrients to the muscles)
    Gymnema Sylvestre (75% gymnemic acid) 250mg-500mg (insulin mimicker)
    Banaba Leaf (20% Corosolic Acid) 20mg (glucose uptake, block adipogenesis)
    Norvaline 100mg (vasodilator opens up veins to deliver nutrients to the muscles)


    That'd be pretty kickass, and a standout... You could even take them before ANY meal, not just post workout. You could cover 2 very sizeable markets that need more convenience and would be a perfect fit for Chews.


    1. An Extract of Lagerstroemia speciosa L. Has Insulin-Like Glucose Uptake-Stimulatory and Adipocyte Differentiation- Inhibitory Activities in 3T3-L1 cells.; Journal of Nutrition, 131, 2242-2247

    2. Effect of Corosolic Acid on gluconeogenesis in rat liver.; Yamada k, Hosokawa M, Fujimoto S et al.; Diabetes Research and Clinical Pract. 2008 Apr;80(1):48-55. Epub 2008 Jan 4.

    3. Corosolic acid stimulates glucose uptake via enhancing insulin receptor phosphorylation.; Shi, L et al.; European Journal of Pharmacology, 584(1), 21-29

    4. Effect of corosolic acid on the hydrolysis of disaccharides.Takagi S, Miura T,
    Ishibashi C, Kawata T, Ishihara E, Gu Y, Ishida T.J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo).
    2008 Jun;54(3):266-8.)

    5. The antihyperglycemic drug alpha-lipoic acid stimulates glucose uptake via both GLUT4 translocation and GLUT4 activation: potential role of p38 mitogen-activated protein kinase in GLUT4 activation.; Konrad D, Somwar R, Sweeney G, Yaworsky K, Hayashi M, Ramlal T, Klip A.; Diabetes. 2001 Jun;50(6):1464-71.

    6. Protection against oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance in rat L6 muscle cells by mircomolar concentrations of alpha-lipoic acid.; Maddux BA, See W, Lawrence JC Jr, Goldfine AL, Goldfine ID, Evans JL.; Diabetes. 2001 Feb;50(2):404-10.

    7. Gymnema sylvestre: A MemoirParijat Kanetkar, Rekha Singhal,* and
    Madhusudan KamatJ Clin Biochem Nutr. 2007 September; 41(2): 77***8211;81).

    8. Antioxidant properties of an endogenous thiol: Alpha-lipoic acid, useful in the
    prevention of cardiovascular diseases. Ghibu S, Richard C, Vergely C, Zeller M,
    Cottin Y, Rochette L.J CardiovascPharmacol. 2009 Nov;54(5):391-8. Review.

    9. Alpha-lipoic acid supplementation and diabetes.Nutr Rev. 2008 Nov;66(11):646-
    57.Singh U, Jialal I.Laboratory of Atherosclerosis and Metabolic Research,
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, UC Davis Medical Center,
    Sacramento, California 95817, USA.

    10. Jitomir J, Willoughby DS. 2008. Leucine for retention of lean mass on a hypocaloric diet. J Med Food. Dec;11(4):606-9.

    11. Garlick PJ. 2005. The role of leucine in the regulation of protein metabolism. J Nutr. Jun;135(6 Suppl):1553S-6S.

    12. Anthony JC, Land CH, Crozier SJ, Anthony TG, MacLean DA, Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2002. Orally administered Leucine enhances protein synthesis in skeletal muscle of diabetic rats in the absence of increases in 4E-BP1 or S6K1 posphorylation. Diabetes. 51: 928-936.

    13. Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2001. Regulation of protein synthesis by branched-chain amino acids. Curr Opin Nutr Metab Care. 4:39-43.

    14. Nagasawa T, Kido T, Yoshizawa F, Ito Y, Nishizawa N. 2002. Rapid suppression of protein degradation in skeletal muscle after oral feeding of leucine in rats. J Nutr Biochem. Feb;13(2):121-127.

    15. Hong SO, Layman DK. 1984. Effects of leucine on in vitro protein synthesis and degradation in rat skeletal muscles. J Nutr. Jul;114(7):1204-12.

    16. Drummond MJ, Rasmussen BB. 2008. Leucine-enriched nutrients and the regulation of mammalian target of rapamycin signalling and human skeletal muscle protein synthesis. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. May;11(3):222-6.

