Low libido still after two weeks of Clomid

[dreamcrusher]

I did a 12 week cycle of OL Ostarine at 25mg and started pct of Clomid at 50mg along with OL Super PCT for last two weeks. I also had a two week supply of Primeval Mega Test that I through to get things going to no avail.

Plan was to do 50/50/25/25 of Clomid and Super PCT but am now concerned because libido is still low (it wasn't before I started the cycle).

I know people are going to say get labs but I want to wait till the end of pct before I go that route and want to take care of it so I don't even have to go there.

Couldn't find any Alphamax XT so I ordered some BLR Viron to see if this will help.

Also, been feeling emotional while on Clomid (blows).

Anything else I can add or do?

 

[BlockBuilder]

This is something that I rarely see mentioned yet I've seen many guys testify and talked to quite a few people that will tell you clomid and nolvadex destroyed their libido making it non existent. Because of that possibility labs are the best way to go. An AI might help in the libido department if you're not using one

 

[BamBam0319]

I don't know if it's actually the SERMs that kill your libido or more so the fact that you are suppressed from your cycle still and your body is recovering it's natural hormone production, which is the source of your libido.
I'd personally give it a few more weeks before getting concerned about it. I'm in week 4 of PCT and my sex drive is just now starting to come back some.

 

[Jebrook]

I don't know if it's actually the SERMs that kill your libido or more so the fact that you are suppressed from your cycle still and your body is recovering it's natural hormone production, which is the source of your libido.
I'd personally give it a few more weeks before getting concerned about it. I'm in week 4 of PCT and my sex drive is just now starting to come back some.

^^^This is likely the cause of libido issues IMO rather than a SERM. HPTA restart and homeostasis is often not achieved in only 4 weeks. This is why adequate time off is so important.

 

[dreamcrusher]

So should i stay the course at 50/50/25/25 or just 50 across the board?

 

[BamBam0319]

So should i stay the course at 50/50/25/25 or just 50 across the board?

Stick with the plan. If at the end of the 4th week you still don't feel recovered, or you get bloodwork done that shows you aren't back to normal yet, you can extend your PCT and run extra weeks at 25mg daily or you could even drop down to 12.5mg daily. Sometimes, and I think I will do it this time as well, for the 5th and 6th week I take 25-35mg EOD instead of every day.

 

[booneman77]

Agreed with the guys above... stick with the plan. I've had totally different reactions in pct as far as libido goes almost every cycle. sometimes it comes back in days, sometimes weeks, once it was almost 2 months+... one thing I've found that helps (or can if there is an issue) is to control cortisol and prolactin as well. using either something like inhibit p or a simple l-dopa product can help with the prolactin and reduce xt is my go-to for any pct as my cort control.

personally i have prolactin issues almost every pct so thats always been something i have to watch. the cortisol is especially important if you are or were cutting as that can exacerbate the cortisol issues that come from any hormonal changes.

 

[criticalbench]

Lol after 2 weeks and your worried, dear lord. My libido doesn't recover for 8-12 weeks at times depending on what i run. I never even think about it until the 3 month mark. It took over 6 months with trest and a lot of hcg.

 

[Dma378]

Lol after 2 weeks and your worried, dear lord. My libido doesn't recover for 8-12 weeks at times depending on what i run. I never even think about it until the 3 month mark. It took over 6 months with trest and a lot of hcg.

Last time I pct'ed, 6 weeks of Clomid didn't bring it back. Went for 2 more weeks and still nothing. So yeah, 2 weeks is a bit too soon to panic. As stated stay the course man.

Age, cycle history, and cycle intensity are all major factors. While Osta is mild, 12 weeks at 25mg is a pretty intense Osta cycle.

Also not sure if your Clomid is tabs or RC, but I have found that 25mg tabs are all I need to achieve the results without the emotional sides.

 

[NurseGray]

I agree. I would wait at least 5-6 weeks before showing any minor concern. Your body needs time to recover.

 

[dreamcrusher]

Thanks for all of the input fellas.

After reading a lot of the posts, it seemed that the majority of people were recovering and feeling better at the two week mark so I assumed it wouldn't take long but damn, 3 months is a long time to recover.

I ordered the Reduce XT and the Inhibit-P so hopefully these things will help, along with the Viron.

Also, the Clomid I'm taking is 25mg tabs.

 

[warbird01]

Thanks for all of the input fellas.

