HCG and HMG PCT Restarts Keep Failing
- 04-27-2013, 06:06 PM
- 04-27-2013, 06:29 PM
And no I didn't mean to put words in your mouth about thyroid/clomid. I was simply asking if PCT had an effect on it because you mentioned te thyroid possibly bein out of whack. I never thought it did btw.
- 04-27-2013, 08:02 PM
palmfist do you have any input on my lactation question an do you know why people have to stop Preworkouts for a month or so?
04-28-2013, 04:08 PM
04-28-2013, 04:28 PM
There you go. First two hits on google. Do some of your own leg work. I'm done here. GL with everything...
04-28-2013, 04:38 PM
Could very well be related to caffeine and cortisol issues. Im 22. Thank you again. Your help and effort means alot to me.
04-29-2013, 11:00 AM
04-30-2013, 04:12 AM
Mince I'm feeling much better I may take a crack at getting rid of the small amount of gyno I have.
Mots got small mardi gras sized beads behind each nipple and it pushes out making it puffy and not as tight to my chest as it should be.
I've attempted to remove it a few times before with Letro and got results but when I tapered down it came back. I have Letro, Aromasin, and Nolva.
How would you go about doing that when the time comes?
04-30-2013, 04:17 AM
Usually taper letro up to 2 until its completely gone then taper down to 0 at that point add in exem 6-25 mg a day for a couple weeks then get off. Exem is a suicide inhibitor so no worry of rebound
Been reading up on clomid cycles that last months on end bro. Seem to be completely safe in regards to sides. I'll post a link for you to check out. That said I still think you need time off everything for awhile...
04-30-2013, 04:19 AM
04-30-2013, 06:45 AM
04-30-2013, 06:47 AM
05-02-2013, 12:01 AM
I got a giant list of bloods done yesterday. Hopefully it will be ready tomorrow.
Since my stress levels have been so high and ove been so tired for so long and I have maybe 15 pounds of extra fat that I didn't have before all this, I'm thinking cortisol has something to do with it (we will find out when the results come). I started making blueberry+ strawberry+ V8+ banana+ spinach smoothies everyday. Eating healthy wheat sandwiches and lots of peas and corn too. I also picked up some melatonin to help with sleep and valerian root. I also am taking 4-6 grams of Vit C a day, a Vitamin B complex, and a Multivitamin every morning as well. Also a decaf green tea pill in the morning.
My question is, if this is cortisol related, when can I see: 1. A homeostasis with cortisol. 2. Symptoms of severe anxiety, stress, fatigue, and sex drive to normalize. 3. Abdominal fat loss.
Most of that 15 pounds has accumulated around my waist.
Cant wait to get my blood results! I will post them soon!
05-02-2013, 10:29 PM
05-07-2013, 01:11 PM
Alright guys most of my results are done. Still waiting on estradiol and dht. It's not labcorp so I can't see them in person but the nurse was willing to tell me a few over the phone. This was done last Wednesday so about 3 weeks post HCG and then the clomid/Nolva.
Test is 650. That's great.
Cortisol is 18. That was around 10:30 am. Said it was normal.
Only thing out of range so far was Total Estrogen. Can anybody clarify the difference between that and estradiol??
that total estrogen I think she said was in the 170's and the highest normal end was like in the 130's.
So what do you think so far!?
I have bad anxiety stress low sex drive and get less random boners although I usually get morning wood and get some erections in the day. Hard time thinking straight and no confidence. More emotional thinking. Less drive for sex more of a focus on past relationships.
05-08-2013, 12:31 AM
Anybody know what I should do about the high estrogen? I should have the estradiol results this week.
From what I understand, estradiol is one of 3 parts that make up total estrogen. Is estradiol the only important one for men?
05-08-2013, 04:30 PM
05-08-2013, 07:15 PM
Anybody? Some help please. Dont really have problems with ED, but i do with Libido. Really wanna get back on track and feel normal again. Tired of being 20 pounds over my normal weight and unable to lose it. Tired of having no sex drive or energy ever. Is the estrogen causing this? Does it just depend on estradiol?
05-08-2013, 07:30 PM
We already told you. You need to chill on all the supplements and drugs. It takes time. You are obsessing and making the situation worse.
AM sucks ass. find me on ASF or IMF.
05-08-2013, 07:40 PM
Yes I get that but now we actually know my estrogen is high after being off everything for almost a month with no improvements. Sorry for freaking out but I've been debilitated for 15 months straight. I'm tired of this I'm going insane and i hate life because of it. I just want some help. Don't tell me to just relax because you can't relax for a year straight with no results
05-08-2013, 07:44 PM
05-08-2013, 07:53 PM
I just want input on whether those levels of estrogen cause the problems I've stated. I also wanted to know if not, then is it solely dependent on the estradiol (when it comes to E). It would give me soooo much relief if I knew that is what is most likely causing my problems. I would be able to "chill bro". Can't do that if I don't see an end in sight.
As for stopping supplements, I have. My cortisol came back fine. Plus all the fat burners etc that I had taken never came near to equalling 1 coffee a day so I don't think I took too many stimulants.
05-09-2013, 11:06 AM
is one or two more days till you have the estradiol + DHT numbers, or can go by the office and get an actual paper copy of the results so you have exact numbers really all that much longer to wait and be sure of what you are going to do as far as treatment?
05-09-2013, 01:13 PM
1. Can a 'total estrogen' of 170 cause my symptoms?
2. Are E symptoms only there when Estradiol is high?
What I mean is, can my total estrogen be high and E2 be good, but I still feel bad? Or does total estrogen levels not even matter and only Estradiol does?
Does this make sense to anyone? I feel like nobody understands the question
05-09-2013, 04:14 PM
For whatever reason my Estradiol had to be done in California so it won't be until next week that I get those results. Rechecked my other things though.
Total Estrogen=174. Range needs to be under 130
DHT was right in the middle. I didn't ask specifics on that.
Cortisol was 18 at 11 am. Reference Range is 5-23 in am and 3-16 in afternoon.
I know they say a good Estradiol is around 20 but the Reference range says under 40 or so. Every time I got results after my PCTs it was around 45 so maybe I was fine but never have myself time for that to drop.
We will see how I am next week!
05-22-2013, 05:16 AM
Estradiol is 27. Everything is in range yet I have low test sides. Just time until I feel like the test levels I have?
05-22-2013, 09:43 AM
05-22-2013, 09:57 AM
05-22-2013, 09:58 AM
Also, my e2 was 27 and the range was "<29". I've never heard that range before. It's usually "10-45" or something like that. Does that mean my e2 in that reference range could be a different number?
05-22-2013, 10:24 AM
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