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    New to pct need advice


    Hello I am a bit new to ph and pct but I've been doing some research... I'm looking to use a ph but I don't want to start until I'm set with pct.. Can you guys please give me some advice on the pct supps I need?

    M1-4ADD 17amethyl-1,4-androstadiene-3b 20mg
    18-Methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol 25mg

    Long Jack 100mg
    Milk Thistle 100mg
    NAC 100mg

    the ph is deca plexx by alpha labs. The dosage will be this serving twice a day.
    Thank you guys for the help.


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    The best way to learn is to research then come back and post up dosing and have people have input over that instead of us designing a PCT for you then you not knowing how to design a PCT.
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    Same thing as the guy above.
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    Do you guys think that PCT Revolution Black + FinaFlex Pure Test stack would make for a good pct?
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    Hey Phemc80 welcome to AM. I'd go to the Supplements>Supplement Companies>Finaflex Redefine Nutrition forum and ask questions in there. Snags,Kleen, Dreamweaver, Edge,Eclipse are great reps. Also in there are logs of users (like mine for example) that I'm sure will answer your questions. I assume you are over 21.
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    Three things for a basic PCT:

    Natty Test Booster (e.g. DAA, Endosurge, Intimidate, D-Pol)
    Aromatase Inhibitor (e.g. Arimidex, Aromasin, Erase)
    SERM (e.g. Nolvadex, Clomiphene, Toremifine)

    You can search around and find out which would be best for the cycle you are doing and what dosage you should run. Some of these compounds may not work as well or be the best risk vs reward for all cycles, there is no go to answer or plan that is perfect for every cycle. Research, research, research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Three things for a basic PCT:

    Natty Test Booster (e.g. DAA, Endosurge, Intimidate, D-Pol)
    lol lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro
    Three things for a basic PCT:

    Natty Test Booster (e.g. DAA, Endosurge, Intimidate, D-Pol)
    Aromatase Inhibitor (e.g. Arimidex, Aromasin, Erase)
    SERM (e.g. Nolvadex, Clomiphene, Toremifine)

    You can search around and find out which would be best for the cycle you are doing and what dosage you should run. Some of these compounds may not work as well or be the best risk vs reward for all cycles, there is no go to answer or plan that is perfect for every cycle. Research, research, research.
    This ^^^ and also might add support supps for lipids, liver, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    lol lol
    They were product examples, when I say DAA I mean DAA by itself as in a bulk powder. D-Pol however is not just DAA, but also contains some other things. I've never used D-Pol but have been told by a few people that it works better than straight DAA powder.

    https://www.puruslabs.net/images/ars.../dpolpanel.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    They were product examples, when I say DAA I mean DAA by itself as in a bulk powder. D-Pol however is not just DAA, but also contains some other things. I've never used D-Pol but have been told by a few people that it works better than straight DAA powder.

    https://www.puruslabs.net/images/ars.../dpolpanel.jpg
    DAA doesn`t work.

    I have done bloods and it didn`t do a thing.

    It`s only good as a lemony flavoring,and pretty good at it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    DAA doesn`t work.

    I have done bloods and it didn`t do a thing.

    It`s only good as a lemony flavoring,and pretty good at it too.
    Interesting. Maybe just a mental thing then, but I've used it a few times and noticed a difference. No bloods though :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phemc80 View Post
    Do you guys think that PCT Revolution Black + FinaFlex Pure Test stack would make for a good pct?
    PCT revolution black is only good for very MILD compounds but I wouldn't use it personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    DAA doesn`t work.

    I have done bloods and it didn`t do a thing.

    It`s only good as a lemony flavoring,and pretty good at it too.
    Yes it does and other members here and BB have bloods up. You've posted a bit that you have low T which leads me to assume theres a step missing in your test production chain; DAA won't fix the chain. If you have a normal output and production of T, then DAA can boost those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    DAA doesn`t work.

    I have done bloods and it didn`t do a thing.

    It`s only good as a lemony flavoring,and pretty good at it too.
    And I got bloods that say it does.

    Guess you're a non-responder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    And I got bloods that say it does.

    Guess you're a non-responder.
    If you mean bloods showing increase while recovering from cycle,that`s bull crap,they would have increased anyway.

    I have bloods showing the true nature of DAA,off cycle,without doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    You've posted a bit that you have low T which leads me to assume theres a step missing in your test production chain;
    Do not just repeat what you`ve heard Mr.Cooper say.

    You haven`t got a clue yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Do not just repeat what you`ve heard Mr.Cooper say.

    You haven`t got a clue yourself.
    Are you kidding me?
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    So, we know that DAA works by increasing the stAR protein yes? But if you have a pre-exisiting issue woih the stAR protein (i.e. a loss of it) then you will not be able to produce steriodal hormones (lack of cholesterol transport). The protein helps faciliate the movement of lipophillic cholesterol as they are water phobic; a lack of this halts this process and thus leading to a lack of test production.

    If you have a broken stAR mechanism, then don't expect DAA to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    So, we know that DAA works by increasing the stAR protein yes? But if you have a pre-exisiting issue woih the stAR protein (i.e. a loss of it) then you will not be able to produce steriodal hormones (lack of cholesterol transport). The protein helps faciliate the movement of lipophillic cholesterol as they are water phobic; a lack of this halts this process and thus leading to a lack of test production.

    If you have a broken stAR mechanism, then don't expect DAA to fix it.
    Again,you are quoting Mr.Coop.

    With stAr,the only thing he mentioned of the top of his head that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Again,you are quoting Mr.Coop.

    With stAr,the only thing he mentioned of the to of his head that time.
    No, I am not quoting anybody. Coop is not the only one who does his homework or has an interest in DAA.If you know how DAA works (via the stAR mechanism) then all you need to do is connect the dots.

    You can obviously choose to believe what you want to. I have no vested interest in DAA but to claim it doesn't work when studies and people's blood work show it does is shortsighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    If you mean bloods showing increase while recovering from cycle,that`s bull crap,they would have increased anyway.

    I have bloods showing the true nature of DAA,off cycle,without doubt.
    LMAO - My results were after a stand-alone cycle of four months on DAA and NO OTHER compounds.

    You're a non-responder. I'm not gonna come in here and call you a liar - I'll take you at your word that you didn't get anything out of it. I'm asking for the same respect from you - take me at my word. Or, if you want ... I'll find those bloods and PM them to you.

    When they were taken, I was 50 years old and my total test came back at 950 ng/ml and free was 34 ng/ml on the LabCorp scale.

    I mean - the **** may not work for you but don't come in here like you're God and can pronounce the stuff bunk based on your ANECDOTAL experience with it.

    Bottom line is - it works for some, maybe not for others. If your HPTA is fried from too much AAS use, then I highly doubt it would do anything for you. Like putting gas into a broke ass Porsche - it still ain't going nowhere. If you're pituitary ain't firing right - it won't do **** for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I love your mom Honda.
    I don't think so - she likes DAA too!

    EDIT: In all honesty ... I just (two weeks ago) took bloods and I had been off DAA for over a month. My total test was 870 ng/ml but my free test was ... 17 ng/ml (with 24 being the high end of the LabCorp scale). So my total test is negligibly lower off DAA but my free test is WAY lower off DAA (last time I exceeded the high spec while "on" it).

    Not everything works for everyone. DAA has some gastro sides and peeps need to weigh that against what they're getting out of the stuff. Only way to do that is with bloods.
  

  
 

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