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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    How is that a half-life formula?
    t1/2 is the short-hand notation for spelling out "half life".....


  2. If you believe this is the best approach then I encourage you to wait 6 weeks before starting post cycle and see how you feel.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    "Magical", OK, now you're starting to sound a bit derogatory. Please do not use fruity terms like that with me again. You can use whatever equation you like in your 'magical' world where the skies are purple and unicorns run free, I could really give a **** less.

    Anyway, if you must know, the t1/2 is biphasic. So no, a half life is not a half live. Each metabolite of test has a different half live and the enzymes that cleave the ester are not steady. That's why more hydrolysis occurs initially. If it didn't, 1 shot ever 5 days would achieve steady state in just a few weeks. Plus, much of the hormone leaves the sight of deposit only to be sheltered in adipose tissue or converted into other esters of the bodies choosing. You are trying to make this black and white. It's not. Research the issue if you really want to know, I don't have the time to offer links or do it for you (because I already know), but please be respectful in the future. I was only trying to help elaborate on your equation when you decided to get ****ty. I really don't take much ****.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by size
    If you believe this is the best approach then I encourage you to wait 6 weeks before starting post cycle and see how you feel.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    t1/2 is the short-hand notation for spelling out "half life".....
    Alright well I don't know why you were posting that then because no one was debating what a half-life was.

    Quote Originally Posted by size
    If you believe this is the best approach then I encourage you to wait 6 weeks before starting post cycle and see how you feel.
    I don't stop cycles on long esters anymore so I would never be required to start that late.

    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Anyway, if you must know, the t1/2 is biphasic. So no, a half life is not a half live. Each metabolite of test has a different half live and the enzymes that cleave the ester are not steady.
    No need to get all upset. I didn't intend to offend.

    Anyways, when you say the half-life is biphasic, you are including the metabolite's half-life, correct? Cause I am only taking into account the ester's half-life which is not biphasic. I could not find any literature stating that testosterone esters were biphasic.

    Assuming THEY were biphasic, you must have some source that you used to calculate that 100mg "disappearance" claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Plus, much of the hormone leaves the sight of deposit only to be sheltered in adipose tissue or converted into other esters of the bodies choosing. You are trying to make this black and white. It's not.
    The majority of exogenous testosterone migrates to fatty tissue? Maybe if you're injecting into it...otherwise it resides in the muscle tissue until its picked up by the blood.

    I'm not trying to make it exactly black & white, but close enough to generate a proper PCT start time. Most of the other variables are negligible, unless of course the significant differences you claim can be substantiated with some literature. (Come on, you must have at least one journal article)

    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Research the issue if you really want to know, I don't have the time to offer links or do it for you (because I already know), but please be respectful in the future. I was only trying to help elaborate on your equation when you decided to get ****ty. I really don't take much ****.
    I have attempted to research your claims and I've come up with nothing. Perhaps you can provide me with a couple journal articles that I can read? I have no problem agreeing with you or admitting I am wrong, but when I can't come up with anything to back up your claims, bells are ringing.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    Alright well I don't know why you were posting that then because no one was debating what a half-life was.
    Okay genius....I referenced half life with the notation "t1/2" in a sentence. You asked what t1/2 meant!!!!! So, I said t1/2 = half life.

    Geezus....I think we have a newest "most dense" material on our hands....and its surrounding someones cranal cavity.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    I don't know what your t1/2 is suppose to mean. I didn't say it was linear either.
    See! ^^

    I brought up half life (t1/2) b/c of the way you referenced doc's numbers. You were speaking of a "half life" and disappearing 100mg, etc. Nevermind...you wouldn't get it mr. e-ducated.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    Okay genius....I referenced half life with the notation "t1/2" in a sentence. You asked what t1/2 meant!!!!! So, I said t1/2 = half life.

    Geezus....I think we have a newest "most dense" material on our hands....and its surrounding someones cranal cavity.
    Um no you gave the definition of a half-life which was already clear to everyone. I simply asked about the abbreivation which I'd not seen before.

