DMZ 6 week cycle pct options ! (Serm) a given

[metallifter87]

Wats up gunna do a 6 week cycle of Dmz for pct I have
Clomid that I will be running
But to maintain the gains

Here are the options I'm considering

Blackstone labs tetra plexx pct?( I read it does contain ostarine)

black lion research Rebirth?

DAA

And E control


Any input welcome?

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Rebirth is E control. Rebirth/Viron is a good stack. I would honestly skip out on the DAA but that's just because personally I don't like using it at all.
Another one would be AlphaMax;
Alphamax contains a full 50mg of 95% Forskolin, high percent extract so you shouldnt get any stomach upset! activates cAMP pathways
Also has a full 75mg arimistane to control both estrogen and cortisol, helping to lean you out while adding lean mass which is perfect for pct
And to round it out, Alphamax also contains Divanill + L-DOPA, perfect 1-2 punch for both Free and Total testosterone and to help reduce prolactin
And of course it contains full 4000iu of Vitamin D3 and Zinc for testosterone support.

Lastly you could also use Test Factor by Molecular Nutrition

 

[Driven2lift]

http://orbitnutrition.com/cart/purus-labs/

Recycle + Dpol is a good combo too,

As are the options listed above

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Clomid, food, rest, training smart is the best combo imo. Additional things like DAA is just gravy, SNS has bulk daa if you are looking to use.

 

[metallifter87]

Alright I'm thinking of just goin with 4 weeks of

Blackstone pct IV
Rebirth
And eradicate after

 

[metallifter87]

My question take eradicate after the 4weeks of clomid, Rebirth ,BSL IV, or during?

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

My question take eradicate after the 4weeks of clomid, Rebirth ,BSL IV, or during?

take it after, rebirth should be enough and no need to stack another thing onto AI

 

[metallifter87]

Ok got ya I think I'm going to stack BSL pct IV, BLR rebirth and than the eradicate after. Anything u guys can reccomend to help keep the size and strength ? Xgels, dermastrength?

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Ok got ya I think I'm going to stack BSL pct IV, BLR rebirth and than the eradicate after. Anything u guys can reccomend to help keep the size and strength ? Xgels, dermastrength?

it will ultimately depend on you're diet and workout intensity. Don't drop volume as you go into pct because that is telling your body that you don't need the muscle.

 

[metallifter87]

Exactly my goal is to push to the max and continue to make gains

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

I would say xgels or dermastrength would be a nice addition, if you have the funds. There's no need to spend hundreds upon hundreds on pct when you just have to up work ethic a little. Yes they will help but ultimately it's about you. You will always lose some btw, water/glycogen retention will always fall so don't be discouraged if the scale goes down

 

[metallifter87]

Ya that's what my main concern is how much of the gains I'll lose if the the Chelsea and dermastrength are beneficial and not just the gravy then I don't mind adding tgem. What's the most anybody has lost from a cycle like this during or after pct?

 

[LeanEngineer]

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/rebirth-by-black-lion-research
Above is a link to Rebirth at Strong Supplement Shop if you havent picked it up yet. i think that is a good product choice as well as running it with Blackstone pct IV and your clomid. Here are is another link to some daa products and info. Daa is cheap and a lot of ppl use it during their pct. I wouldnt say its a must have but its another good addition.
http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/d-aspartic-acid-daa-info

 

[Skottie]

Would I be able to run a Rebirth/Viron stack without Clomid and be ok? I dont have access to Clomid, Nolva, or any prescription meds like that. I have to do it the OTC way.

 

[metallifter87]

Well u should have clomid on hand just in case. But with brundels rebirth we will see what happens people are running pct logs to see how their blood tests are

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Would I be able to run a Rebirth/Viron stack without Clomid and be ok? I dont have access to Clomid, Nolva, or any prescription meds like that. I have to do it the OTC way.

not really. Rebirth/Viron is better than nothing but a SERM should be essential for all PCT or otherwise don't do the cycle.

