If you were gonna drop something, drop the arimistane... its almost useless. If you need an ai (and you really should have one after such a dry cycle), get something like inhibit-e or a legit pharma ai.
This. I would drop the DAA as well. I would instead add a natural ababolic to help with libido, strength, etc. AlphaMax XT and M-Test are good options.
Actually I would flip the layouts.
Cool, thanks a lot man.
that's a solid pct. only other thing I ever add is some natural anabolic but that's only if you've got extra $.
Why is arimistane useless?
Originally it was thought to be a decent ai but that has since been proven false. It's cortisol control properties are also far less than something like LX or reduce xt so in this case, it's pretty much just wasting money.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been away from the forum for a few years and wasn’t aware of new info about arimistane...do you happen to know where I might find that information? Was there a study done or is it based on blood work from forum members? Genuinely curious.
neither Epi or Epiandro aromatize, right?
im pretty sure both... on mobile so no clue where to point you though but its basically common knowledge at this point
neither do, but epistane actually is a mild ai and can cause rebound estro issues which is why you DO want an ai in pct.
I’ve looked around for a while and couldn’t really find any specifics saying it is a poor AI besides it just being weaker on a per-mg basis vs. aromasin. I know personally 100-150 mg arimistane per day has saved me from gyno flares on cycle similar to 2.5 mg letro or even nolva.
Doesn’t increase T reliably and if it does it only is for a few weeks. And in my case it even lowered my T. Went from 750 to 550
For me it actually did more harm than good... had some sides from it that just were not worth any minor benefit it might have had.
it can raise prolactin.
This PCT is solid as hell!
Naw probably not the nolva. Probably your body just adjusting. When your hormones fluctuate, weird **** happens.
It was 4 weeks of Nolva 20/20/10/10. I also used m-test, LX (I finished this wednesday), inhibit-e (I'm still running till next wednesday). I thought it was too early to get bloodwork? I've read one month minimum.
That makes me feel way better. Low estrogen could be the problem. I have achy/cracking joints, sleep hasn’t been great, fatigue, irritability, and night sweats along with the low libido. Would you recommend stopping the inhibit at this point? And just let my body return to homeostasis on its own
See it's a tricky situation because the low estrogen could very well be from low testosterone (i.e., not high enough test levels to aromatize in sufficient amounts), or it could be isolated and your test is in the normal range. The issue is that AIs also keep test levels higher than they would be at otherwise, like serms in that regard. Id say do what makes sense for you in terms of quality of life. You don't have much time left with the inhibit-E, if I were you id just finish the bottle, cause otherwise you'll just have a bottle 1/4 full and collecting dust. Id say order some more nolva or even clomid and use either for 4 weeks just to get you back to how you felt before stopping the nolva. You could also just wait it out but Id get some ASAP in case you decide you want to restart it after trying to be off everything for a few weeks.
Okay so I'll finish the inhibit, and I just ordered some clomid. If I don't feel any improvement by the time it comes in I'll just start it. I'll do 4 weeks at 50/50/25/25. Should I get another AI when tapering?
Play it by ear with the clomid dose. You might be able to get away with just 25 throughout since you’ll be more recovered than not. My good friend almost doubled his test levels with 25 clomid and a tiny dose of letro twice a week. It’s always good to have an AI around to be honest but I doubt you’ll need it
Cool will start at 25 and go from there. Thanks a lot man, appreciate it.
why would it be too early for bloodwork? you're already off the Nolva.... either it worked or it didn't.
You don't need to wait a month after discontinuing a SERM to get bloods. Get them 2 weeks after, that should be plenty of time to let it leave you system.
Hey man wanted to get your opinion again. So I’ve been taking the Clomid for 4 weeks at 25/25/12.5/12.5. I dropped because I was feeling recovered.
Get a blood test.
At this point id just stay on the clomid dose and get blood work and see where you are. It may be hard to gauge estrogen levels at this point because some fat gain could be from simply being off cycle and your body isn't as anabolic as it was before. Recovery is different for everyone obviously, but you need to get some objective measures at this point. Don't sweat being on a serm or AI while getting the bloodwork. It can still be interpreted in its proper context and you can make adjustments from there.