After reading a lot of the posts, it seemed that the majority of people were recovering and feeling better at the two week mark so I assumed it wouldn't take long but damn, 3 months is a long time to recover.

I ordered the Reduce XT and the Inhibit-P so hopefully these things will help, along with the Viron.

Also, the Clomid I'm taking is 25mg tabs.

Good choice of products. It sounds to me as if your body is just recovering rather than the SERM screwing up your libido. Taking exogenous hormones will mess with you, no matter how "safe" you run them.

 

[criticalbench]

Good choice of products. It sounds to me as if your body is just recovering rather than the SERM screwing up your libido. Taking exogenous hormones will mess with you, no matter how "safe" you run them.

Yup, supports can only do so much and sometimes it is not enough.

 

[M.I.D]

I am like this for weeks, it takes time for everything to get back to normal

 

[dreamcrusher]

Been doing some research and apparently Clomid kills your libido while in PCT, it just helps to stimulate the hpga faster so that your testes recover.

Read that HCG should be used in combo with the Clomid so that your libido doesn't crash while in pct but have no experience with this. Anyone have have any experience with this?

Also began taking taking PES Erase at 3 tabs a day along with the other stuff. Do you guys see any problem with this?

 

[BamBam0319]

Been doing some research and apparently Clomid kills your libido while in PCT, it just helps to stimulate the hpga faster so that your testes recover.

Read that HCG should be used in combo with the Clomid so that your libido doesn't crash while in pct but have no experience with this. Anyone have have any experience with this?

Also began taking taking PES Erase at 3 tabs a day along with the other stuff. Do you guys see any problem with this?

I see a problem with wherever you're getting your info from.
You run HCG before the clomid. Not in conjunction with it. And it's not the clomid that's killing your libido. It's the crash in hormone levels. The clomid slowly brings it back up which in turn slowly brings your libido back up. Just like everyone's been saying throughout this whole thread

 

[dreamcrusher]

I see a problem with wherever you're getting your info from.
You run HCG before the clomid. Not in conjunction with it. And it's not the clomid that's killing your libido. It's the crash in hormone levels. The clomid slowly brings it back up which in turn slowly brings your libido back up. Just like everyone's been saying throughout this whole thread

Got it. Yeah like I said I don't have any experience with the HCG that's why I put out there.

What's weird is that my libido was ok before i went into pct, I emphasize l"ok"cause I could still get aroused but it was definitely higher before I started the cycle, and as soon as I stared pct, bam, gone.

 

[BamBam0319]

Got it. Yeah like I said I don't have any experience with the HCG that's why I put out there.

What's weird is that my libido was ok before i went into pct, I emphasize l"ok"cause I could still get aroused but it was definitely higher before I started the cycle, and as soon as I stared pct, bam, gone.

Yep that's because your levels are low AND you're no longer on the SARM before. So your libido will be low until your bring your natural levels back up

 

[criticalbench]

Been doing some research and apparently Clomid kills your libido while in PCT, it just helps to stimulate the hpga faster so that your testes recover.

Read that HCG should be used in combo with the Clomid so that your libido doesn't crash while in pct but have no experience with this. Anyone have have any experience with this?

Also began taking taking PES Erase at 3 tabs a day along with the other stuff. Do you guys see any problem with this?

HCG shuts you down, so you wouldn't want to run it with clomid bro.

 

[warbird01]

Tongkat Ali and Bulbine are my favorite libido supps but sounds to me like it is a temporary thing you just need to wait out.

 

[dreamcrusher]

Tongkat Ali and Bulbine are my favorite libido supps but sounds to me like it is a temporary thing you just need to wait out.

Yeah have to wait it out, it blows. Trying to figure out how this can be avoided in future cycles, if that.

Is there a supp that has both of things in it?

 

[warbird01]

Yeah have to wait it out, it blows. Trying to figure out how this can be avoided in future cycles, if that.

Is there a supp that has both of things in it?

I don't think there is, but they are both pretty cheap. SNS makes a bulbine product for $18: https://nutraplanet.com/products/sns-bulbine-capsules-350-mg/

I bought bulk Tongkat Ali on powder city for $22 shipped and it's around 200 doses.

 

[criticalbench]

I don't think there is, but they are both pretty cheap. SNS makes a bulbine product for $18: https://nutraplanet.com/products/sns-bulbine-capsules-350-mg/

I bought bulk Tongkat Ali on powder city for $22 shipped and it's around 200 doses.