    17. Drummond MJ, Dreyer HC, Fry CS, Glynn EL, Rasmussen BB. 2009. Nutritional and contractile regulation of human skeletal muscle protein synthesis and mTORC1 signaling. J Appl Physiol. Apr;106(4):1374-84.

    18. Suryawan A, Jeyapalan AS, Orellana RA, Wilson FA, Nguyen HV, Davis TA. 2008. Leucine stimulates protein synthesis in skeletal muscle of neonatal pigs by enhancing mTORC1 activation. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. Oct;295(4):E868-75.

    19. Tipton KD, Ferrando AA, Phillips SM, Doyle D Jr, Wolfe RR. 1999. Postexercise net protein synthesis in human muscle from orally administered amino acids. Am J Physiol. Apr;276(4 Pt 1):E628-34.

    20. Bolster DR, Vary TC, Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2004. Leucine regulates translation initiation in rat skeletal muscle via enhanced eIF4G phosphorylation. J. Nutr. 134: 1704-1710.

    21. Zanchi NE, Nicastro H, Lancha AH Jr. 2008. Potential antiproteolytic effects of L-leucine: observations of in vitro and in vivo studies. Nutr Metab (Lond). Jul 17;5:20.

    22. Kalogeropoulou D, Lafave L, Schweim K, Gannon MC, Nuttall FQ. 2008. Leucine, when ingested with glucose, synergistically stimulates insulin secretion and lowers blood glucose. Metabolism. Dec;57(12):1747-52.

    23. Mero A, Leikas A, Knuutinen J, Hulmi JJ, Kovanen V. 2009. Effect of strength training session on plasma amino acid concentration following oral ingestion of leucine, BCAAs or glutamine in men. Eur J Appl Physiol. Jan;105(2):215-23

    24. Broad EM, Maughan RJ, Galloway SD. 2008. Carbohydrate, protein, and fat metabolism during exercise after oral carnitine supplementation in humans. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. Dec;18(6):567-84.

    25. Spiering BA, Kraemer WJ, Hatfield DL, Vingren JL, Fragala MS, Ho JY, Thomas GA, H
    Effects of L-carnitine L-tartrate supplementation on muscle oxygenation responses to resistance exercise. J Strength Cond Res. Jul;22(4):1130-5.

    26. Spiering BA, Kraemer WJ, Vingren JL, Hatfield DL, Fragala MS, Ho JY, Maresh CM, Anderson JM, Volek JavaScript. 2007. Responses of criterion variables to different supplemental doses of L-carnitine L-tartrate. J Strength Cond Res. Feb;21(1):259-64.

    27. Kraemer WJ, Spiering BA, Volek JavaScript, Ratamess NA, Sharman MJ, Rubin MR, French DN, Silvestre R, Hatfield DL, Van Heest JL, Vingren JL, Judelson DA, Deschenes MR, Maresh CM. 2006. Androgenic responses to resistance exercise: effects of feeding and L-carnitine. Med Sci Sports Exerc. Jul;38(7):1288-96.

    28. The effects of L-carnitine L-tartrate supplementation on hormonal responses to resistance exercise and recovery. J Strength Cond Res. Aug;17(3):455-62.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    You're never going to fit in full post workout nutrition in the chews, so I'd skip to protein and carbs. I'd also avoid glutamine and creatine since you already have products for those needs and they're dosed appropriately, trying to add them in here would not give a sufficient dose. The best you can hope for is an anabolic igniter.

    What you'd be looking to do is kick start mTOR and increase nutrient uptake similar to Genomyx Protocol and Need2Slin combined. This would be a perfect fit for taking immediately post workout but before a shake or meal. By taking the chews, you'd increase the anabolic activity of whatever you ate. Think of it like taking insulin post workout before you eat, your muscles will suck up all the nutrients you can throw at it and build muscle!

    Actually, this would be the perfect niche for PowerChews to be in since the only reason I don't take protocol is because I don't want to take 3 shakers to the gym (1 pre/intra, 1 protocol, 1 post shake). The chews would be convenient and easy to take right after working out, and then follow it up with a shake or meal. This would make the meals much more anabolic, and also get the recovery process going faster.

