The Complete Testosterone Recovery Stack
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03-10-2008 01:34 PM
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The Complete Testosterone Recovery Stack
AM Members,
We are proud to announce the completion of our Testosterone Recovery Stack. This is a stack of Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, and our newest product -- EndoAmp. This stack maximizes LH & FSH secretion and enhances testicular sensitivity for the maximum testosterone increase. This is perfect for PCT, or general performance enhancement.

Here is a brief rundown of what each product does -
1. Sustain Alpha causes the LH & FSH “release” from the pituitary by suppressing and blocking estrogen at the receptor with 7,8 Benzoflavone and Resveratrol.
2. Toco-8 with its high content of tocotrienols, helps increase the concentration of LH & FSH in the pituitary for a strong “burst” during LH & FSH release. Toco-8 also enhances the testes sensitivity to LH.
3. EndoAmp further amplifies the testosterone response from Sustain alpha by increasing the testes ability to create testosterone. By reducing cortisol, EndoAmp protects the testicular leydig cells, increases the testicular steroidogenic enzyme concentration, and enhances steroid-to-enzyme association. EndoAmp creates the perfect environment for testicular steroidogenesis – aka testosterone creation.
With our complete Testosterone Recovery Stack for 119.99 you get enough of each product to last 30 days (that saves you $15).
Plus, with the forum discount of “SPONSOR10” you can save an additional 10%!
And remember, all orders over $150 get FREE 2-3 day shipping! (within the US only)
-Pp
A visual schematic
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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03-11-2008 10:50 AM
Registered User
Looks very useful.
Would the Toco-8 and EndoAmp be similarly beneficial to use with Dermacrine? Or do you feel there is the most synergy with Sustain Alpha?
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03-11-2008 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
Messenger
Looks very useful.
Would the Toco-8 and EndoAmp be similarly beneficial to use with Dermacrine? Or do you feel there is the most synergy with Sustain Alpha?
You can use Toco-8 and EndoAmp with Dermacrine for additional benefits, but Sustain is whats targeted for PCT.
Dermacrine has high amounts of DHEA and pregnenolone and this can inhibit natural testosterone production.
-Pp
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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03-16-2008 03:58 PM
Registered User
Yep, I have used both Dermacrine and Sustain before. What I was wondering is whether the inclusion of DHEA and Pregnenolone lessens the need for the EndoAmp.
For example for a lean bulk, would it be more productive to run Phyto Test with Dermacrine followed by the Test Recovery Stack, or would Endo Amp and Toco8 still have a beneficial effect alongside Dermacrine?
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03-16-2008 03:59 PM
Registered User
Sorry, I just realized this is specifically a PCT thread, so maybe I should be asking this in the Primordial section?
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03-16-2008 04:26 PM
Member
Originally Posted by
T-Bone
So what is this gonna cost around $500 a month??.
Try reading:
With our complete Testosterone Recovery Stack for 119.99 you get enough of each product to last 30 days (that saves you $15).
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03-16-2008 04:31 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by
TheNoid
Try reading:
Oops...I will put my foot in my mouth now!
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03-16-2008 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Messenger
Yep, I have used both Dermacrine and Sustain before. What I was wondering is whether the inclusion of DHEA and Pregnenolone lessens the need for the EndoAmp.
For example for a lean bulk, would it be more productive to run Phyto Test with Dermacrine followed by the Test Recovery Stack, or would Endo Amp and Toco8 still have a beneficial effect alongside Dermacrine?
Yeah, EndoAmp would best be saved for after Dermacrine durring the PCT with Sustain Alpha and Toco-8.
-Pp
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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03-24-2008 03:55 PM
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www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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03-24-2008 04:39 PM
Registered User
Just wanted to drop a quick report on this stack of 3.
Toco-8: it is a tasteless powder able to be eated right out of the measuring scoop or it does mix easily w/ water or juice.
EndoAMP: same as above !
