I don't believe this has been posted yet...
A lot of you know me. There was a time where I did a 10+ month cycle, combining 1-2 injectables with 1-2 orals at a time. That plus stimulant abuse kinda made me a little wacked, so I stopped everything and eventually fell off the bodybuilding path.
For almost 2 years following that neverending cycle, my LH and FSH were nil (<0.03 each), and my tesosterone was low as you could imagine. I actually began seeing an endocrinologist, to see if there was something they could do. (Read: I was hoping for TRT ). I actually thought my HPTA was truly ****ed for a while, so I almost gave up on recovery.
The endocrinologist ordered several sets of labs over a period of a couple months. I began seeing marked increases in LH/FSH. Mind you, this was still after 1 year + of being off any form of anabolic steroids. I would see something like .22/.30; then the next one would be .57/.63; 1.01/1.22; etc, etc. Finally he decided to do a clomiphene stimulation test. He gave me a 10 day supply of clomid, and I would take "baselines" on day 0, and test labs on day 10. LH, FSH, and Total Test were all ordered.
I had other plans...
I was given some Toremifene, and I would start that on day 0 for the 10 days instead of the Clomiphene. The blood was drawn in sets of 3, 15 minutes apart, because LH and FSH are pulsatile.
LH: 1.54, 1.51, 1.60 (mIU/ml)
FSH: 2.20, 2.37, 2.79 (mIU/ml)
Test: 250, 256, 264 (ng/dl)
LH: 2.43, 1.94, 1.54
FSH: 3.65, 3.27, 3.92
Test: 402, 418, 435
Needless to say I did not tell the endocrinologist that I swapped the Clomiphene pills for research grade toremifene. But he was very happy with the outcome of the labs.