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    Deca **** - HPTA Test Fine - NOTHING WORKS STILL :( PLEASE HELP Dostinex? OXYTOSIN?


    Hi there -

    I think I have Deca d*ck! I am past the point of suppression. All of my blood tests come back in the "normal" range - but I am still experiencing NO LIBIDO and SEVERE SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION.

    Has anyone had deca d*ck after they were done and it continued for a year + like me?

    I mean it is DEAD... It doesnt work and it really sucks. My doctors dont know what is wrong because my blood work comes back ok.

    I think there is something I can do :

    Proviron
    Propecia
    Dostinex
    Bromocriptine
    Oxytocin

    One of these? A combo? A certain regimen?

    Please post your experience and advice!!!
    Thanks!

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    viag or cial doesnt even work?
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    propecia will give you limp d!ck- Fact. It can also give you gyno. Still not sure of the long term effects of this one.

    it is one of the worst things you can take IMHO. I regret ever taking it.

    Not sure about the rest of those drugs mentioned but I have to say sustain alpha and testofen @ 1 gram a day actually worked wonders for my libido- no lie. if all else fails give it a go you have nothing to lose but a few bucks.

    I had a tough time recovering my sex drive from a harsh cycle (a really tough time), so i feel your pain. I ran the SA at full dose for two bottles and testofen throughout @ 1 gram a day and gradually my libido came back with a noticeable increase in sensitivity.

    the way I look at it is, sometimes the perscriptions have to many side effects for what they "do".

    one question- how old are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilllearnin1 View Post
    Hi there -

    I think I have Deca d*ck! I am past the point of suppression. All of my blood tests come back in the "normal" range - but I am still experiencing NO LIBIDO and SEVERE SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION.

    Has anyone had deca d*ck after they were done and it continued for a year + like me?

    I mean it is DEAD... It doesnt work and it really sucks. My doctors dont know what is wrong because my blood work comes back ok.

    I think there is something I can do :

    Proviron
    Propecia
    Dostinex
    Bromocriptine
    Oxytocin

    One of these? A combo? A certain regimen?

    Please post your experience and advice!!!
    Thanks!
    Did you run a solo deca cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCV3 View Post
    viag or cial doesnt even work?
    Not even close
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Did you run a solo deca cycle?
    Yes by itself i didnt know better at the time - i know now
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    propecia will give you limp d!ck- Fact. It can also give you gyno. Still not sure of the long term effects of this one.

    it is one of the worst things you can take IMHO. I regret ever taking it.

    Not sure about the rest of those drugs mentioned but I have to say sustain alpha and testofen @ 1 gram a day actually worked wonders for my libido- no lie. if all else fails give it a go you have nothing to lose but a few bucks.

    I had a tough time recovering my sex drive from a harsh cycle (a really tough time), so i feel your pain. I ran the SA at full dose for two bottles and testofen throughout @ 1 gram a day and gradually my libido came back with a noticeable increase in sensitivity.

    the way I look at it is, sometimes the perscriptions have to many side effects for what they "do".

    one question- how old are you?
    I am only 27. Are you still taking the SA? Or did the Testofen/SA stack seems to repair the problem once you got off of it?
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    define "normal" blood test.

    The male T range is 250-1200ng/dl.

    The allowed Estrogen range is too broad as well.

    Normal according to a doc means jack sh*t. Post you results. When I was at 300ng/dl (that of a 65yr old) the docs said I was normal. I was 20 yrd old. I'm now on TRT at 1000+ng/dl and triple the free T I used to have, now I feel "normal".
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    im havin the same problem. my total test was at 1028 and my estrogen was at 48.3 and i stil have no sex drive and cant get an erection. ive been to the endocrinologist and she said it will come back to normal eventually. im in the same boat dude. how long have you been off of your cycle?
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    have any of you checked your prolactin?

    You guys aren't being very conclusive by saying your blood tests are normal. You need to post the results.

    I'm willing to bet that prolactin is high and progesterone is high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    have any of you checked your prolactin?

    You guys aren't being very conclusive by saying your blood tests are normal. You need to post the results.