 

[Smont]

With a 6 week dmz run you better look hard for that serm. Your risking a limp noodle and loss of all your gains pct. Risk to reward ratio is pretty lopsided.

 

[metallifter87]

I got the SERM clomid? But I wana see what rebirth is all about. R u saying 6 weeks is to long?

 

[Smont]

Not at all, just dont think you should play otc roulette. If you do please log so we can see how rebirth stacks up.

 

[metallifter87]

Ya exactly it's just killin me to see if rebirth is up to par or if it's just a natty test booster so I figure it's time to just figure it out

 

[Smont]

Bloodwork?

 

[metallifter87]

I plan on it

 

[Smont]

Sweet

 

[pracata]

I would include xgels in pct

 

[metallifter87]

What's the benefits of the gels?

 

[metallifter87]

What u guys think about running the blackstone labs pct IV tetraplexx with my pct?

 

[hvactech]

What u guys think about running the blackstone labs pct IV tetraplexx with my pct?

I would run 1 cap personally however many will say not to, you just tell em' to suck it!

 

[metallifter87]

Lol that's what I was thinking have u run 2 caps?

 

[metallifter87]

Started pct yesterday

-1 cap of BLR Rebirth am/1 cap pm
-1 cap of Blackstone labs Pct IV am
-1cap BLR Viron in the am
-1 cap formeron Am/1 cap pm

After 6 weeks I was feeling shutdown and lethargic upon waking up today I noticed I had a bit more energy

My libido seems to be a bit higher then usual. I had some activity down there when I woke up lol.

Again it's only day two could say it's placebo effect but I honestly think it may be starting to have its effects

 

[Smont]

Only way to know is bloodwork but heightend libido us always good. Keep us updated.

 

[metallifter87]

Ya I kno but seriously my whole energy And mood changed since yesterday still to early to tell

 

[Smont]

Just be careful it could be the viron and not your test levels. you can be shut down and get a hard on with viagra but that dont mean jack for recovery

 

[metallifter87]

Tru

 

[japneto]

Aloha everyone,

I am very new here, and I also have some questions. I am doing a Msten cycle and today is my 5th day. Until before the cycle, I was in a restrict diet and was super light. Weight 173 out of the 190lbs that I used to have. Since I started my cycle I started to eat better and ingesting way more calories. In 4 days, I weight myself at 183lbs. I am with a full stomach and will weight myself again as soon as I wake up with an empty stomach.


The question is about my PCT.

I have a Clomid and Novaldex on hands, and I need your help with the other supplements.

Quads_of_Stee, you said something about AlphaMax.

Are Clomid and Alphamax enough to keep up with my gains?.. or should I take Clomid+Rebirth for my first 4 weeks of PCT plus Eradicate from week 4 and on?

Much Mahalo!

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Aloha everyone,

I am very new here, and I also have some questions. I am doing a Msten cycle and today is my 5th day. Until before the cycle, I was in a restrict diet and was super light. Weight 173 out of the 190lbs that I used to have. Since I started my cycle I started to eat better and ingesting way more calories. In 4 days, I weight myself at 183lbs. I am with a full stomach and will weight myself again as soon as I wake up with an empty stomach.


The question is about my PCT.

I have a Clomid and Novaldex on hands, and I need your help with the other supplements.

Quads_of_Stee, you said something about AlphaMax.

Are Clomid and Alphamax enough to keep up with my gains?.. or should I take Clomid+Rebirth for my first 4 weeks of PCT plus Eradicate from week 4 and on?

Much Mahalo!

supplements do not dictate how much of your gains will be kept but do help to a degree. An otc AI/test booster like Rebirth, Viron, Alphamax, Eradicate all will help to a degree but it will all be dependent on your diet and training in the end.

 

[Smont]

The more you gain on cycle the more you need to eat post cycle. The pct will balance your hormones and put your body in the best position to keep your gains but you have to continue to work hard and eat enough calories to support your new bodyweight