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    Whats your go to PCT Stack?


    I wanna hear everyones go to PCT stack and or which PCT do you plan on running next


    I got a test/anavar cycle coming up and this is what I plan on running for PCT, would love to hear everyones go to PCT.

    4 weeks
    Torem- 90/60/60/30
    Formula-X- 2 scoops a day
    Endosurge- 6 caps a day
    Licogenix- 4 caps a day

    Then I switch to,

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    I'll be using Clomid at 75/50/50/25 with formulaX, Licogenix, Division1. This is all I will be using for this pct to show what Athletix only products can do.
    Including Muscle Marinade, ConDense, multi, fishoil and SlinShot to keep glycogen replenished
    Before it was
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    Preferred PCT =

    Aromasin @ 25mg day
    Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
    Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
    EndoAMP @ scoops a day

    GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
    MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
    TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

    Peri-workout drink -
    30g KarboLoad
    20g EAA'
    10g creatine
    2g glutamine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    I'll be using Clomid at 75/50/50/25 with formulaX, Licogenix, Division1. This is all I will be using for this pct to show what Athletix only products can do.
    Including Muscle Marinade, ConDense, multi, fishoil and SlinShot to keep glycogen replenished
    Before it was
    Nolva 40/20/20/10
    Daa at 3g daily
    Erase 1/2/3/3/2/1
    Preworkout of choice with vasodialator
    Can't go wrong with using Athletix in PCT

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    Preferred PCT =

    Aromasin @ 25mg day
    Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
    Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
    EndoAMP @ scoops a day

    GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
    MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
    TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

    Peri-workout drink -
    30g KarboLoad
    20g EAA'
    10g creatine
    2g glutamine

    -Matt
    Very interesting PCT, I'm seeing a lot more people using peptides in pct now. What I'm interested in knowing is why you picked Aromasin over a serm? I see a lot of people stick with a serm and add an AI 3 weeks into PCT, but I know your an expert at this Matt, so I'm looking forward to hearing your response
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    Hey JD,

    I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.

    As for the Aromasin -- I have always hated the way serms like clomid and nolva has made myself and others feel in regard to mood, vision,.and motivation during pct --- not too mention the liver carcinogen effects of nolva...

    I always liked Aromasin for its 'suicide properties" which make an estrogen rebound impossible and also the fact that research has demonstrated that Aromasin minimally alters HDL, IGF-1 and increases T effectively.

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    Can't go wrong with using Athletix in PCT



    Very interesting PCT, I'm seeing a lot more people using peptides in pct now. What I'm interested in knowing is why you picked Aromasin over a serm? I see a lot of people stick with a serm and add an AI 3 weeks into PCT, but I know your an expert at this Matt, so I'm looking forward to hearing your response
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Hey JD,

    I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.

    As for the Aromasin -- I have always hated the way serms like clomid and nolva has made myself and others feel in regard to mood, vision,.and motivation during pct --- not too mention the liver carcinogen effects of nolva...

    I always liked Aromasin for its 'suicide properties" which make an estrogen rebound impossible and also the fact that research has demonstrated that Aromasin minimally alters HDL, IGF-1 and increases T effectively.

    -Matt
    O nice, thanks for that info! Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Preferred PCT =

    Aromasin @ 25mg day
    Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
    Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
    EndoAMP @ scoops a day

    GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
    MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
    TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

    Peri-workout drink -
    30g KarboLoad
    20g EAA'
    10g creatine
    2g glutamine

    -Matt
    I find your PCT intriguing.

    I've been wondering why so many utilize a substance that only blocks the estrogen receptor, when AIs are shown to effectively increase testosterone without so many negative side effects.

    The purpose is to mitigate estrogens negative effect on the HPTA, but if overall less substrate is available for this (whether it be via receptor blockade or less estrogen all together) what would the difference be? Do SERMs have stimulating properties outside of simply preventing the negative feedback from estradiol levels?
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    Low dose Torem and the TRS (I mitigate the sides from the SERM and achieve a better recovery)

    I agree with some of Matt's PCT but I'm still not sold on the AI PCT theory, I'm interested in my bodies ability to recover normal hormone recovery (homeostasis) not just test...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    I find your PCT intriguing.

    I've been wondering why so many utilize a substance that only blocks the estrogen receptor, when AIs are shown to effectively increase testosterone without so many negative side effects.

    The purpose is to mitigate estrogens negative effect on the HPTA, but if overall less substrate is available for this (whether it be via receptor blockade or less estrogen all together) what would the difference be? Do SERMs have stimulating properties outside of simply preventing the negative feedback from estradiol levels?

    I am under the impression that SERMS mightplay a more vital role in increasing spermatogenesis and total sperm volume for fertility assurance. as for raising testosterone -- the suicide AI (aromasin) should be more than sufficient combined with the topical trans-resveratrol, 7,8, benzo and sodium d-aspartate

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Hey JD,

    I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.
    I've run at this twice already and can tell you its VERY nice. Most notably within the first week my libido was skyrocketing. Constantly waking up... happy. And then the other benefits trickled in for weeks on end after that!
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    I have no idea whats going on in here DJ hasn't touched anything requiring a PCT yet haha.

