Epidrol cycle help!

[juganaught uk]

starting a 4 week cycle soon doing a month of protein powers and creatine to start then on to a 4 week cycle with epidrol

going to try this cycle out

week 1
10/20/30/30/30/30/30

week 2
30/30/30/30/30/30/30

week 3
30/30/30/30/30/40/40

Week 4
40/40/40/40/40/40/40

using milk thisel (liver support) thoughout 4 weeks then a week after

then taking 8 weeks off (with just protein and creatine)

what pct should i use after i finish week 4. and how long do i run pct for?

please help im starting pre month workout today.

 

[gymaddict20]

What are your age, training experience and PH experience?

 

[juganaught uk]

21 just starting to train again did train natual for 6 months wihout much incress of mass so looking for a different way to get bigger.

need a good pct.

 

[gymaddict20]

This isn't what you want to hear but its the truth. You need to wait before you can run anything. Get your self on a good bulking diet and continue your route. You are no where near you need to be naturally.

 

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

And was this going to be your first PH run?J/W?

 

[juganaught uk]

i did run magna drol for a month but didnt have time for gym so quit.

that was a while ago now and thought i would get back into it.

so ok i know what your saying i should be trainning for at least a couple yrs natural before i even think of taking plunge.

but i cant seem to improve much doing this way, weight is very hard to incress and keep on,

what would you sugest me using to build musscle and keep weight on.

i was using progain maximusscle?

was thinking of promax maximusscle and some sort of creatine.

what would be a good diet, and how many meals a day?

at the moment im 11.3 stone so 158 pounds
aiming for 15 stone so 210 pounds

Any ideas

 

[GeekPoop]

Estane 6 weeks 30-40mg


Inhibit E 2/2/1/1
PCT Assist
Reduce XT or Suppress C
Liver Assist XT

 

[pavy415]

I ran epidrol full 30 day cycle and I waited 3 days after to take my pct. When I was on epidrol I took advance liver support, with vitamins and with anti oxidents and I feel great now I'm also 21

 

[Cubate]

Take Geek Poops advice....
Run it properly if your going to attempt it.

 

[ecosocialist]

If you cant gain before a steroid, expect trouble holding and gaining afterwards. Diet and training come first with NO exceptions. I speak sadly from experience. I know how hard it is to gain weight but a steroid/pro hormone is not the solution. Diet is, review the bulking section, possibly post up a detailed thread. With dedication, you will see far superior results that way. When you really hit your barrier, then its time to steroid it up.

If you decide to run it anyways, which I dont suggest, please refer to Geekpoop's post religiously.

 

[j2048b]

Estane 6 weeks 30-40mg


Inhibit E 2/2/1/1
PCT Assist
Reduce XT or Suppress C
Liver Assist XT

So is this pretty much the "it" stack for pct while on epi? I wanted to ask because i just got me some epi and s-roid and i am a bit confused about the intake of both the epi and the s-roid?

Also a bit confused as to which product i run durring cycle and what i would use pct?


thanks for any info

 

[RCL86]

Im really suprised everyone is suggesting OTC for epi...

I just came off havoc and it shut me down worse than epol did. (30mg SD 60mg tren)
Im on week 4 of pct running clomid 50mg ED and reversitol (the original) just getting my libido back.

 

[Eric160]

Im really suprised everyone is suggesting OTC for epi...

I just came off havoc and it shut me down worse than epol did. (30mg SD 60mg tren)
Im on week 4 of pct running clomid 50mg ED and reversitol (the original) just getting my libido back.

sd and tren would shut u down way worse then epi because it already has antiestrogen characteristics itself tren is a progesterone and one of the worst PHs in terms of shutdown

 

[RCL86]

sd and tren would shut u down way worse then epi because it already has antiestrogen characteristics itself tren is a progesterone and one of the worst PHs in terms of shutdown

Read it again....HAVOC shut me down WORSE than epol.

Im just saying SERMS are just as cheap and proven. Thats why I was suprised that I didnt see nolva or clomid suggested as a pct for epi.

 

[GeekPoop]

So is this pretty much the "it" stack for pct while on epi? I wanted to ask because i just got me some epi and s-roid and i am a bit confused about the intake of both the epi and the s-roid?

Also a bit confused as to which product i run durring cycle and what i would use pct?


thanks for any info

s roid is a different animal there bud.

its superdrol and if youre going to use that, Id swap out the inhibit for clomi/nolva

what i listed was a pct, that you take after youre done with your cycle.
you can take hb/liver protecant on cycle but i doubt you'll have any issues or side effects with epi

Im really suprised everyone is suggesting OTC for epi...

I just came off havoc and it shut me down worse than epol did. (30mg SD 60mg tren)
Im on week 4 of pct running clomid 50mg ED and reversitol (the original) just getting my libido back.

do you have blood tests to prove or are you just going by libido?

 

[j2048b]

s roid is a different animal there bud.

its superdrol and if youre going to use that, Id swap out the inhibit for clomi/nolva

what i listed was a pct, that you take after youre done with your cycle.
you can take hb/liver protecant on cycle but i doubt you'll have any issues or side effects with epi

so it is safe to say i should not take the epi and the s-roid together then right? If that is the case i am kinda mad at the person who sold it to me and told me to take both 8 hours apart and to run epi 3 times a day.

Thanks for the advice geekpoop! appreciated

 

[RCL86]

do you have blood tests to prove or are you just going by libido?

No, dont have bloodwork and could of very well been more suppressed on epol, but still you dont recommend atleast having some nolva?

 

[wedlund6]

6 weeks is too long with a otc pct 4 weeks is the most you want to run.i have ran epi many time with a otc pct with good result ( and blood work) you should never run any cycle without a serm on hand. and if you have never ran it before you do not have any idea what kind of sides you mit get. get a serm

 

[GeekPoop]

No, dont have bloodwork and could of very well been more suppressed on epol, but still you dont recommend atleast having some nolva?

yeah clomi / nolva always. never leave home w/o it

 

[duke66]

Yeah, you're 21, and 6'2" 158 lbs. right? You have a lot of natural gaining you could do pretty easily with good diet and workout. Gear would be a waste of money for you. You should be crankin out a butt load of test on your own. Man I wish I was 21 again. Good luck with your run.

 

[Cubate]

Toremifene over Nolva and Clomid?
What you all think?

 

[RCL86]

yeah clomi / nolva always. never leave home w/o it

Ok thats all I was wondering about. I know you know what youre talking about, I was just really suprised no one said to atleast have a serm on hand.