- 07-16-2013, 12:44 PM
Here is what I'm currently planning on doing
liquid nolva 20/20/10/10
AI? I've been reading, and people saying runing an AI (erase) would be more harmful then good when running a SERM for h-drol.
bullnox (contains some test boosting stuff) PWO
How does everything look? Should I take erase? or would nolva/tomax with some natty test boosters be enough?
I also can't make up my mind on a cotrisol product. Meaning if I even need it. I would go with lean xtreme, but reading online says that can be more harmful then good.
If I decided not to use the cortisol product, could I just take high amounts of BCAA throughout the day with 3g of VIT C post workout?
- 07-16-2013, 01:58 PM
youre reading from the wrng forum, or wrong posters then. for the ai part, youre probly confused a little. running an ai on cycle could cause more harm than good. andrunning a powerful ai during pct could cause more harm than good. running erase pct is always good.
whoever said cort control = bad is a straight idiot. its definately not needed, but it will help for those harsher or longer cycles. you could skimp on it and save some money. for hdrol, youll most likely keep most or all gains if you use your serm and eat right
07-16-2013, 03:20 PM
Definitely use Erase in your PCT along with SERM & DAA.
Bullnox does have some test boosters supplements in it, but not enough.
I would recommend adding another Test Booster into your PCT: Recycle by Purus Labs.
Instead of Erase you could run REHAB by LGI.
Its has enough AI & Test boosters supplements in it!
07-16-2013, 04:14 PM
07-16-2013, 04:14 PM
07-16-2013, 05:37 PM
- SERM (start day 1 of PCT)
- DAA (start day 1 of PCT)
- LGI: REHAB (start day 1 of PCT)
- SERM (start day 1 of PCT)
- DAA (start day 1 of PCT)
- Test Booster Supplements: Example: Recycle by Purus Labs (start day 1 of PCT)
- PES: Erase (Start 2nd or 3rd week of PCT)
07-16-2013, 06:15 PM
07-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Creatine, preworkout, along with your PCT is enough. Try Agmatine Sulfate with your Preworkout. Gives ya great muscle pumps.
A huge important thing to remember during PCT, cleaning eating while & keeping your calorie/macro intake the same as it was on cycle to keep your gains & not add fat.
07-16-2013, 08:32 PM
07-18-2013, 10:46 PM
07-19-2013, 01:13 PM
LGI makes some really great products. So I would go with their recommended dosing.
Also I would start dosing the DAA the last week of my cycle, it takes damn near 2 weeks for it to kick in.
No Sarm needed.
Im starting my SD-Halo cycle next week, & running it similar to what you are taking.
Supports Supps: LGI Damage Control, Fish Oils, Orange Triad, BCAA, Taurine (if needed)
Support Supps &
Tamox : 40/20/10/10
Purus Lab: DPOL (DAA)
Maybe add some Anabeta if I have the extra $$
07-19-2013, 08:23 PM
I am currently doing 75/75/75/100/100 of LGI halo-25...first cycle ever. Currently 2 days into week 3. not much yet! fingers crossed.
Do i take my tomax right before bed? and if so, can i put the liquid into cranberry juice or something along those lines? (heard it taste like crap, paint thinner, etc)
What SD are you running?
support supp brand?
also, what would you reccomend for my next cycle if all goes well with this cycle and pct?
07-22-2013, 03:03 PM
Running LGI SD-10 & LGI Halo
Supports LGI Damage Control.
Next cycle, really depends on what you want to do...
for a strength / leaner look try an EPI.
for a more strength / size try Mechabol or a DMZ/LMG Cycle.
07-23-2013, 11:33 AM
07-23-2013, 01:15 PM
How is your diet? Are you eating at a surplus? Recomp?
Also at what doses are you running Halo?
On Halo, it took around 2-3 weeks for me to feel anything when I ran it.
I only gained 8 lbs (kept 6 lbs after PCT) on halo with a 250-500 calorie surplus (daily).
07-24-2013, 11:56 AM
My diet is a recomp, I'm 300 calories short of maintenance. I add fat really easy, so I have to keep my calories low otherwise i would gain nothing but fat like my last bulk.
Yeah, halo is looking like a waste of time IMO. I feel I would of been better off taking oxyelite pro and yohimbine, and upping my protein intake.
But ill see what i choose (if i choose) to run for a bulk..