    However, I have run the Athetlix Triple Stack + Lico (including bloods) and had outstanding results. For an OTC, its where I like to hang.

    Been doing some light reading on Torem and like what I'm seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    I have no idea whats going on in here DJ hasn't touched anything requiring a PCT yet haha.

    However, I have run the Athetlix Triple Stack + Lico (including bloods) and had outstanding results. For an OTC, its where I like to hang.

    Been doing some light reading on Torem and like what I'm seeing.
    Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

    Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

    If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

    Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

    If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

    -matt
    lol

    He really is 6'9! Used to weigh 280 when he was into the powerlifting awhile back.

    yeah at 6'9 DJ could be a monster if he keeps working at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

    Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

    If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

    -matt
    Haha yea I guess I did refer to myself in the third person. Don't worry, I won't go overboard with it like Bob Dole.

    And yes I am 6'9. And JD is correct... when I was into powerlifting years back I ballooned up to 280lbs but I looked exactly how most powerlifters look, big and puffy, not defined and leaned like I would have preffered. I am currently lean bulking at the moment shooting for 250lbs. 300+lbs? Good lord I can't even imagine how much food I would have to eat just to maintain that. I'd be eating horses weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Haha yea I guess I did refer to myself in the third person. Don't worry, I won't go overboard with it like Bob Dole.

    And yes I am 6'9. And JD is correct... when I was into powerlifting years back I ballooned up to 280lbs but I looked exactly how most powerlifters look, big and puffy, not defined and leaned like I would have preffered. I am currently lean bulking at the moment shooting for 250lbs. 300+lbs? Good lord I can't even imagine how much food I would have to eat just to maintain that. I'd be eating horses weekly.

    Wouldn't mind looking like UFC's Overeem (6'5" 256lbs):

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    I am not sure how many people I have seen your height in real life lol...

    BUt WOW --- if you can pack on 300 lbs --- you would be insanely imposing and gigantic.

    Crazy because I get up to 270 at 5 10', 5 11' so I would imagine it wouldbe rather easy for you to get way up there,,, given the right

    nutrition and hormones etc.... What exactly is your cycle experience again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    What exactly is your cycle experience again?
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    I've seen maybe 2-3 people around your height through my whole life, at 6'9 you could turn yourself into a real life hulk lol
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    I just got done with a 16 week Test/Deca cycle. I'm nearly done with week 2 of PCT and i've actually gotten stronger while losing water. Not sure if this was because I was shut the **** down or what but here's what i'm using. I didn't use HCG.

    Clomid - 100/100/50/50
    Aromasin - 12.5/ed
    Testforce2 - 3 scoops a day, thats a serving and a half
    Testopro - 6/day
    Men's Virility Power by Now, good ****- 6/day
    Creatine - loaded with 10g a week before pct, now 5g post workout

    I just started my X-factor advanced a few days ago. I take 4 preworkout. Will be interesting to see how that works considering i've already upped most of my major lifts by 20 pounds during PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Virgin haha! I just poke my head into the Anabolics to do some reading on things and see how different PH/AAS runs treat people.
    Hmm you wanna let me know when you want to delve into some safe hormonal enhancement? I would love to fill out that frame with muscle and minimal fat accrual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxHomeGrown View Post
    I just got done with a 16 week Test/Deca cycle. I'm nearly done with week 2 of PCT and i've actually gotten stronger while losing water. Not sure if this was because I was shut the **** down or what but here's what i'm using. I didn't use HCG.

    Clomid - 100/100/50/50
    Aromasin - 12.5/ed
    Testforce2 - 3 scoops a day, thats a serving and a half
    Testopro - 6/day
    Men's Virility Power by Now, good ****- 6/day
    Creatine - loaded with 10g a week before pct, now 5g post workout

    I just started my X-factor advanced a few days ago. I take 4 preworkout. Will be interesting to see how that works considering i've already upped most of my major lifts by 20 pounds during PCT.

    Were you pleased with the cycle test/deca cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    I wanna hear everyones go to PCT stack and or which PCT do you plan on running next


    I got a test/anavar cycle coming up and this is what I plan on running for PCT, would love to hear everyones go to PCT.

    4 weeks
    Torem- 90/60/60/30
    Formula-X- 2 scoops a day
    Endosurge- 6 caps a day
    Licogenix- 4 caps a day

    Then I switch to,

    4 weeks
    Titanium XL- 4 caps a day
    Division 1- 6 caps a day
    Sustain Alpha- 4 pumps a day
    Endoamp- 1 scoop a day
    ErasePro- 1 cap a day EOD
    Anabeta Elite- 4 caps a day
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