    I'm willing to bet that prolactin is high and progesterone is high.
    i will call my doctor monday and get the full results. all i asked her for was the total test and the e2 levels. if the prolacton and the progesterone are high then what can i do to fix those levels? or will they just come down on there own and ill be fine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    i will call my doctor monday and get the full results. all i asked her for was the total test and the e2 levels. if the prolacton and the progesterone are high then what can i do to fix those levels? or will they just come down on there own and ill be fine?
    cabergoline (dostinex)

    in the mean time, start taking 150-200mg of Vitamin B6 per day spaced out evenly. It will help if you have high prolactin by raising your dopmaine to counteract it. Ideally you would want to P5P form of B6, its better for your body. You could also try vitex.
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    did u have pre-cycle blood work done? cause that would be a good comparison. what did u run for pct?
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    I've been reading stuff on melatonin II the tanning drug and how one of the side effects are spontaneous erections . They say it effects the brain and not the body like most ED drugs . I looked into it cause i got shut down hard from spawn which was the first time i experienced any thing like that ,****in sucks . I think research chemicals have a oral form but i haven't tried it yet(mainly cause i don't have the money). I do take b6 every day now
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    cabergoline (dostinex)

    in the mean time, start taking 150-200mg of Vitamin B6 per day spaced out evenly. It will help if you have high prolactin by raising your dopmaine to counteract it. Ideally you would want to P5P form of B6, its better for your body. You could also try vitex.
    ok thanks. ill try the B6 if my prolactin levels are high.

    Quote Originally Posted by John manic View Post
    I've been reading stuff on melatonin II the tanning drug and how one of the side effects are spontaneous erections . They say it effects the brain and not the body like most ED drugs . I looked into it cause i got shut down hard from spawn which was the first time i experienced any thing like that ,****in sucks . I think research chemicals have a oral form but i haven't tried it yet(mainly cause i don't have the money). I do take b6 every day now
    how is the b6 working for you? notice any difference? if so how long did it take?



    p.s.- to the OP. im not trying to hijack your thread bro. if you want me to quit posting just lemme know.
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    Here they are:

    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 571 (241 - 827 ng/dL )
    LH 5.9 (1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL)
    FSH 2.5 (1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL )
    SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN 34 (7 - 49 nmol/L)
    T-4, FREE 1.1 (0.8 - 1.8 ng/dL)
    TSH 3.35 (0.40 - 4.50 mIU/L)
    LH 5.3 (1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL)
    FSH 3.5 (1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL)
    IGF-I 142 (126 - 382 ng/mL)
    PROLACTIN 4.6 (2.0 - 18.0 ng/mL)

    The only thing I dont have is DHT/DHN. I am thinking it has something to do with the way that 5alpha reductase is converting the testosterone now.

    There has to be someone out there who is like "I have had bad deca d*ck before even when my blood tests were showing "normal". Heres whats going on in your body due to the nondrolone and here what you have to do to reach homeostasis and be normal again" I KNOW YOU ARE OUT THERE. PLEEEASE?! POST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    ok thanks. ill try the B6 if my prolactin levels are high.



    how is the b6 working for you? notice any difference? if so how long did it take?



    p.s.- to the OP. im not trying to hijack your thread bro. if you want me to quit posting just lemme know.
    no worries man - I wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy! Let's see if we can't fix this! I just want my life back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilllearnin1 View Post
    no worries man - I wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy! Let's see if we can't fix this! I just want my life back!
    yea dude for sure.i want my life back as well. it sucks. how old are you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilllearnin1 View Post
    Here they are:

    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 571 (241 - 827 ng/dL )
    LH 5.9 (1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL)
    FSH 2.5 (1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL )
    SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN 34 (7 - 49 nmol/L)
    T-4, FREE 1.1 (0.8 - 1.8 ng/dL)
    TSH 3.35 (0.40 - 4.50 mIU/L)
    LH 5.3 (1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL)
    FSH 3.5 (1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL)
    IGF-I 142 (126 - 382 ng/mL)
    PROLACTIN 4.6 (2.0 - 18.0 ng/mL)

    The only thing I dont have is DHT/DHN. I am thinking it has something to do with the way that 5alpha reductase is converting the testosterone now.

    There has to be someone out there who is like "I have had bad deca d*ck before even when my blood tests were showing "normal". Heres whats going on in your body due to the nondrolone and here what you have to do to reach homeostasis and be normal again" I KNOW YOU ARE OUT THERE. PLEEEASE?! POST!
    and maybe im missing it but where are your e2 and progesterone levels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    and maybe im missing it but where are your e2 and progesterone levels?
    hmm well I have this one:
    ESTRADIOL 43 (13 - 54 pg/mL)

    but i guess didnt get a progesterone. ugh I will have to try to get that and add it to my request. its like pulling teeth getting blood work from these guys.

    Also, how will it affect the tests considering I am currently taking Clomid? But I guess my symptoms persist so the test may represent something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    yea dude for sure.i want my life back as well. it sucks. how old are you ?
    I am only 27
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilllearnin1 View Post
    hmm well I have this one:
    ESTRADIOL 43 (13 - 54 pg/mL)

    but i guess didnt get a progesterone. ugh I will have to try to get that and add it to my request. its like pulling teeth getting blood work from these guys.