    Ingredients would look like:

    Leucine 3-5g (starts mTOR and muscle protein synthesis)
    LCLT 500-2000mg (increases anabolic receptor density, absorbed with insulin)
    Na-R-ALA 250mg (insulin mimicker, it will help shuttle nutrients to the muscles)
    Gymnema Sylvestre (75% gymnemic acid) 250mg-500mg (insulin mimicker)
    Banaba Leaf (20% Corosolic Acid) 20mg (glucose uptake, block adipogenesis)
    Norvaline 100mg (vasodilator opens up veins to deliver nutrients to the muscles)


    That'd be pretty kickass, and a standout... You could even take them before ANY meal, not just post workout. You could cover 2 very sizeable markets that need more convenience and would be a perfect fit for Chews.


    1. An Extract of Lagerstroemia speciosa L. Has Insulin-Like Glucose Uptake-Stimulatory and Adipocyte Differentiation- Inhibitory Activities in 3T3-L1 cells.; Journal of Nutrition, 131, 2242-2247

    2. Effect of Corosolic Acid on gluconeogenesis in rat liver.; Yamada k, Hosokawa M, Fujimoto S et al.; Diabetes Research and Clinical Pract. 2008 Apr;80(1):48-55. Epub 2008 Jan 4.

    3. Corosolic acid stimulates glucose uptake via enhancing insulin receptor phosphorylation.; Shi, L et al.; European Journal of Pharmacology, 584(1), 21-29

    4. Effect of corosolic acid on the hydrolysis of disaccharides.Takagi S, Miura T,
    Ishibashi C, Kawata T, Ishihara E, Gu Y, Ishida T.J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo).
    2008 Jun;54(3):266-8.)

    5. The antihyperglycemic drug alpha-lipoic acid stimulates glucose uptake via both GLUT4 translocation and GLUT4 activation: potential role of p38 mitogen-activated protein kinase in GLUT4 activation.; Konrad D, Somwar R, Sweeney G, Yaworsky K, Hayashi M, Ramlal T, Klip A.; Diabetes. 2001 Jun;50(6):1464-71.

    6. Protection against oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance in rat L6 muscle cells by mircomolar concentrations of alpha-lipoic acid.; Maddux BA, See W, Lawrence JC Jr, Goldfine AL, Goldfine ID, Evans JL.; Diabetes. 2001 Feb;50(2):404-10.

    7. Gymnema sylvestre: A MemoirParijat Kanetkar, Rekha Singhal,* and
    Madhusudan KamatJ Clin Biochem Nutr. 2007 September; 41(2): 77***8211;81).

    8. Antioxidant properties of an endogenous thiol: Alpha-lipoic acid, useful in the
    prevention of cardiovascular diseases. Ghibu S, Richard C, Vergely C, Zeller M,
    Cottin Y, Rochette L.J CardiovascPharmacol. 2009 Nov;54(5):391-8. Review.

    9. Alpha-lipoic acid supplementation and diabetes.Nutr Rev. 2008 Nov;66(11):646-
    57.Singh U, Jialal I.Laboratory of Atherosclerosis and Metabolic Research,
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, UC Davis Medical Center,
    Sacramento, California 95817, USA.

    10. Jitomir J, Willoughby DS. 2008. Leucine for retention of lean mass on a hypocaloric diet. J Med Food. Dec;11(4):606-9.

    11. Garlick PJ. 2005. The role of leucine in the regulation of protein metabolism. J Nutr. Jun;135(6 Suppl):1553S-6S.

    12. Anthony JC, Land CH, Crozier SJ, Anthony TG, MacLean DA, Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2002. Orally administered Leucine enhances protein synthesis in skeletal muscle of diabetic rats in the absence of increases in 4E-BP1 or S6K1 posphorylation. Diabetes. 51: 928-936.

    13. Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2001. Regulation of protein synthesis by branched-chain amino acids. Curr Opin Nutr Metab Care. 4:39-43.

    14. Nagasawa T, Kido T, Yoshizawa F, Ito Y, Nishizawa N. 2002. Rapid suppression of protein degradation in skeletal muscle after oral feeding of leucine in rats. J Nutr Biochem. Feb;13(2):121-127.

    15. Hong SO, Layman DK. 1984. Effects of leucine on in vitro protein synthesis and degradation in rat skeletal muscles. J Nutr. Jul;114(7):1204-12.

