Do i need a SERM?
- 08-20-2007, 12:02 PM
Do i need a SERM?
I know this question gets asked often and i have read "A Stupid People's Guide to post cycle therapy" but am not really sure if need one. Im on day 20 of promagnon 25 using 50 mg a day and am no longer seeing any gains so i am going to stop. I have Toremifene but am not sure if i need it. Can i get away with just using Novedex or should i start with the torem and then taper down while starting the novedex. Someone please let me know what they think. Im sure i let out some sort of vital information so let me know if i need to add something.
- 08-20-2007, 12:47 PM
you should start with the Torm (serm) then if you want to introduce the novedex after week 1, but start w/ low dosage then work your way up if needed
08-20-2007, 12:47 PM
If you did the research and you know that this particular question is asked very often and ALWAYS given the same answer....why ask it again?
08-20-2007, 03:10 PM
Thanks. Well i figured with such a short cycle i might not need it. Ill start it Tuesday with some sort test booster.
08-20-2007, 05:09 PM
08-20-2007, 05:23 PM
-If you're gains begin to falter, that is a sign of shutdown. Oral steroids will shut you down faster than injectable steroid esters, that's one of the reason's they are typically run for 4 weeks and not 12.
-When I first started using steroids, I didn't use SERM's because I didn't know how to obtain them. In attempt to compensate for that fact, I ran short cycles so I wouldn't get shut down as bad. The third time around, oooh, it was ugly. After that, I learned pretty f*cking quick how to run proper post cycle therapy.
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08-21-2007, 08:45 AM
My apologies for the attitude previously, but in all honesty, doesn't the phrase "better safe than sorry" sound pretty good when you are talking about your sex life?
08-21-2007, 09:01 AM
yea you were a pr**k (joking)......some stuff does get repetitive though......i guess some people (myself sometimes) needs things spelled out for them.....but your response is understandable
08-21-2007, 02:14 PM
Ohh its my fault completely. The guy at the supplement store told me that it would not shut me down at all. He actually told me it was not really a steroid at all. After the first week with some excellent gains i looked into it and realized that he was an idiot as-well as myself for not doing the proper diligence. My sex drive is still normal and i noticed a little of gyno but i think that was mainly due to the bloat. Hopefully this will reverse with the torem and natural booster and then the novedex. I appreciate the help and the attitude is well deserved since i was somewhat stupid on my part. Is the Torem going to kill my sex drive or will i still be ok? I guess this is my main worry at this point.
08-21-2007, 02:17 PM
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08-21-2007, 05:09 PM
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08-23-2007, 08:35 AM
Plus I hated my time on promag...no realy gains, minus a small recomp and it made my kidneys and/or liver hurt.
08-24-2007, 10:51 AM
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