    Also, how will it affect the tests considering I am currently taking Clomid? But I guess my symptoms persist so the test may represent something...

    All of you numbers look good excpet TSH and Estradiol. That E number is pretty damn high, enough to possibly loose sensativity and sex drive. However, it could just be influenced by the clomid.

    Take some arimidex to bring it down. You prolactin looks fine, along with testosterone. The TSH seems pretty elevated, could just be your body trying to adjust.

    I dont think progesterone is that necessary.
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    how much deca did yout take...have you ever taken it before? Did you feel bad while your were on it? If it was deca D*ck, it should have happend while you were taking it...now afterwards. Afterwards would seem like simple shutdown issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    how much deca did yout take...have you ever taken it before? Did you feel bad while your were on it? If it was deca D*ck, it should have happend while you were taking it...now afterwards. Afterwards would seem like simple shutdown issues.
    Deca has been known to cause extended ED to some even after a decent PCT that could last for years......
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Deca has been known to cause extended ED to some even after a decent PCT that could last for years......
    does the same go for tren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    does the same go for tren?
    yes - both are eventually giving your body nandrolone
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Deca has been known to cause extended ED to some even after a decent PCT that could last for years......
    yup! Does anyone know why the extended ed lasts so long? i think it has something to do to how some people's bodys react to the nandrolone and what happens to the 5alpha reductase enzyte - that my theory at this point at least
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    i got some good news!!!! last night i had the first sex dream ive had since i could remember and i woke up and it was rock hard!!!!!!! i was so excited i couldnt even sleep. i hope this means im getting better. but ive never heard of nandrolone. why do deca and tren have this in it and other ph's dont?
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    so I guess the lesson learned is stay away from progestins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    so I guess the lesson learned is stay away from progestins.
    what is a progestin?
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    Cant tell u how terrible this situtation sounds. I was toying with the idea of starting my first cycle. What exactly did your cycle consist of?
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    my blood work:

    testosterone, serum- 1029 ng/dl (280-800)
    free testosterone- 24.9 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
    LH- 18.0 (1.7-8.6)
    FSH- 11.6 (1.5-12.4)
    TSH- 1.630 (0.450-4.500)
    Estrodial- 48.3 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
    prolactin- 9.3 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)
    estrogens, total- 110 (40-115)

    I think i may have found the problem. my LH levels are super high... how did my endo not catch this? is she retarded? I researched a little bit and apparently this means my nuts are still shut down. im thinkin i should go ahead and start taking the clomid right away.

    p.s. this is while i was still on nolva. i did 40/40 then i was on 20 for 3 days and i got my blood taken on the third day of 20 mgs. this may be why my lh levels were so high.
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    YOUR LH IS HIGH BECAUSE OF SERM USAGE!!! You may have libido issues due to your prolactin and estradiol levels, are you blind mate!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    i got some good news!!!! last night i had the first sex dream ive had since i could remember and i woke up and it was rock hard!!!!!!! i was so excited i couldnt even sleep. i hope this means im getting better. but ive never heard of nandrolone. why do deca and tren have this in it and other ph's dont?
    Your brain is probably tricking your body into an ED problem (happens to some people).. Im on test now and I couldnt get it up to save my life last night...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    YOUR LH IS HIGH BECAUSE OF SERM USAGE!!! You may have libido issues due to your prolactin and estradiol levels, are you blind mate!?
    but my prolactin levels arent high? and my estrodial levels were only that high because of my high testosterone levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    i got some good news!!!! last night i had the first sex dream ive had since i could remember and i woke up and it was rock hard!!!!!!! i was so excited i couldnt even sleep. i hope this means im getting better. but ive never heard of nandrolone. why do deca and tren have this in it and other ph's dont?
    altninja - what have you been taking? or did it just come back? (and nandrolone is what deca is and tren converts to it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilllearnin1 View Post
    altninja - what have you been taking? or did it just come back? (and nandrolone is what deca is and tren converts to it)
    i havent been taking anything. im just trying to let my body do it on its own. i figure the more i **** with it, the longer its gonna take, unless im shut down. since i dont think im shutdown, im just letting my body return to homeostasis on its own. i can definitely feel my sex drive coming back. slowly but surely. may be a month or two till im back to normal completely.
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    maybe its the nolva...it kills my libido
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    maybe its the nolva...it kills my libido
    yea but for how long. ive been off it 15 days now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlninja82 View Post
    yea but for how long. ive been off it 15 days now.
    I hate to give any advice cause I ve never cycled. But you should consider the TRS stack to get you back in order.. I hear many people successfully use this to get back on track...
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