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    What week to start AI in PCT


    I am pl anning on running and Msten/Trest 6 week cycle, I will be running Formasurge(Formestane) during because of estro sides... My question is what week do I start an AI in PCT? I always like running Erase in PCT so would be switching from Form to Erase be a still a good idea?

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    What week to start AI in PCT


    I would start in week 2 and do something like 3/2/2/1. Just make sure you ramp it down, how you ramp it down is up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    I am pl anning on running and Msten/Trest 6 week cycle, I will be running Formasurge(Formestane) during because of estro sides... My question is what week do I start an AI in PCT? I always like running Erase in PCT so would be switching from Form to Erase be a still a good idea?
    I love Formestane so I would stick with that but if you want to go with Erase make sure it is erase pro it looks like people are having better luck with that version. I think when you start an AI is somewhat a matter of preference warbird said week 2. I personally like to start mine week 3 so my pct runs at least 7 weeks.
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    Like Said before week 2 or 3 (depending on estro sides, which should be minimal with the formed tame)

    I like the inverse ramp (inverse to your serm) to not totally kill estro right away and hinder recovery

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    What effect would or negative results be if I ran Formasurge straight through cycle and into and through post cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    What effect would or negative results be if I ran Formasurge straight through cycle and into and through post cycle?
    With Trest in your cycle you might want to run the forma for the whole cycle and overlap pct at higher doses I have seen a few post about gyno on other boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    With Trest in your cycle you might want to run the forma for the whole cycle and overlap pct at higher doses I have seen a few post about gyno on other boards.
    Overlap pct at higher doses?
    Do you mean that in pct he should increase his forma dose or keep form the same but add a different AI like erase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    Overlap pct at higher doses?
    Do you mean that in pct he should increase his forma dose or keep form the same but add a different AI like erase?
    Well since Trestolone aromitizess to 7- alpha-methyl estradiol, which is considered a very potent estrogen it would be safest to run the AI from day one of the cycle all the way through pct. So to be safe I would run Formastane at a low dose like 50mg oral "I am not sure on transdermal dosing" then I would bump it up at the start of week 3 of pct to like 75 oral and taper down dropping 25mg per week after that week. so 75/50/50/25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Well since Trestolone aromitizess to 7- alpha-methyl estradiol, which is considered a very potent estrogen it would be safest to run the AI from day one of the cycle all the way through pct. So to be safe I would run Formastane at a low dose like 50mg oral "I am not sure on transdermal dosing" then I would bump it up at the start of week 3 of pct to like 75 oral and taper down dropping 25mg per week after that week. so 75/50/50/25.
    So you don't recommend keeping the form constant from cycle through pct and adding something like erase during pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    So you don't recommend keeping the form constant from cycle through pct and adding something like erase during pct?
    Bump for same question... Also since Formestane is suppressive should I switch in PCT to something like Erase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    Bump for same question... Also since Formestane is suppressive should I switch in PCT to something like Erase?
    I have seen this posted but with out seeing a study, blood work or hearing it from someone like PA I wouldn't lend the rumour much weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    I have seen this posted but with out seeing a study, blood work or hearing it from someone like PA I wouldn't lend the rumour much weight.
    I think diff individuals will get suppressed at diff rates, if you are using it in estro control dosages than it shouldn't be suppressive.
    I think people who use 2-3x the recommended dose will be more suppressed, but they would be looking for more conversion to the (can't remember the hormone it converts to) for anabolic effects

    IMO if using it at estro control doses, it shouldn't be suppressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    So you don't recommend keeping the form constant from cycle through pct and adding something like erase during pct?
    Still looking for answer on this one though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    Still looking for answer on this one though?
    Sorry missed this, yes and no I'd keep it at 50 until week 3 of 4 of pct it is hard to play guessing games when blood work would be best. So better safe then sorry and increase the AI as you start to lower the SERM. But of note would be the half life of most SERMs are incredible so end of week 3 would probable best time to increase AI use to control any estrogen rebound remember a SERM will increase total estrogen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    Sorry missed this, yes and no I'd keep it at 50 until week 3 of 4 of pct it is hard to play guessing games when blood work would be best. So better safe then sorry and increase the AI as you start to lower the SERM. But of note would be the half life of most SERMs are incredible so end of week 3 would probable best time to increase AI use to control any estrogen rebound remember a SERM will increase total estrogen.
    Yeah I think clomid half life is 5-7 days right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    Yeah I think clomid half life is 5-7 days right?
    Yes.
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    maybe try going with the erase for pct, but keep something stronger on hand just in case.
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