    See here:

    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    t1/2 is hte time it takes for "half" of the hormone to dissappear.
    Captain Obvious strikes again.

    Now do you see what I said what I said?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    Okay genius....I referenced half life with the notation "t1/2" in a sentence. You asked what t1/2 meant!!!!! So, I said t1/2 = half life.

    Geezus....I think we have a newest "most dense" material on our hands....and its surrounding someones cranal cavity.
    Kwycke,
    Don't even bother bro! Let this punk figure it out the hard way. Some folks just have to learn for themselves that the equations don't add up. Years of mistakes, confusion, and trial and error will humble him. (haha, kind of reminds me of someone I once knew, but I was always much more interested in finding the real truth rather than 'being right')

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    Captain Obvious strikes again.

    Now do you see what I said what I said?
    YOu were implying a linear relationship...therefore 1/2lift = 2x1/4 life in your little brain when that is not the case.

    Its okay...I'm sure the gods take pity on the stupid...afterall, their ****up.

  11. I'm a punk because I asked you for some articles to back up your claims? Mmmk. You're looking quite incredible here. Hopefully people reading this will realize that.

    I've spent the last couple hours attempting to research your claims and I've come up with nothing. I've no problem continuing the debate, but you seem to lack the time to provide a simple journal article to substantiate your claims. Do you think your time is better spent insulting me than backing up the things you say?

  12. What you dont get is you asking Dr.D to backup his claims is like asking Steven Hawkings to prove a basic physics principle.

    He's earned the right not to have to "prove himself" to someone like you. Read up, bulkego.

    edit: If he were to be in development of a new theory regarding rate of decay of testosterone, maybe we'd ask him to back up his beliefs

  13. Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
    not going to read the thread, but Kwycke and Dr. D usually right.
    whoever is arguing with them is probably wrong and a fool
    No...Dr.D is usually right...I need to get smacked around from time to time

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    YOu were implying a linear relationship...therefore 1/2lift = 2x1/4 life in your little brain when that is not the case.

    Its okay...I'm sure the gods take pity on the stupid...afterall, their ****up.
    I never implied a linear relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    What you dont get is you asking Dr.D to backup his claims is like asking Steven Hawkings to prove a basic physics principle.

    He's earned the right not to have to "prove himself" to someone like you. Read up, bulkego.
    This isn't simple biochemistry so it isn't common knowledge. If it was, I would have no problem backing up his claims by researching it.

    I have no ego problems. I've already mentioned numerous times I've no problem admitting I'm wrong about something.

    Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
    not going to read the thread, but Kwycke and Dr. D usually right.
    whoever is arguing with them is probably wrong and a fool
    Thanks for adding something constructive to the discussion!

  15. You're getting a pass b/c you don't know Dr.D well

    You "implied" a linear relationship when you said there was 100mg missing of test (he said 400mg remaining, about) when after 10.5 days of 1000mg of Test Enan. If you explain your rationale behind that statement, maybe I"ll believe you weren't implying a linear rate of decay.

    Sorry if I misinterpreted you....but, that's how you came off...

  16. Okay well 1000mg enanthate injected right? After 10.5 days there will be half remaining, 500mg. Hence the half-life of 10.5 days

    But he said there would only be 400mg, and that an additional 100mg would have been hydrolyzed or something a rather.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    Thanks for adding something constructive to the discussion!
    sorry... consider it comic relief, I haven't even read the thread. It's been a long lousy day. forgive my comment - I didn't even know who the argument was between.

    ...and away we go
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  18. Everyone needs to stop being rude to one another. Discuss as long as you like but cease with the negativity.

  19. Yeah, lets all be friends

    Heres some stress relief: http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7...58qu6vw3ds.jpg

  20. No joke about the quitting being rude... I would really look bad for three people to get banned due to their inability to be civil to each other.. I did take time to edit one post that seemed to be the one that started the rude comments..