How do you like there tongkat ali bro.. curious. I have a few of there powders that are legit.

 

[dreamcrusher]

So just give you guys an update.

Taking the Inhibit-P, Reduce XT, and Erase and Viron with no differences, yet.

Mood swings and emotions on Clomid suck, probably not going to run it ever again.

Just a waiting a game. Thinking of just ending pct at three weeks.

 

[BamBam0319]

So just give you guys an update.

Taking the Inhibit-P, Reduce XT, and Erase and Viron with no differences, yet.

Mood swings and emotions on Clomid suck, probably not going to run it ever again.

Just a waiting a game. Thinking of just ending pct at three weeks.

I would pull through the full 4 weeks at the very least dude

 

[Toren]

So just give you guys an update.

Taking the Inhibit-P, Reduce XT, and Erase and Viron with no differences, yet.

Mood swings and emotions on Clomid suck, probably not going to run it ever again.

Just a waiting a game. Thinking of just ending pct at three weeks.

Ending your PCT now would not be a wise decision. What if your body is struggling to recover but is headed in the right direction? Would you be happy if you stopped your PCT and then recovery took 6 months?

A couple of notes...

While all of the supplements that have been suggested here are quality products, you shouldn't need to buy anything else (beyond what you've already purchased)....if your Clomid is legit; You are taking more than enough supplements right now. I know you said you wanted to wait until after PCT to get bloodwork done but now might be a better time. The bloodwork would actually tell you where things stand, instead of guessing and throwing a very expensive kitchen sink at the problem; Maybe your Estrogen levels are above range.. It would be better to wait until 4 weeks (as 2+ weeks is not much time into PCT) but for the sake of a realitively inexpensive private lab, you might consider it now or in a week or so. I agree with everyone else though. 2 weeks is not nearly enough time for some people to recover or even begin to recover. We ALL respond differently to hormonal fluctuations.

Also, I would try Nolva in the future, as opposed to Clomid. I respond much better to Nolva solo than I do to Clomid solo. Personally though, I run both Nolva and Clomid for all of my PCTs now.

 

[dreamcrusher]

Ending your PCT now would not be a wise decision. What if your body is struggling to recover but is headed in the right direction? Would you be happy if you stopped your PCT and then recovery took 6 months?

A couple of notes...

While all of the supplements that have been suggested here are quality products, you shouldn't need to buy anything else (beyond what you've already purchased)....if your Clomid is legit; You are taking more than enough supplements right now. I know you said you wanted to wait until after PCT to get bloodwork done but now might be a better time. The bloodwork would actually tell you where things stand, instead of guessing and throwing a very expensive kitchen sink at the problem; Maybe your Estrogen levels are above range.. It would be better to wait until 4 weeks (as 2+ weeks is not much time into PCT) but for the sake of a realitively inexpensive private lab, you might consider it now or in a week or so. I agree with everyone else though. 2 weeks is not nearly enough time for some people to recover or even begin to recover. We ALL respond differently to hormonal fluctuations.

Also, I would try Nolva in the future, as opposed to Clomid. I respond much better to Nolva solo than I do to Clomid solo. Personally though, I run both Nolva and Clomid for all of my PCTs now.

Ok thanks. I really appreciate the input.

 

[criticalbench]

So just give you guys an update.

Taking the Inhibit-P, Reduce XT, and Erase and Viron with no differences, yet.

Mood swings and emotions on Clomid suck, probably not going to run it ever again.

Just a waiting a game. Thinking of just ending pct at three weeks.

Again, wtf? Stop thinking.. its been 3 weeks. Shut your brain down lol.. sometimes pct takes 8-12 weeks. Everyone is different. I recovery fast sometimes and slow other times with the same hormones. Its life, our body is not a machine that behaves the same every time.

 

[Smont]

Your recovering relax, get some cialis for a temporary boost and finish the clomid. Its part of the game. Im lucky I get through it pretty easy but its not abnormal for that to happen

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I didn't get my sex drive back until a good month+ after my pct following up an epistane cycle, so it might just take a bit of waiting but bloods are still a good idea

 

[BamBam0319]

My hammer pills help. Caps containing a combo of viagra cialis and levitra. Boneriffic.

