Was this PCT enough?

King Smegma

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18 weeks of test-e @ 600mg
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Adex 0.25mg EOD throughout
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5,000 i.u. HCG blast at end
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120/90/90/60/60 Toremifene (5 weeks at those mg doses)
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50 mg clomid 10 days
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25 mg clomid 20 days
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Do I need to continue the clomid?

I'll have no access to blood work for a long time; however, testicles seem nice and full/big/heavy and I am getting morning wood everyday. Also gaining more definition. Should I play it safe and just continue the clomid at 25mg for another 20 days? I ask because the acne from the clomid is really getting to me and I don't want to beat a dead horse.

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You should be good to go. Doesn't hurt to run clomid a little longer though. I wold only run it a week more.
 

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You should be good to go. Doesn't hurt to run clomid a little longer though. I wold only run it a week more.
I'm actually starting to believe that the clomid is improving so many areas of my health from what it was pre-cycle. If it wasn't for the acne I would stay on it indefinitely. Thanks for the swift and helpful reply; I'll stay on it for another week.
 
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18 weeks of test-e @ 600mg
I
Adex 0.25mg EOD throughout
I
5,000 i.u. HCG blast at end
I
120/90/90/60/60 Toremifene (5 weeks at those mg doses)
I
50 mg clomid 10 days
I
25 mg clomid 20 days
I
Do I need to continue the clomid?

I'll have no access to blood work for a long time; however, testicles seem nice and full/big/heavy and I am getting morning wood everyday. Also gaining more definition. Should I play it safe and just continue the clomid at 25mg for another 20 days? I ask because the acne from the clomid is really getting to me and I don't want to beat a dead horse.

:thanks:
How long did you wait after last pin to start pct?
 

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2 weeks. 4 days after the last pin and in the 10 days leading up to PCT i did 1,000 i.u. of HCG eod (will use it throughout next cycle, if there is a next time).

If this PCT was sufficient, one thing that I'd really like to know is whether it would be safe to play around with my calories now that my T levels are 'normal'? I am currently taking in about 350g of carbs, 300g protein (75g of which is the incomplete wheat protein in pasta) and 80g of fat (5' 9" 180lb 13%). I found that increasing calories during PCT resulted in unwanted fat gain. I don't want to hinder any muscular gains and so would like to maybe increase the carbs a bit if they seem a bit on the low side for post-PCT? Also found intermittent fasting impossible with low T levels, so would maybe like to start that again...
 
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2 weeks. 4 days after the last pin and in the 10 days leading up to PCT i did 1,000 i.u. of HCG eod (will use it throughout next cycle, if there is a next time).

If this PCT was sufficient, one thing that I'd really like to know is whether it would be safe to play around with my calories now that my T levels are 'normal'? I am currently taking in about 350g of carbs, 300g protein (75g of which is the incomplete wheat protein in pasta) and 80g of fat (5' 9" 180lb 13%). I found that increasing calories during PCT resulted in unwanted fat gain. I don't want to hinder any muscular gains and so would like to maybe increase the carbs a bit if they seem a bit on the low side for post-PCT? Also found intermittent fasting impossible with low T levels, so would maybe like to start that again...
Sounds like you did everything right bro good to see somebody who actually researches

I you keep your carbs low strength will start leaving you so it's kind of a pickle ha
 

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Is getting fat just part of the bulking process? In the past i've jumped the calorie gun too quickly and gotten fat (>/=15%) as a result. My aim is to keep carbs at a moderate range, eat at maintenance and somehow (perhaps magically? :sgrin:) slowly lose body fat and gain definition. My other option is to use that dreaded Dinitrophenol again in the winter (sleep is impossible during the summer) - even the thought of that bitter yellow pill makes me nauseous; but the extremely low fat diet (<5%) associated with DNP use always has a negative effect on my psychological health (The worst OCD imaginable - i'm talking repeating actions again and again because you were thinking of the wrong thing whilst doing them...), and it takes hard work to 'un-learn' those awful behaviours, so I'm probably gonna have to do a bit more trial and error instead and hope for that magic recomp with my current maintenance diet; should be possible if I'm maintaining my weight but my lifts are going up slightly?
 
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Just add in cardio


And bulking you will gain some fat but it should be easily manageable by munipulating calories,carbs,and cardio
 

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I tend to always lose a lot of muscle with cardio; even with walking I've lost an appreciable amount of muscle, and so never do cardio anymore - or do you suggest doing High Intensity Interval Training? I am yet to give that a serious go, and if it's good for melting the fat off (as I would imagine if it stimulates growth hormone release?) I might just have to.
 
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I tend to always lose a lot of muscle with cardio; even with walking I've lost an appreciable amount of muscle, and so never do cardio anymore - or do you suggest doing High Intensity Interval Training? I am yet to give that a serious go, and if it's good for melting the fat off (as I would imagine if it stimulates growth hormone release?) I might just have to.
HIIT is great for what you are looking for
 

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