  21. this was my first rude post since 03
    im sorry, I did it for kwycke
    sorry I told on you !
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    What you dont get is you asking Dr.D to backup his claims is like asking Steven Hawkings to prove a basic physics principle.

    He's earned the right not to have to "prove himself" to someone like you. Read up, bulkego.
    DD is on top of his ****

  23. I think the calc idea is a good one.. and really useful, of course it would be more useful if it were as accurate as possible... I think the intentions by bulk were honorable... Although Bulks never been a very good Debator, He's probably just a bit upset that his well planned good intentions were run a bit amuck. Not everyone can be a diplomat.

    If the pct calc, could be perfected to something more accurate, I'd keep it booked marked... Although It's not a huge concern for me, as I believe in a 2 month pct aswell, coming off with a short ester, including all sorts of heavy hitting goodies (IGF, HGH, ADT (or is it ATD.. I forget), Activate) etc....

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Poobah
    Although Bulks never been a very good Debator, He's probably just a bit upset that his well planned good intentions were run a bit amuck.
    Never been a good debator? What are you talking about? Apparently you didn't read this thread very well.

    DR.D has committed a fallacy. He has appealed to authority without providing any sources for his claims. I've attempted to find some for him and found nothing.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    What you dont get is you asking Dr.D to backup his claims is like asking Steven Hawkings to prove a basic physics principle.

    He's earned the right not to have to "prove himself" to someone like you. Read up, bulkego.

    edit: If he were to be in development of a new theory regarding rate of decay of testosterone, maybe we'd ask him to back up his beliefs
    I'm sorry. He hasn't earned the right.

    He's doing nothing but bashing and yes he DOES have to prove (cite) references for what he states. Moreso than most of us in my opinion given his "stature" on this board.

    Instead of bashing this calculator.. why don't some of you ****tards offer up some advice to improve it. Maybe Bulkmuscle can include a couple different PCT scenerios that are employed.

    I think some of you like to cause more problems than help to solve them because you like the sound of your own voice (words).

    Geez.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by houseman
    I'm sorry. He hasn't earned the right.

    He's doing nothing but bashing and yes he DOES have to prove (cite) references for what he states. Moreso than most of us in my opinion given his "stature" on this board.

    Instead of bashing this calculator.. why don't some of you ****tards offer up some advice to improve it. Maybe Bulkmuscle can include a couple different PCT scenerios that are employed.

    I think some of you like to cause more problems than help to solve them because you like the sound of your own voice (words).

    Geez.
    So ****tards huh??? You have just sealed the fate of this thread. Read a few posts higher... where this what warned about.

    Adams

  27. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982
    So ****tards huh??? You have just sealed the fate of this thread. Read a few posts higher... where this what warned about.

    Adams
    The fate was sealed.

    You have someone here trying to develop a vey useful tool and is getting no helpful feedback expect smack.

    Perhaps if people kept their ego in check Bulkmuscle could develop the tool to be effective for most people and not just those that subscribe to the long taper and when to start PCT.

    MANY people do, by the way.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by houseman
    The fate was sealed.

    You have someone here trying to develop a vey useful tool and is getting no helpful feedback expect smack.

    Perhaps if people kept their ego in check Bulkmuscle could develop the tool to be effective for most people and not just those that subscribe to the long taper and when to start PCT.

    MANY people do, by the way.
    Yes it was running amuck... but it seems to me that after the warning... people where discussing in a professional manner.

    Oh well... Im just going to stay out of it.

    Adams

  29. Perhaps ****tard was a bit too extreme. The general theme of what I wrote still applies though.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by bulkmuscle
    Never been a good debator? What are you talking about? Apparently you didn't read this thread very well.

    DR.D has committed a fallacy. He has appealed to authority without providing any sources for his claims. I've attempted to find some for him and found nothing.
    Sorry bulk nothing personal... I'm a lover not a fighter.

    (I did read the thread, and I do appreciate the effort you put in to that calc...)

    peace.
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