Sustain Alpha: Lot#2300. using 5 pumps, like a lotion which dries rapidly without stickyness when applied dry. When right out of the shower it takes longer. The product has an interesting odifferous emination - its a smell I can't yet describe and has taken me a while to get used to. No one I know has said anything to me about being "smelly" so I'm assuming its just something the user experiences since its on my chest right under my nose.
The combo has so far been a positve impact at reducing my fatigue / grey moods and thats nice
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03-24-2008 05:26 PM
Member
Originally Posted by
scoooter
Just wanted to drop a quick report on this stack of 3.
Toco-8: it is a tasteless powder able to be eated right out of the measuring scoop or it does mix easily w/ water or juice.
EndoAMP: same as above !
Sustain Alpha: Lot#2300. using 5 pumps, like a lotion which dries rapidly without stickyness when applied dry. When right out of the shower it takes longer. The product has an interesting odifferous emination - its a smell I can't yet describe and has taken me a while to get used to. No one I know has said anything to me about being "smelly" so I'm assuming its just something the user experiences since its on my chest right under my nose.
The combo has so far been a positve impact at reducing my fatigue / grey moods and thats nice
Cool, how old are you scooter? If you dont mind me asking of course...
Also stacking in PCT or just a solo stack?
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03-25-2008 06:37 AM
Registered User
In my profile is all the data but to make it easy I just turned 42 this month. Yes, I'm stacking these in PCT after a 5 wk Havoc /AH-89 PH cycle.
The powders also mixed well in my oatmeal .......mmm yummy.
Last edited by scoooter; 03-25-2008 at 09:04 AM.
Reason: add info
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04-02-2008 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
scoooter
In my profile is all the data but to make it easy I just turned 42 this month. Yes, I'm stacking these in PCT after a 5 wk Havoc /AH-89 PH cycle.
The powders also mixed well in my oatmeal .......mmm yummy.
:-)
-Pp
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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04-02-2008 01:15 PM
Registered User
This stuff has been great ! to summarize....like the song says "The boys are back in town" (Thin Lizzy)
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04-07-2008 05:51 PM
Member
Originally Posted by
scoooter
This stuff has been great ! to summarize....like the song says "The boys are back in town" (Thin Lizzy)
Lol, same way I felt.
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04-23-2008 02:53 PM
Never enough
I never had real shrinkage during my cycle (8 weeks of 1-t @ 600mg with the last 3 weeks being superdrol ramped from 10-30) but did loose some libido. my results were pretty amazing on Sustain alpha + toco-8 as my only PCT items (i also used creatine and x-factor, but neither effects testosterone)

I really noticed the boys hanging lower than normal even around week two. The final result was about a month after PCT ended. I lost about 10% bodyfat over the timespan between the tests, but I still can't believe my testosterone almost tripled!
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04-24-2008 06:44 AM
Member
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04-26-2008 05:48 PM
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... and if you notice, his T levels went up while LH/FSH declined. This suggests that his testicular sensitivity was improved exactly what the Toco-8 is designed to do.
-Pp
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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04-26-2008 05:58 PM
On my grind
Originally Posted by
Primordial Perf
... and if you notice, his T levels went up while LH/FSH declined. This suggests that his testicular sensitivity was improved exactly what the Toco-8 is designed to do.
-Pp
I loved the regulare sustain, i cant wait to try the sustain alpha. Products are looking good PP!
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04-27-2008 03:24 PM
Registered User
EJL:
how much do those panels cost? It would be good to find an inexpensive lab for regular testing of different protocols.
Originally Posted by
EasyEJL
I never had real shrinkage during my cycle (8 weeks of 1-t @ 600mg with the last 3 weeks being superdrol ramped from 10-30) but did loose some libido. my results were pretty amazing on Sustain alpha + toco-8 as my only PCT items (i also used creatine and x-factor, but neither effects testosterone)
I really noticed the boys hanging lower than normal even around week two. The final result was about a month after PCT ended. I lost about 10% bodyfat over the timespan between the tests, but I still can't believe my testosterone almost tripled!
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