Toremifene dosage

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How would you dose toremifene if you had 2g of it?
 
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2 grams aint gonna do much.
Not necessarily. He wont be able to do the standard 120/90/60/30. However he could do 90/90/60/30 which i think would be effective. The 90/90/60/30 dosing would definitely be sufficient if he is using with an other serm(like clomid or nolva) like most people do. I do think that it would be sufficient even if he didnt stack it with an other serm. However i have not personally used torem. I am just going off of what i have seen and heard from what other people have said. A lot of people think torem might be the best serm for restarting their hpta. However clomid has the most research behind it and proving it does work.
 
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How long was op on for and wat did he run ? I know it would suck to run out b4 pct completes
 
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How long was op on for and wat did he run ? I know it would suck to run out b4 pct completes
True i see what your saying. Ya op i think we do nee more information from you to truly help you help
 
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True i see what your saying. Ya op i think we do nee more information from you to truly help you help
Yeah i was wonderingif he had gyno or used 19nors excessively. .. i did hear torem is awesome . I stick to clom or nolva
 
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Yeah i was wonderingif he had gyno or used 19nors excessively. .. i did hear torem is awesome . I stick to clom or nolva
Ya and i see why you want to stick with clomid and nolva. They have been around forever, less often faked, and are more proven with studies done on them(however i haven't seen a study done on nolva for resatring hpta like i have with clomid) and have decades of user feedback on forums like this.

However i don't think torem has a negative interaction with 19nor cycle like nolva does??
 
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Ya and i would see why you want to stick with clomid and nolva. They have been around forever, less often faked, and are more proven with studies done on them(however i haven't seen a study done on nolva for resatring hpta like i have with clomid) and have decades of user feedback on forums like this.
Nolva blocks estrogen at the receptors forcing the pituitary gland activity to create laydig cells which create testosterone in the testes . The body sense lack of e creates more t . Ive heard nolva works better than clomid bit from personal experience i disagree. ..
 
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Nolva blocks estrogen at the receptors forcing the pituitary gland activity to create laydig cells which create testosterone in the testes . The body sense lack of e creates more t . Ive heard nolva works better than clomid bit from personal experience i disagree. ..
Ya i know how it works. I just haven't seen studies on nolva for restating hpta like i have for clomid. Plus there is a reason why clomid is given out by fertility clinics and is used for trt(in spurts) and nolva isn't.
 
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petya1234 rtmilburn Tamoxifen Citrate is a SERM with both estrogen agonist and antagonist properties. As an anti-estrogen, Nolvadex functions by binding to the estrogen receptors in the place of estrogen. This binding prevents the estrogen hormone from performing its action in certain parts of the body, which is precisely why it’s beneficial to breast cancer patients. Many forms of breast cancer actually feed off estrogen when it attaches to the receptors in the chest. By preventing the attachment in such receptors, this also protects anabolic steroid users from gynecomastia, which can be caused by anabolic steroids that aromatize such as Testosterone, Dianabol, and Nandrolone and Boldenone to a degree.

While primarily viewed as an anti-estrogen, Nolvadex also has the ability to act as estrogen, specifically in the liver. This presents a benefit as estrogenic activity in the liver has been linked to healthier cholesterol levels. For the steroid user, this can be extremely beneficial as many anabolic steroids tend to have an adverse effect on cholesterol. More on this when we look at the direct effects of Nolvadex later on.

Although primarily an anti-estrogen, Nolvadex also possess strong testosterone stimulating characteristics. Nolvadex has the ability to block the negative feedback that is brought on by estrogen at the hypothalamus and pituitary. As a result, this stimulates an enhanced release by the pituitary of Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH). Both LH and FSH are essential to natural testosterone production. Without LH and FSH, with an even stronger emphasis on LH, there is no natural testosterone production.

For the anabolic steroid user, the primary effect of Nolvadex on cycle is in the prevention of gynecomastia. Nolvadex does not appear to have a strong effect in preventing the other primary estrogenic effect in water retention, but this can often be controlled in other ways. As for gynecomastia protection, this can be enough for many men and should be your first choice if it can get the job done. If not, you will need an AI like Arimidex (Anastrozole) or Femara (Letrozole). However, AI’s can have a negative effect on cholesterol. Alone AI’s do not appear to have a strong, negative effect, but when coupled with an aromatizing steroid this effect appears to be exasperated. Cholesterol can be controlled with the use of an AI, but if it can get the job done a SERM like Nolvadex should be your first choice. As an added bonus, remember this SERM will have a positive impact on your cholesterol levels.

The final effect of Nolvadex represents the most valuable one for the anabolic steroid user. The use of anabolic steroids will suppress natural testosterone production. The rate of suppression will be dependent on the steroid(s) being used, but in most cases, it will be significant. Once the use of anabolic steroids comes to an end, assuming the individual did not suffer from a prior low testosterone condition and did not damage his Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis (HPTA) through improper practices, natural testosterone production will begin again. This natural production will begin on its own, however, there is a problem. Once you come off cycle your natural testosterone levels will be extremely low and while production will begin again they will remain low for a very long time. It will take months and months for the body to fully recover its prior high natural testosterone levels. In fact, it could take up to a year or more depending on the harshness of the cycle and the individual’s general dispositions. This means the individual will be in a state of low testosterone for quite some time, and that can come with a host of bothersome symptoms. This condition can include all the symptoms associated with low testosterone. Further, with testosterone levels low, the individual may very well lose a lot of muscle tissue gained through steroid use as cortisol becomes the dominant hormone in the body.

Due to the low testosterone issues after a cycle of anabolic steroids, most men are encouraged to implement a PCT plan that includes Nolvadex post anabolic steroid use. Solid PCT plans often contain Nolvadex as well as the SERM Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate) and the powerful peptide hormone HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin). By implementing this PCT plan, you will greatly stimulate natural testosterone production, speed up the recovery process and greatly protect your physique. Once the PCT plan comes to an end, contrary to popular belief your testosterone levels will not be resting at their normal high level state. Total recovery will still take a lot of time. However, a PCT plan that includes Nolvadex will ensure you have enough testosterone for proper bodily function while your levels continue to naturally rise.

There are many performance enhancing athletes that scoff at PCT plans, and there is a time to forgo them. If you’re only going to be off cycle for a short period of time, say 4-6 weeks or are cruising on a low testosterone dose between full blown cycles, there is no logical reason for a PCT plan. Such scenarios are very common in hardcore bodybuilding circles but they are not realistic for most anabolic steroid users. Most steroid users will take a fair amount of time off cycle, and in the name of health and wellbeing this is the best approach. If this is the case, there is no logical reason for forgoing PCT, and we can guarantee those that implement it will be far better off. Read this it will teach u alot ive read it so much i can probably recite it lol
 
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Ya and i see why you want to stick with clomid and nolva. They have been around forever, less often faked, and are more proven with studies done on them(however i haven't seen a study done on nolva for resatring hpta like i have with clomid) and have decades of user feedback on forums like this.

However i don't think torem has a negative interaction with 19nor cycle like nolva does??
Possibly
 

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Thanks for the replies guys, I ran just Ostarine for 20days.
 

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I'd stick to Torem since the source is reputable, and according to recommendations and researches it is just as effective as Nolvadex.
 
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I'd stick to Torem since the source is reputable, and according to recommendations and researches it is just as effective as Nolvadex.
Good luck man !!!keep us posted on your progress.
 

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