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  1. Is this overkill?


    Finishing a epi-10, epiandro stack the end of the week.

    Epi 0/20/20/30/30/30
    Epiandro 600//600/700/700/700/700

    Is my pct overkill?

    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3g
    Lean xtreme 3/3/3/3
    Arimistane 0/0/3/2/2/1

    Should I drop the lean xtreme? Too much cortisol control?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Finishing a epi-10, epiandro stack the end of the week.

    Epi 0/20/20/30/30/30
    Epiandro 600//600/700/700/700/700

    Is my pct overkill?

    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3g
    Lean xtreme 3/3/3/3
    Arimistane 0/0/3/2/2/1

    Should I drop the lean xtreme? Too much cortisol control?
    If you were gonna drop something, drop the arimistane... its almost useless. If you need an ai (and you really should have one after such a dry cycle), get something like inhibit-e or a legit pharma ai.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    If you were gonna drop something, drop the arimistane... its almost useless. If you need an ai (and you really should have one after such a dry cycle), get something like inhibit-e or a legit pharma ai.
    This. I would drop the DAA as well. I would instead add a natural ababolic to help with libido, strength, etc. AlphaMax XT and M-Test are good options.
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  4. Thanks for the replies. So ill pick up some Inhibit-e and M-test. Should I run the inhibit-e the same way I was going to run the arimistane? And keep the lean xtreme as it is?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Thanks for the replies. So ill pick up some Inhibit-e and M-test. Should I run the inhibit-e the same way I was going to run the arimistane? And keep the lean xtreme as it is?
    Actually I would flip the layouts.

    Start the inhibit e immediately post cycle (or no later than week 2) and run a week or two past your serm. Start the LX in week 2 or 3 and run out past serm as well
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  6. Run Reduce XT over Lean Xtreme. It's the superior cortisol control supplement.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Actually I would flip the layouts.

    Start the inhibit e immediately post cycle (or no later than week 2) and run a week or two past your serm. Start the LX in week 2 or 3 and run out past serm as well
    Cool, thanks a lot man.

    So will be
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Inhibit e 0/3/2/2/1/1
    LX 0/3/3/3/3 (already have this on hand or would get reduce xt)
    M-test recommended dosage
    And maybe DAA too 3g

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Cool, thanks a lot man.

    So will be
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Inhibit e 0/3/2/2/1/1
    LX 0/3/3/3/3 (already have this on hand or would get reduce xt)
    M-test recommended dosage
    And maybe DAA too 3g
    that's a solid pct. only other thing I ever add is some natural anabolic but that's only if you've got extra $.

    For me, my mentality is to add as much as I can afford simply because anything i can do to help ensure that i keep or further any gains I made while on cycle (i.e stressing my body to the max and potentially risking any sides, short or long term) im gonna do.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    If you were gonna drop something, drop the arimistane... its almost useless. If you need an ai (and you really should have one after such a dry cycle), get something like inhibit-e or a legit pharma ai.
    Why is arimistane useless?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Why is arimistane useless?
    Originally it was thought to be a decent ai but that has since been proven false. It's cortisol control properties are also far less than something like LX or reduce xt so in this case, it's pretty much just wasting money.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Originally it was thought to be a decent ai but that has since been proven false. It's cortisol control properties are also far less than something like LX or reduce xt so in this case, it's pretty much just wasting money.
    Thanks for the info. Iíve been away from the forum for a few years and wasnít aware of new info about arimistane...do you happen to know where I might find that information? Was there a study done or is it based on blood work from forum members? Genuinely curious.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Finishing a epi-10, epiandro stack the end of the week.

    Epi 0/20/20/30/30/30
    Epiandro 600//600/700/700/700/700

    Is my pct overkill?

    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3g
    Lean xtreme 3/3/3/3
    Arimistane 0/0/3/2/2/1

    Should I drop the lean xtreme? Too much cortisol control?
    neither Epi or Epiandro aromatize, right?

    if that's correct, I don't think you'll need an AI in PCT. I agree about dropping that and the DAA.

    personally, I'd just go with a SERM and make sure you're getting enough zinc, magnesium and vit D.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Thanks for the info. I’ve been away from the forum for a few years and wasn’t aware of new info about arimistane...do you happen to know where I might find that information? Was there a study done or is it based on blood work from forum members? Genuinely curious.
    im pretty sure both... on mobile so no clue where to point you though but its basically common knowledge at this point
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by CatSnake View Post
    neither Epi or Epiandro aromatize, right?

    if that's correct, I don't think you'll need an AI in PCT. I agree about dropping that and the DAA.

    personally, I'd just go with a SERM and make sure you're getting enough zinc, magnesium and vit D.
    neither do, but epistane actually is a mild ai and can cause rebound estro issues which is why you DO want an ai in pct.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    im pretty sure both... on mobile so no clue where to point you though but its basically common knowledge at this point
    Iíve looked around for a while and couldnít really find any specifics saying it is a poor AI besides it just being weaker on a per-mg basis vs. aromasin. I know personally 100-150 mg arimistane per day has saved me from gyno flares on cycle similar to 2.5 mg letro or even nolva.

  16. Why’s everyone against DAA?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Whyís everyone against DAA?
    Doesnít increase T reliably and if it does it only is for a few weeks. And in my case it even lowered my T. Went from 750 to 550

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Why’s everyone against DAA?
    For me it actually did more harm than good... had some sides from it that just were not worth any minor benefit it might have had.

    Also, theres at least 1 study showing that if you already have healthy t levels, it can actually lower them.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Why’s everyone against DAA?
    it can raise prolactin.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Cool, thanks a lot man.

    So will be
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Inhibit e 0/3/2/2/1/1
    LX 0/3/3/3/3 (already have this on hand or would get reduce xt)
    M-test recommended dosage
    And maybe DAA too 3g
    This PCT is solid as hell!
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  21. Thank you everyone for the info on DAA. I dropped that from pct. I’m on day 2 and experiencing some joint pain. Right now taking 20mg nolva, m-test, multi-v, fish oil, and creatine. Is this joint pain a normal side from nolva? Or is my estro still low from epi? Didn’t feel this bad on cycle however

  22. Always drop the DAA... its the worst supplement ever

    hardly does anything for Test... and could supress test if dosed improperly

    Also shown to increase prolactin

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Drolball View Post
    Thank you everyone for the info on DAA. I dropped that from pct. I’m on day 2 and experiencing some joint pain. Right now taking 20mg nolva, m-test, multi-v, fish oil, and creatine. Is this joint pain a normal side from nolva? Or is my estro still low from epi? Didn’t feel this bad on cycle however
    Naw probably not the nolva. Probably your body just adjusting. When your hormones fluctuate, weird **** happens.
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  24. Sup guys, thought I’d give an update on how everything is going.

    Finished the nolva on Wednesday, running another week of inhibit-e at 1 cap.

    Everything was going good through pct. boys came back, libido was increasing, mood and energy were good. Now almost a week off the serm, I have very low libido/weak erections, low mood, and low motivation. On the upside, I’ve lost very little strength and muscle.

    I plan on getting blood work in a month but I’ve been worrying the last few days. My boys have lost a little size since stopping the nolva as well. Any advice would be appreciated.

  25. Do you have any nolva left? You could run 10 daily for another 2-4 weeks if you have to. Might just need more time for your axis to be stable on its own
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