Was this PCT enough?
- 07-18-2013, 02:50 PM
Was this PCT enough?
18 weeks of test-e @ 600mg
Adex 0.25mg EOD throughout
5,000 i.u. HCG blast at end
120/90/90/60/60 Toremifene (5 weeks at those mg doses)
50 mg clomid 10 days
25 mg clomid 20 days
Do I need to continue the clomid?
I'll have no access to blood work for a long time; however, testicles seem nice and full/big/heavy and I am getting morning wood everyday. Also gaining more definition. Should I play it safe and just continue the clomid at 25mg for another 20 days? I ask because the acne from the clomid is really getting to me and I don't want to beat a dead horse.
- 07-18-2013, 04:25 PM
You should be good to go. Doesn't hurt to run clomid a little longer though. I wold only run it a week more.Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
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07-18-2013, 11:45 PM
07-21-2013, 01:49 AM
07-21-2013, 02:05 PM
2 weeks. 4 days after the last pin and in the 10 days leading up to PCT i did 1,000 i.u. of HCG eod (will use it throughout next cycle, if there is a next time).
If this PCT was sufficient, one thing that I'd really like to know is whether it would be safe to play around with my calories now that my T levels are 'normal'? I am currently taking in about 350g of carbs, 300g protein (75g of which is the incomplete wheat protein in pasta) and 80g of fat (5' 9" 180lb 13%). I found that increasing calories during PCT resulted in unwanted fat gain. I don't want to hinder any muscular gains and so would like to maybe increase the carbs a bit if they seem a bit on the low side for post-PCT? Also found intermittent fasting impossible with low T levels, so would maybe like to start that again...
07-21-2013, 03:35 PM
07-21-2013, 04:24 PM
Is getting fat just part of the bulking process? In the past i've jumped the calorie gun too quickly and gotten fat (>/=15%) as a result. My aim is to keep carbs at a moderate range, eat at maintenance and somehow (perhaps magically? ) slowly lose body fat and gain definition. My other option is to use that dreaded Dinitrophenol again in the winter (sleep is impossible during the summer) - even the thought of that bitter yellow pill makes me nauseous; but the extremely low fat diet (<5%) associated with DNP use always has a negative effect on my psychological health (The worst OCD imaginable - i'm talking repeating actions again and again because you were thinking of the wrong thing whilst doing them...), and it takes hard work to 'un-learn' those awful behaviours, so I'm probably gonna have to do a bit more trial and error instead and hope for that magic recomp with my current maintenance diet; should be possible if I'm maintaining my weight but my lifts are going up slightly?
07-21-2013, 04:50 PM
Just add in cardio
And bulking you will gain some fat but it should be easily manageable by munipulating calories,carbs,and cardio
07-21-2013, 04:56 PM
I tend to always lose a lot of muscle with cardio; even with walking I've lost an appreciable amount of muscle, and so never do cardio anymore - or do you suggest doing High Intensity Interval Training? I am yet to give that a serious go, and if it's good for melting the fat off (as I would imagine if it stimulates growth hormone release?) I might just have to.
07-21-2013, 05:00 PM
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