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Hello to everyone,
First and foremost I am not a new member to this amazing site. I have been a big contributor to this site for many years, and recently (tonight) have decided to change my member name. I have decided that I do not want people that I talk to in person daily to somehow stumble across this site and see that I am a roid talking meathead ( I was stupid enough to originally use most of my full name as my original member name) (please dont PM me asking who I am). BLAH BLAH BLAH who gives a damn. Onto my question/statement.
Its has recently came to my attention through research just how much SERMs, tamoxifen in particular (nolva for you idiots), raises your risk of blood clotting/stroke (I read some sources say UP TO 82%). This is a risk I have decided I am not willing to take in order to run a PCT. I have used Nolva many times for my PCT with no adverse side effects but now that I know (wish I would have never found out) I am extremely paranoid about using it again. Has anyone had a successful PCT where in which they did not run a SERM? I was looking into toremifine (yes, i know its a SERM) because it seems to have less of a blood clotting risk, yet it still runs one. Any alternative ideas would be appreciated
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I've definitely seen at least one knowledgeable member on here who doesn't run a SERM for PCT, mostly an ai, I just don't remember much more than that, search around a little more and you may find something on it.
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Thanks for insight. Only running an AI would take care of estrogen problems but wouldn't bring you back, so they must have ran something to bring test levels back. Possibly hcg. I'd be interested in seeing how they do it. Do you remember any part of their member name?
Really I thought exemestane was great at getting test levels back..no?
Low dose 81 mg baby aspirin may help prevent clots/stroke.
JD261985, you're onto something. It's biggest side effects with exemestane is bone loss, but I that could be because the drug would be used with older post menopausal women. I might have to look more into exemestane! Nice find
Turnkey, it would indeed but only prevent, not eliminate. I don't like to gamble my life to add an inch to my arms. Maybe 2 inches
I agree 100% but you must agree that taking a PH/DS poses health risks as well. I understand the concern and I take my health seriously so I thank you for bringing this issue up. I have started my PCT with Nolva and included an aspirin regimen because of this issue. That said it just seems to me that a PH/ DS inherently pose a much greater risk ones health than the associated PCT. I'm sure that if SD was studied as closely as Tamoxifen, which has been subjected to indepth clinical research over the decades, the findings would be pretty jaw dropping.
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I couldnt agree with you more turnkey. As I orginally went to write this post I laughed to myself a little as I thought, how I would be concerned about my PCT side effects after shoving a bunch of synthetic hormones in to my body!
Honestly man i think the research you are finding are from long term use. I'm thinking its more on side effects from women who had cancer treatments so they would be taking nolva daily for consecutive months. Just a guess tho
I agree and I'm currently running a log with OTC PCT with Versa-1 and I feel great. I am a fan of the iForce products and they contain a natural SERM. I'm currently running a log. Stop in. I can't post links yet though but u can find it in my profile.