    16. Drummond MJ, Rasmussen BB. 2008. Leucine-enriched nutrients and the regulation of mammalian target of rapamycin signalling and human skeletal muscle protein synthesis. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. May;11(3):222-6.

    17. Drummond MJ, Dreyer HC, Fry CS, Glynn EL, Rasmussen BB. 2009. Nutritional and contractile regulation of human skeletal muscle protein synthesis and mTORC1 signaling. J Appl Physiol. Apr;106(4):1374-84.

    18. Suryawan A, Jeyapalan AS, Orellana RA, Wilson FA, Nguyen HV, Davis TA. 2008. Leucine stimulates protein synthesis in skeletal muscle of neonatal pigs by enhancing mTORC1 activation. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. Oct;295(4):E868-75.

    19. Tipton KD, Ferrando AA, Phillips SM, Doyle D Jr, Wolfe RR. 1999. Postexercise net protein synthesis in human muscle from orally administered amino acids. Am J Physiol. Apr;276(4 Pt 1):E628-34.

    20. Bolster DR, Vary TC, Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. 2004. Leucine regulates translation initiation in rat skeletal muscle via enhanced eIF4G phosphorylation. J. Nutr. 134: 1704-1710.

    21. Zanchi NE, Nicastro H, Lancha AH Jr. 2008. Potential antiproteolytic effects of L-leucine: observations of in vitro and in vivo studies. Nutr Metab (Lond). Jul 17;5:20.

    22. Kalogeropoulou D, Lafave L, Schweim K, Gannon MC, Nuttall FQ. 2008. Leucine, when ingested with glucose, synergistically stimulates insulin secretion and lowers blood glucose. Metabolism. Dec;57(12):1747-52.

    23. Mero A, Leikas A, Knuutinen J, Hulmi JJ, Kovanen V. 2009. Effect of strength training session on plasma amino acid concentration following oral ingestion of leucine, BCAAs or glutamine in men. Eur J Appl Physiol. Jan;105(2):215-23

    24. Broad EM, Maughan RJ, Galloway SD. 2008. Carbohydrate, protein, and fat metabolism during exercise after oral carnitine supplementation in humans. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. Dec;18(6):567-84.

    25. Spiering BA, Kraemer WJ, Hatfield DL, Vingren JL, Fragala MS, Ho JY, Thomas GA, H
    Effects of L-carnitine L-tartrate supplementation on muscle oxygenation responses to resistance exercise. J Strength Cond Res. Jul;22(4):1130-5.

    26. Spiering BA, Kraemer WJ, Vingren JL, Hatfield DL, Fragala MS, Ho JY, Maresh CM, Anderson JM, Volek JavaScript. 2007. Responses of criterion variables to different supplemental doses of L-carnitine L-tartrate. J Strength Cond Res. Feb;21(1):259-64.

    27. Kraemer WJ, Spiering BA, Volek JavaScript, Ratamess NA, Sharman MJ, Rubin MR, French DN, Silvestre R, Hatfield DL, Van Heest JL, Vingren JL, Judelson DA, Deschenes MR, Maresh CM. 2006. Androgenic responses to resistance exercise: effects of feeding and L-carnitine. Med Sci Sports Exerc. Jul;38(7):1288-96.

    28. The effects of L-carnitine L-tartrate supplementation on hormonal responses to resistance exercise and recovery. J Strength Cond Res. Aug;17(3):455-62.
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    I think Milas has pretty much the best idea how to properly do post workout chews
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    is there any updates on this? such as what will be inside the chews?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEE151 View Post
    is there any updates on this? such as what will be inside the chews?

    Inquiring minds want to know!!
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    i'd like to see this soon, milas has good ideas...anything for recovery that tastes like candy is a big bonus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti
    i'd like to see this soon, milas has good ideas...anything for recovery that tastes like candy is a big bonus
    Yeh man. I'm looking forward to these!
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    whey iso protein chew would be good. about 5g of protein in each tablet =20g of whey iso.
    protein is one of the best out there for your muscles to recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEE151 View Post
    whey iso protein chew would be good. about 5g of protein in each tablet =20g of whey iso.
    protein is one of the best out there for your muscles to recovery.
    20g's of protein for a serving of chews would be awesome

    off topic, but i could use some caesin chews as well for the night time
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    +1 on the whey chews, make a choc flavor for those thanks
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    A whey protein chew is an excellent idea and gives a great alternative to shakes. I think those would sell like crazy!
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    Ya if you could fit the whey iso in the chews that would be friggin amazing! A bit hit for sure. No longer caring a shaker around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    You're never going to fit in full post workout nutrition in the chews, so I'd skip to protein and carbs. I'd also avoid glutamine and creatine since you already have products for those needs and they're dosed appropriately, trying to add them in here would not give a sufficient dose. The best you can hope for is an anabolic igniter.