 

[criticalbench]

Your recovering relax, get some cialis for a temporary boost and finish the clomid. Its part of the game. Im lucky I get through it pretty easy but its not abnormal for that to happen

Agreed.

 

[migseattle]

Good thread, it's great to hear everybody's perspectives. I'm going through the exact same thing as the OP. Just finished my 4-week PCT after an 8-week LGD cycle that tanked my test (it was in the 70's at the end). My PCT was Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. Just as the OP said, my libido was OK throughout the cycle and *poof* gone shortly after starting PCT. And it's still not back. I do get random erections during the night and the occasional morning wood so it looks like the "plumbing" works - it's just that I'm completely uninterested in sex and can't get aroused. Very weird feeling.

I did try Cialis last week as someone suggested above. It didn't help. I don't think it's erection problems, it's the part of the sex drive that makes you *want* sex which is missing for me.

One more observation, I did bloods this week and my test surely recovered with the Clomid and Nolva! It came back at 930. I expect to come down somewhat now that I've stopped the SERMs so I'll check again in another month or so.

 

[dreamcrusher]

Good thread, it's great to hear everybody's perspectives. I'm going through the exact same thing as the OP. Just finished my 4-week PCT after an 8-week LGD cycle that tanked my test (it was in the 70's at the end). My PCT was Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. Just as the OP said, my libido was OK throughout the cycle and *poof* gone shortly after starting PCT. And it's still not back. I do get random erections during the night and the occasional morning wood so it looks like the "plumbing" works - it's just that I'm completely uninterested in sex and can't get aroused. Very weird feeling.

I did try Cialis last week as someone suggested above. It didn't help. I don't think it's erection problems, it's the part of the sex drive that makes you *want* sex which is missing for me.

One more observation, I did bloods this week and my test surely recovered with the Clomid and Nolva! It came back at 930. I expect to come down somewhat now that I've stopped the SERMs so I'll check again in another month or so.

I had my test checked 2 months after pct and after taking some natty test boosters and it came back at 730, which is high but drive was still not there, it is now just barely coming back. Bad experience for me at least.

 

[Smont]

Im not sure how i got notified about this thread. One min my nephew was playing poke mon go on the phone and next he handed me the phone and was on anabolic minds at a low libido thread lol

 

[migseattle]

I had my test checked 2 months after pct and after taking some natty test boosters and it came back at 730, which is high but drive was still not there, it is now just barely coming back. Bad experience for me at least.

How long ago was your PCT?

 

[migseattle]

Im not sure how i got notified about this thread. One min my nephew was playing poke mon go on the phone and next he handed me the phone and was on anabolic minds at a low libido thread lol

I think there's something your nephew is not telling you

 

[Smont]

Hes 4. Prepared for his first cycle in 20 years

 

[7eman7]

Dude you are only 2 weeks into pct lol. Wait until you finish your pct then see how your libido is. How was the osta cycle? Any side effects?

 

[7eman7]

Just realized this thread is 4 months old... How did recovery go OP?

 

[dreamcrusher]

Just realized this thread is 4 months old... How did recovery go OP?

Ended up doing a 6 week PCT since I was still not normal at 4 weeks but by the end of the 6 wk pct libido was still f**ked up.

 

[warbird01]

So is your libido still down?

 

[dreamcrusher]

Yes but it's slowly coming back after taking all kinds of s**t. As of late I've been taking Fenugreek and that has helped more than I expected.

 

[warbird01]

Yes but it's slowly coming back after taking all kinds of s**t. As of late I've been taking Fenugreek and that has helped more than I expected.

Did you ever try tongkat ali or bulbine?

 

[7eman7]

Libido is a strange thing when it comes to hormones. I honestly feel it is more dependent on your mental state more than anything and guys can have low test and still have no issues with libido... i know it sounds odd but consider looking into meditation and calming the mind. Mental stress is one of if not THE biggest libido killer imo.

 

[dreamcrusher]

Yup, bought Viron but didn't try the bulbine. Didn't feel anything with the Viron.

 

[M.I.D]

It takes time, sometimes 6 months

 

[Steazy]

It's a bit of a stretch but maybe try ashwagandha. It's cheap and if the low libido is stemming from a mental issue, the ashwagandha may help as it helps with reducing stress

 

[vvs002]

anyone selling clomid and exemstane?

 

[warbird01]

anyone selling clomid and exemstane?

look at the banners on this forum lol