Yes, nolva is hepatoxic, so run your ancillaries along with it.
Take it easy buddy.
Okay, this is just getting stupid...Go ahead, have fun with your shutdown, have fun with your tits...I like my d*ck to work and I like not having man-boobs, but that is just me.
Hey man, I just wanted to chime in here really quick to let you know that you can recover from a mild cycle, ESPECIALLY one as light as PP for 3 weeks not exceeding 30mgs without a SERM without any adverse sides and/or shutdown beyond reocvery. I agree with your thoughts and opinions on using tried and true methods, BUT ATD/AI's are also tried and true, and as far as displacing E vs binding E, can you really say that you are going to be safer? A combination of the two is fitting at times, but this is a prohormone, granted somewhat wet and hpta suppressing, that will be easily recovered from.
Sure man, I'd love to, could you be specific with what you wanna hear about?
Good thoughts from both RA and PI --- I don't think you would HAVE to have a SERM here, but if you do use one I would do it like PI suggested and just taper down. 3 weeks would be a max I believe may even try 2 with an AI/ATD following.
Whoa, Matt whats up man. I disagree wholeheartedly here. If you do have intentions of using a SERM, taper UP! start low and taper your way up, but use it inversely WITH an ATD and taper that down starting at a moderate to high dose dependant on your cycle. Example:
Most definitely. Dr. D has a post about this as well I do believe. I will be posting PCT, Laymans Terms here shortly. It's a post I did on another forum about the basics of PCT.
That could very well be, although I have no need to run a SERM. I believe them to be unnecessary.
Good idea...
Definitely, an ATD could be used perfectly fine as a standalone part of your anti e portion of PCT. You would still need a few other pieces to your pct, but I'm sure you know this.
definitely. but, like i said, i still not convinced that a SERM is completely unneeded. i certainly want my **** to work and certainly dont want any titties so i dunno....
As I had mentioned previously, YOU WONT GET GYNOCEMASTIA if you dont use a SERM. It's all some paranoid loser who started preachin on his soapbox. Whoever it is, has no understanding of hormones. If you feel that you need to use a SERM, do so. You penis will work fine, if not supplement with Paravol. Your titties will remain manly unless you have a preexisting case of gynocemastia, in which case you probably shouldn't be using phs anyways.
well my friend after his superdrol got gyno....about to have surgery here in a few months to get rid of it. he ran only novedex xt as pct though
I knew that someone wouldnt be able to handle some truth. I am talking about prohormones, which actually ARE steroids. When's the last time you actually saw someone lactate?? Thought so. calm down.
Sigh. Superdrol is methylated masterone, a steroid.
Hmm? The point I just made was that your previous post didn't make any sense. Prohormones are precursors TO STEROIDS. So through the law of transition... Prohormones ---> Steroids. Please do some homework bro.
Yes I am against SERM usage for every little cycle that someone does. I didnt say all cycles, just the majority of the cycles ran. I did NOT say there's no chance of getting gyno, I said that it's more likely if someone is already prone to it, in which case they should avoid altering hormones anyways.
I agree, like I said, I have done my research I am one hundred % comfortable with the way I do things, if someone else is, fine, if someone disagrees, its no big deal, I just want people to know that prescription medication is not necessarry all the time.
Although this is true, it's a touch bit deeper than this. Good post regardless. The methylation process can alter the chemicals nature though as well, an example is M14ADD VS BOLD both are the same exact chemical, but one converts to dianabol, the other converts to boldenone, the methylation process is responsible for this.
That could be dependant on your budget, if money wasnt an option, I would go with some high dosed 6-bromo (hyperdrolx2) a good test booster (axis labs hypertest) and your favorite cortisol suppressor started in week two and tapered up.
you are low in adrenal output immediate post-cycle, and is followed by a huge onset around 2 and a half weeks post cycle. I do advocate the use of AI's, I have no problem with them at all.
Taper down so you dont have an E rebound. Doses are dependant on what product you are using. Do you have an example that you would like me to use?
i will be takin retain also....not sure about a natty test booster or hyperdrol....what are your thoughts?
Retain is a good product. A natural test booster is a big plus in the pct world. Your choices are very open, like I had mentioned if you are strapped for cash, go with the SNS p c t stack. Hyperdrol X2 is far superior to the 1st version, for future reference. Really it's a personal preference kind of deal, the options are near limitless.
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