    What you'd be looking to do is kick start mTOR and increase nutrient uptake similar to Genomyx Protocol and Need2Slin combined. This would be a perfect fit for taking immediately post workout but before a shake or meal. By taking the chews, you'd increase the anabolic activity of whatever you ate. Think of it like taking insulin post workout before you eat, your muscles will suck up all the nutrients you can throw at it and build muscle!

    Actually, this would be the perfect niche for PowerChews to be in since the only reason I don't take protocol is because I don't want to take 3 shakers to the gym (1 pre/intra, 1 protocol, 1 post shake). The chews would be convenient and easy to take right after working out, and then follow it up with a shake or meal. This would make the meals much more anabolic, and also get the recovery process going faster.

    Ingredients would look like:

    Leucine 3-5g (starts mTOR and muscle protein synthesis)
    LCLT 500-2000mg (increases anabolic receptor density, absorbed with insulin)
    Na-R-ALA 250mg (insulin mimicker, it will help shuttle nutrients to the muscles)
    Gymnema Sylvestre (75% gymnemic acid) 250mg-500mg (insulin mimicker) (blocks carbs)
    Banaba Leaf (20% Corosolic Acid) 20mg (glucose uptake, block adipogenesis)
    Norvaline 100mg (vasodilator opens up veins to deliver nutrients to the muscles)


    That'd be pretty kickass, and a standout... You could even take them before ANY meal, not just post workout. You could cover 2 very sizeable markets that need more convenience and would be a perfect fit for Chews.


    1. An Extract of Lagerstroemia speciosa L. Has Insulin-Like Glucose Uptake-Stimulatory and Adipocyte Differentiation- Inhibitory Activities in 3T3-L1 cells.; Journal of Nutrition, 131, 2242-2247

    2. Effect of Corosolic Acid on gluconeogenesis in rat liver.; Yamada k, Hosokawa M, Fujimoto S et al.; Diabetes Research and Clinical Pract. 2008 Apr;80(1):48-55. Epub 2008 Jan 4.

    3. Corosolic acid stimulates glucose uptake via enhancing insulin receptor phosphorylation.; Shi, L et al.; European Journal of Pharmacology, 584(1), 21-29

    4. Effect of corosolic acid on the hydrolysis of disaccharides.Takagi S, Miura T,
    Ishibashi C, Kawata T, Ishihara E, Gu Y, Ishida T.J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo).
    2008 Jun;54(3):266-8.)

    5. The antihyperglycemic drug alpha-lipoic acid stimulates glucose uptake via both GLUT4 translocation and GLUT4 activation: potential role of p38 mitogen-activated protein kinase in GLUT4 activation.; Konrad D, Somwar R, Sweeney G, Yaworsky K, Hayashi M, Ramlal T, Klip A.; Diabetes. 2001 Jun;50(6):1464-71.

    6. Protection against oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance in rat L6 muscle cells by mircomolar concentrations of alpha-lipoic acid.; Maddux BA, See W, Lawrence JC Jr, Goldfine AL, Goldfine ID, Evans JL.; Diabetes. 2001 Feb;50(2):404-10.

    7. Gymnema sylvestre: A MemoirParijat Kanetkar, Rekha Singhal,* and
    Madhusudan KamatJ Clin Biochem Nutr. 2007 September; 41(2): 77***8211;81).

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    I think this would be a great idea for a powerchew! :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    A whey protein chew is an excellent idea and gives a great alternative to shakes. I think those would sell like crazy!
    this idea i dontlike. way top much chewing for howmuch protein i take in lol
    BCAAs and glutamin are great.
    I like using the better protien bars with some extra whey added for chewing in my protein :-)
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    the rest i rather drink myself :-)
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