07-24-2013, 12:02 PM
what brand hdrol? and did you get it on amazon or ebay?
if you havnt noticed anything by week 4, youre either training wrong or got a bunk product
07-24-2013, 01:09 PM
Maybe increase it to 100 the rest of this week & next week, then 125 the last week.
Also how are you dosing? You should be taking Halo twice a day, morning & preworkout or vice-a-versa.
Your eating at a deficift, so you maybe get more solid/lean, lose some fat with some strength gain.
Halo is a mild PH:
•When used in a bulking diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 10-15lb neighbourhood on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
•When used in a recomp diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 7-10lb neighbourhood while simultaneously losing 1-2% bodyfat on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
•When used in a cutting diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 3-5lb neighbourhood while losing 2-4% bodyfat on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
Checkout link below-
07-24-2013, 02:00 PM
I'm on my second day of 100, and i'm thinking about upping my calories a little bit.
I take 50 in the morning, and if i can, 50 PWO.
I've read tunedsports many times.
07-24-2013, 02:01 PM
Amazon, from what i thought was a good company.
Bottle was sealed and all.
I train my dick off, Every gym session i push my self hard. Also, I know what training hard is...for me. I have upped my training and sets because of i'm h-drol.
07-24-2013, 03:55 PM
well seeing you got it from amazon, that ups the odd that it was bunk. if u dont notice anything by week 5, id say is safe to say you bought bunk hdrol
are u getting any sides at all? like back pumps?
07-24-2013, 05:26 PM
07-24-2013, 09:38 PM
So far i've had wicked back pumps during week 3, but nothing since then. I'm also more short tempered with people..but i've been like that before this cycle.
I've noticed i don't recover any faster, muscle aren't any fuller, and to be honest, i'm weaker in some lifts.....
I'm also tired...but not lethargy (I was extremly lethargic on 1-ad 4-ad) I'm just not in the mood to do anything, working out is a pain, and i get bored with my gym sessions fast.
here is what is printed on both of my LGI bottles
07-25-2013, 12:51 PM
Have you lost any weight since the beginning of the cycle?
Is your waist line or bodyfat % decreased?
I would suggest incorporating Stano (@ 800-1000mg) on your next cycle.
It adds focus, aggression & helps with lethargy while on cycle.
07-25-2013, 05:27 PM
nope, no weight loss. My weight has actually stayed the same since I started, and bodyfat is coming off as the same way before I started.
I'm thinking about just stopping after week 4, and forgoing my 5th week. Starting my PCT and only running tomax and DAA, and cortisol control and keeping on top of my diet. This cycle is a waste of time in my mind, and i'd rather just end it sooner and start another one once the time comes.
What should my next cycle be? I want nothing but mass, thats it. I know diet is the most important thing, and i'm on top of that...would m-drol be a good choice?
07-25-2013, 06:05 PM
For size I would suggest.....
DMZ / LMG-
Which ever you decide take it with STANO!
Better grab the Stano quickly, it sells out fast on this site & is fairly difficult to find at a fair price sometimes.
Edit: they cut off the link. LOL. Its at Lockout.
07-26-2013, 06:37 PM
Will I be fine with just my tomax (not for human consumption?) and DAA for my pct with this weak ass h-drol?
Also, i cant find the ultradrol.
Do i stack DMZ LMG and stano? or DMZ and stano, or LMG and stano?
Also, can I run DMZ or ultradrol for a second cycle? majority of people say I should get a few cycles before I do any superdrol, m-drol, or DMZ stuff...but if h-drol if this weak, I think I can handle dmz or superdorl.
07-26-2013, 06:44 PM
answer is for me bud. if your piss different? or still yellow or clear depending on hydration?
07-26-2013, 07:01 PM
Checkout the Lockout store - Mfr: Elite Formulations - Ultradrol
For DMZ/LMG checkout Mfr: Phantom Lab - Phorce
You can do DMZ solo or with LMG for more mass. LMG solo is not a good cycle.
Stano just helps with the lethargy from being on cycle. Its a non-Methyl compound so you can add it to your cycle.
You can run another mild PH for a 2nd cycle. But if you want mass, those are the two PH's I would run besides SD.
07-26-2013, 08:24 PM
Should I even run a PCT? or just keep all my tomax, etc for a real cycle.
Piss is normal, I got vita-dick when i take my vitamines, but normally its clear or lightly yellow....I drink lots of water.
Also, i said F it, and opened one of the capsules up, it was very hard to open btw....the powder was white and kind of chunky. I tasted about 1/4 of it, it didn't taste like much, but has almost a faint sweetness to it...****.
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