Torem Dosing

[asteele]

What's up guys,

So i received my Torem in the mail today and had a quick question. i had planned on doing my PCT with torem at 90/90/60/60 but i opened my package and my Torem was in capsules not tablets like i had thought.

My question is, can i dose the 60mg capsules at 120/60/60/60 ? If not, what would you guys suggest?

Thanks.

 

[Mrpersinality]

That's what I would do. Red caps???

 

[asteele]

Yeah, they're red. Have you used them?

 

[ManBeast]

I posted an alternative in your other thread. I'll say it again here. Due to the half-life you could do 120 and 60 alternating to get a pseudo-90 for the first 2 weeks.

ManBeast

 

[Mrpersinality]

Yeah, they're red. Have you used them?

Not yet but I'm going to soon. Let me know how you make out.

 

[asteele]

I posted an alternative in your other thread. I'll say it again here. Due to the half-life you could do 120 and 60 alternating to get a pseudo-90 for the first 2 weeks.

ManBeast

So something like this: Sunday 120/Monday 60/Tuesday 120/Wednesday 60/Thursday 120/Friday 60/Saturday 120? Repeat?

 

[asteele]

Not yet but I'm going to soon. Let me know how you make out.

I haven't started my cycle yet. Just getting everything in order.

 

[ManBeast]

Yep, that would work fine, or just keep the cycle going and don't double up the 120 days.

ManBeast

 

[asteele]

Yep, that would work fine, or just keep the cycle going and don't double up the 120 days.

ManBeast

Would you recommend one or the other?

 

[ManBeast]

Since it's early in the PCT I'd lean towards the doubling up, but it shouldn't make a difference.

ManBeast

 

[asteele]

And when you say doubling up you mean the 120/60/120/60/120/120/60 for the first 2 weeks?

 

[Mrpersinality]

I haven't started my cycle yet. Just getting everything in order.

Same here. Good luck to you bro

 

[ManBeast]

yeah, the back-to-back 120s are doubling-up, sorry low carbs/calories make me a bit short lol.

ManBeast

 

[asteele]

yeah, the back-to-back 120s are doubling-up, sorry low carbs/calories make me a bit short lol.

ManBeast

Thanks ManBeast. I haven't started my cycle yet but it's always good to have everything lined up before.

 

[ManBeast]

That's my rule 0 of a cycle

ManBeast

 

[kevinhy]

I posted an alternative in your other thread. I'll say it again here. Due to the half-life you could do 120 and 60 alternating to get a pseudo-90 for the first 2 weeks.

ManBeast

This is exactly what i would do.

 

[ssbackwards]

i like 120mg for 3 weeks then 90/60/30

i use it with clomid.

 

[asteele]

i like 120mg for 3 weeks then 90/60/30

i use it with clomid.

You use your serm for 6 weeks?

 

[Mrpersinality]

You use your serm for 6 weeks?

It's looking like he only uses it 3 weeks. I always go 4

 

[asteele]

It's looking like he only uses it 3 weeks. I always go 4

I'm definitely using it for 4 weeks. Question though, if im using forma stanzol during pct will that cover my AI or should i also pick up erase?

 

[asteele]

Bump

 

[ManBeast]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't serve as a solid AI.

ManBeast

 

[asteele]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't serve as a solid AI.

ManBeast

Once again, thanks manbeast.

 

[ssbackwards]

You use your serm for 6 weeks?

yes 6-8 weeks depending on how i feel.

 

[ssbackwards]

formastazol i would use in the beginning i wouldnt use it after the serm.

Personally i always stop all steroidal and non steroidal AIs 7-10 days before my serms.

i feel it protects much better against rebound.

 

[kevinhy]

formastazol i would use in the beginning i wouldnt use it after the serm.

Personally i always stop all steroidal and non steroidal AIs 7-10 days before my serms.

i feel it protects much better against rebound.

SERMs raise estrogen.

I feel its a better practice to extend an AI past a SERM to prevent excessive estrogen spikes

 

[ManBeast]

I agree.

ManBeast

 

[ssbackwards]

Torem has slight e2 lowering properties

Estrogen and ais need to be manipulated during pct

A steroidAl after a serm would be fine but nonsteroidal will upregulate e2 receptors.

You stop the ai prior to your serm prevents rebound from the upregulatiom and can bring e2 back to a normal level since most people over use their ais

 

[asteele]

Soooo. What should i do? I've always understood you want to use an AI during your pct. I've used erase in past with other pct's and not had any problems. Just haven't used forma stanzol, thought id give it a try.

 

[ssbackwards]

SERMs raise estrogen.

I feel its a better practice to extend an AI past a SERM to prevent excessive estrogen spikes

clomid yes, the others not so much.

But along with possible rise in estrogen is a DEFINETE rise in SHBG. remeber both are necessary evils in recovery and play an important role in sexual function

 

[ssbackwards]

Soooo. What should i do? I've always understood you want to use an AI during your pct. I've used erase in past with other pct's and not had any problems. Just haven't used forma stanzol, thought id give it a try.

id use it for a week or 2 in the middle of PCT

 

[asteele]

id use it for a week or 2 in the middle of PCT

And not use forma stanzol during pct? I was under the impression that forma was to be used at the end of a cycle and go through the pct?

 

[ssbackwards]

you can use it i wouldnt extend it past the serm, and id start the middle of PCT.

you can use it on cycle as well. but i would stop when starting PCT then add back in later.

 

[asteele]

you can use it i wouldnt extend it past the serm, and id start the middle of PCT.

you can use it on cycle as well. but i would stop when starting PCT then add back in later.

And this is because of estrogen rebound?

Oh, by the way I'm taking helladrol if that makes a difference or not.