- 07-26-2013, 09:17 PM
Stano just helps with the lethargy from being on cycle. Its a non-Methyl compound so you can add it to your cycle.
What is the ultradrol? I cant find info on it.
Dang, that phorce looks sick, you ever ran it? and what was the dosing at?
I may even just stop my cycle today and just run DAA., and wait for about two weeks, and by h-drol from a reputably website...but lockout doesn't have any halo...
- 07-26-2013, 09:44 PM
your hdrol was bunk. unless youre drinkin 2gallons+ a day and pissing every half hour, a methyl will at the very least make your piss a little darker and thicker. if you dont drink enough, itll make it brownish
i think u should jusst do epistane and buy it from a real legit distributor, not some amazon account. or get legit hdrol
07-26-2013, 10:10 PM
So, johhny also recommended ultradrol, should I try that? I don't want to get a head of my self, and take things slow and work my way up to something strong.
I'm going to finish my cut in the next 5 weeks, and start a real cycle. It will be a bulk. Should I run h-drol for a bulk? or would epi be better?
Also, do i need a pct at all? Or can I just stop today and run some DAA just to be safe, and save my tomax and rehab for a legit cycle?
07-26-2013, 11:38 PM
its hard to say whether to even do a pct or not because u dont know for absolute sure if it was crap. and not doing a pct could fuk u in the long run. but i see your side because id want to save it for the real cycle too lol. how many weeks are in right now?
07-27-2013, 10:33 AM
I will run DAA just to be safe and minitor my sides and estrogen signs. I really don't feel the need to run tomax or my rehab...but I also want to be safe....but this h-drol did nothing...
Also, i'll be taking around a 5 weeks break before doing another cycle. it will be a bulk, and you say epi would be my best bet? What should the dosing look like?
07-27-2013, 10:55 AM
i was just suggesting epi because its another good mild compound and i had a prety good experience with it. i had 15mg pills and did 30/30/45/45/45/45.
you can do 30/30/40/40/50/50 or just 40 for 4 weeks if u get 10mg pills
i used epistrong for mine, but i got it on christmas with a 30% discount. look at lgi or celtic labs and buy them from their exclusive sites
07-28-2013, 12:49 PM
Do you have any trusted websites I should buy from? I know lockout, and strong supplements seem gtg to me.
Should I stack LMG for extra mass with my epi/havoc cycle? and can my pct be my nolva 20/20/10/10 and rehab, DAA?
after researching here is my first go around
LMG 75/75/75/75/75/100 OR 75
celery seed 75mg x2
hawthorne 1-2g a day
animal flex when joints become a problem
DAA 6(last week of cycle)3/3/3
vitamin c 6g a day spaced out
07-29-2013, 12:45 AM
The reason I suggested a strong compound like DMZ & Ultradrol is because those PH's will give him the size & stregnth he is looking for.
I understand EPI is good for stregnth & leaning out, but not sure on the size & mass aspect that boxcar is expecting.
07-29-2013, 01:03 AM
between the easier compounds like epistane or pmag/mechabol, diet will be the determining factor on its effects. i just advised towards epi because i have personal experience with it and really enjoyed it
i agree dmz would be better for the goal though. but i advised against it for two reasons. the first being that he has zero experience with methyls since his hdrol was crap (meaning he doesnt know how a methyl will effect his body -liver, lipids, bp,prostate, hairline, stuff like that). the second being he has no experience with pct from methyls since his hdrol was crap lol. so throwing him under the msten/dmz bus is like teaching someone how to drive a motorcycle with a 1200cc hayabusa
i think epi/lmg will match his goals well enough without putting the strain on his body that 2 dimethyls would. and i think itll be a lot easier to maintain the gains from that cycle a lot easier than a sdmz run.
07-29-2013, 10:24 AM
I agree with both johnny, that a p-mag would be better for mass, or h-drol. IMO. I know somepeople don't respond to epi at all.
And I agree with onion, I want to start slow and not rush into this. So dmz m-drol will be saved for down the road when I'm more experienced.
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