I want to run a Helladrol Cycle without SERM...

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    Wink I want to run a Helladrol Cycle without SERM...


    After reading a decent amount of users of nolvadex or clomid got permanent visual damage / blurred vision i don't want to risk taking them....I just want to know if i can get by with just an Anti-Estrogen such as PES Erase or Forma-stanzol? why would I need a SERM if i can just use an AI to prevent gyno and have the natural test get my natural test up and not rely on clomid/novla? my cycle looks like this

    2 Week Pre-Load
    C.E.L Cycle Assist (Liver Support)

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    Week 1-6: Helladrol 75/75/100/100/125/125
    Week 1-6: 5x n2guard (Liver Support)
    Week 1-4: 2x PES Erase (Anti-Estrogen)
    Week 4-6: Forma Stanzol 5 pumps AM/PM

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    Week 7-10: Forma Stanzol 5 pumps AM/PM
    Week 7-11: 3x BioForge (Natural Test-Booster)
    Week 7-11: 2x PES Erase (Anti-Estrogen)
    Week 7-11: 3x Lean Xtreme (Cortisol Control)
    Week 7-11: C.E.L Cycle Assist (Liver Support)

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    Show me an example of someone getting permanent damage please, especially from nolva. That is BS. Probably an article from an OTC PCT company.

    Don't run Erase on cycle, no point. Reduce XT is a better cortisol control supp than the new Lean Xtreme as well. Start it in week 3 of your PCT though.

    But seriously, just run nolva. You will be fine.
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    sounds like a kid justifying no serm
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    If your not going to use a serm check out the Mho poppers from mr supps blood work is proven is boosts test
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    Those are some pretty high doses of helladrol, not running a SERM could be a really bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat727 View Post
    If your not going to use a serm check out the Mho poppers from mr supps blood work is proven is boosts test
    Link? Sounds interesting.
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    erase on cycle? mehh
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    That is not a high dose of hella right now I'm running the same right now bro dont use forma and erase together you might bring down estrogen to much
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