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    Was this PCT enough?


    18 weeks of test-e @ 600mg
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    Adex 0.25mg EOD throughout
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    5,000 i.u. HCG blast at end
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    120/90/90/60/60 Toremifene (5 weeks at those mg doses)
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    50 mg clomid 10 days
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    25 mg clomid 20 days
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    Do I need to continue the clomid?

    I'll have no access to blood work for a long time; however, testicles seem nice and full/big/heavy and I am getting morning wood everyday. Also gaining more definition. Should I play it safe and just continue the clomid at 25mg for another 20 days? I ask because the acne from the clomid is really getting to me and I don't want to beat a dead horse.


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    You should be good to go. Doesn't hurt to run clomid a little longer though. I wold only run it a week more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    You should be good to go. Doesn't hurt to run clomid a little longer though. I wold only run it a week more.
    I'm actually starting to believe that the clomid is improving so many areas of my health from what it was pre-cycle. If it wasn't for the acne I would stay on it indefinitely. Thanks for the swift and helpful reply; I'll stay on it for another week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Smegma View Post
    18 weeks of test-e @ 600mg
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    Adex 0.25mg EOD throughout
    I
    5,000 i.u. HCG blast at end
    I
    120/90/90/60/60 Toremifene (5 weeks at those mg doses)
    I
    50 mg clomid 10 days
    I
    25 mg clomid 20 days
    I
    Do I need to continue the clomid?

    I'll have no access to blood work for a long time; however, testicles seem nice and full/big/heavy and I am getting morning wood everyday. Also gaining more definition. Should I play it safe and just continue the clomid at 25mg for another 20 days? I ask because the acne from the clomid is really getting to me and I don't want to beat a dead horse.

    How long did you wait after last pin to start pct?
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    2 weeks. 4 days after the last pin and in the 10 days leading up to PCT i did 1,000 i.u. of HCG eod (will use it throughout next cycle, if there is a next time).

    If this PCT was sufficient, one thing that I'd really like to know is whether it would be safe to play around with my calories now that my T levels are 'normal'? I am currently taking in about 350g of carbs, 300g protein (75g of which is the incomplete wheat protein in pasta) and 80g of fat (5' 9" 180lb 13%). I found that increasing calories during PCT resulted in unwanted fat gain. I don't want to hinder any muscular gains and so would like to maybe increase the carbs a bit if they seem a bit on the low side for post-PCT? Also found intermittent fasting impossible with low T levels, so would maybe like to start that again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Smegma View Post
    2 weeks. 4 days after the last pin and in the 10 days leading up to PCT i did 1,000 i.u. of HCG eod (will use it throughout next cycle, if there is a next time).

    If this PCT was sufficient, one thing that I'd really like to know is whether it would be safe to play around with my calories now that my T levels are 'normal'? I am currently taking in about 350g of carbs, 300g protein (75g of which is the incomplete wheat protein in pasta) and 80g of fat (5' 9" 180lb 13%). I found that increasing calories during PCT resulted in unwanted fat gain. I don't want to hinder any muscular gains and so would like to maybe increase the carbs a bit if they seem a bit on the low side for post-PCT? Also found intermittent fasting impossible with low T levels, so would maybe like to start that again...
    Sounds like you did everything right bro good to see somebody who actually researches

    I you keep your carbs low strength will start leaving you so it's kind of a pickle ha
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    Is getting fat just part of the bulking process? In the past i've jumped the calorie gun too quickly and gotten fat (>/=15%) as a result. My aim is to keep carbs at a moderate range, eat at maintenance and somehow (perhaps magically? ) slowly lose body fat and gain definition. My other option is to use that dreaded Dinitrophenol again in the winter (sleep is impossible during the summer) - even the thought of that bitter yellow pill makes me nauseous; but the extremely low fat diet (<5%) associated with DNP use always has a negative effect on my psychological health (The worst OCD imaginable - i'm talking repeating actions again and again because you were thinking of the wrong thing whilst doing them...), and it takes hard work to 'un-learn' those awful behaviours, so I'm probably gonna have to do a bit more trial and error instead and hope for that magic recomp with my current maintenance diet; should be possible if I'm maintaining my weight but my lifts are going up slightly?
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    Just add in cardio


    And bulking you will gain some fat but it should be easily manageable by munipulating calories,carbs,and cardio
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    I tend to always lose a lot of muscle with cardio; even with walking I've lost an appreciable amount of muscle, and so never do cardio anymore - or do you suggest doing High Intensity Interval Training? I am yet to give that a serious go, and if it's good for melting the fat off (as I would imagine if it stimulates growth hormone release?) I might just have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Smegma View Post
    I tend to always lose a lot of muscle with cardio; even with walking I've lost an appreciable amount of muscle, and so never do cardio anymore - or do you suggest doing High Intensity Interval Training? I am yet to give that a serious go, and if it's good for melting the fat off (as I would imagine if it stimulates growth hormone release?) I might just have to.
    HIIT is great for what you are looking for
  

  
 

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