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I took methadrol about 2.5 years ago. I only took it for 2 weeks, if that.

Ever since, i have had no sex drive. Its miserable. I've been to my own doctor, urologists, endocronologists, and a sex therapists, and have gotten nowhere.

I've had blood work done 3 times, and every time all my blood work is PERFECT!

Has this ever happened to anyone? it was the only time i ever did any prohormone cycle and i only did it for 2 weeks. Should i try to redo the cycle to see if i ca "reboot" my sexdrive with another PCT?

Today i am starting to try mass doses of MACA, i've heard this works for some people, hopefully it does for me.

ANY thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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Sustain Alpha as directed and 50mgs of 6-Bromo/day works wonders for me. Or an all in our product like Restore by ALRI worked real well for libido for me.
 
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I think its more likely psychological than physical
 
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I think its more likely psychological than physical
agreed. i had this same problem after a cycle once. i took a ED med once and got my confidence back, it also helps to have a GF/wife that will turn you on too.....
 
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Have you tried test boosters? There are a ton out there run a "cycle" of a test booster.
 
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I have the same problem. Its because my wife and I have been basically seperated that long-but still living in the same house. I'm not too worried, though, because other HOT women get my motor going.
 

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believe me for what i am going to say. if the blood results are ok, then it is in your head. go see a hypnotherapist, he will give you your libido back in no time, you will be so horny.

i am not joking, go see a very good hypnotherapist, the subconscious mind is the most powerful entity within our bodies.
 
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I do want to ask, when you say "blood work is perfect", what specific tests were run?
 

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did u do blood work before your cycle too? Regaurdless if the results post cycle are within the limits if they are not close to what your origanal results where you may have problems.

After two years though i would assume that most if not everything would have come back to normal on such a short cycle.

I have heard a great deal of good things about sustain alpha, and using some ED medication for giving you some confidence again. Some other people use clomid as like a restart for their test levels however if ur testosterone levels are normal there probably wouldnt be much benefit to this.
 

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hypnosis for sex drive (male impotence)

Efficacy of testosterone, trazodone and hypnotic suggestion in the treatment of non-organic male sexual dysfunction

Objective To examine the effects of hypnotic suggestions or the administration of testosterone or trazodone to impotent men with no detectable organic cause for the impotence.

Patients and methods The study comprised 79 men in whom clinical and laboratory examinations revealed no organic cause for their impotence; 20 men (mean age 38.7±11.47 years) received testosterone, 21 men (mean age 39.5±10.73 years) received trazodone, 20 men (mean age 34.2±11.69 years) underwent hypnosis and 18 men (mean age 39.1 ±11.46 years) served as controls. They were assessed by interview 4, 6 and 8 weeks after starting treatment; the patient's reports were verified by interviewing their partners.

Results Men who received a placebo had a 39% improvement in sexual function, while the rates of improvement in the treated groups were higher, but not significantly so. The success rates of testosterone and trazodone treatment and hypnotic suggestions were 60%, 67% and 80%, respectively.

Conclusion Although the improvement was not statistically significant, treatment with testosterone and trazodone could be used as an adjuvant therapy in non-organic male sexual dysfunction. The only treatment superior to placebo seemed to be hypnosis. A more effective treatment may be obtained by combining these therapeutic modalities, but this needs further study.


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10.1046/j.1464-410X.1996.86316.x About DOI


http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119198775/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
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Hey thusfare, i greatly appreciate everyones responses and help.

To be more specific:

I never got blood work done before the cycle. But, i did a pct, using test boosters and anti aromatase supplements. I experienced no gyno. Just lost sex drive.

I got all test levels, prolactin, thyroid...etc.. EVERYTHING you could imagine, tested 3times, and everytime they were all right smack in the middle. cholestarol and everything. perfect.

for 2.5 years i've been miserable and screwed. Life sucks. Its not like i'm not out looking for solutions every single day of my life, every day for 2.5 years this has consumed my life. I've tried stuff to increase my dopamine levels, and that just makes me angrier, i been to many different doctors, who have nothing to tell me because my blood work is fine, i've tried test boosters from vitaminshoppe repeatedly. I've tried ED pills, but my issue is even getting aroused in the first place-which ED pills don't do anything unless you can get aroused to begin with.

I went to Boston Med. group, and explained to him what/when it all started, and he said if i had been an avid steroid user, than he could see me losing my libido for good, but after one cycle of 2 weeks/ with good blood work afterward- i should be normal.

I know it all started when i took the methadrol though, i could feel myself shutting down sexually, which is why i got off it after only 2 weeks.

But i will definetly look into Sustain Alpha and Restore. AND I'll ablsolutely be looking into hypnotherapy! i somewhat dabbled with the idea, btter never went through with it. At this point everything I think of, I think of negatively since nothing else has worked, But i'll surely look into all the advice you all have given me.

if anyone has anymore advice, i'd be more than welcome to look into.

thanks again!

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I got all test levels, prolactin, thyroid...etc.. EVERYTHING you could imagine, tested 3times, and everytime they were all right smack in the middle. cholestarol and everything. perfect.
LH, FSH, ultrasensitive e2 as well? Its like with "hard gainers", when people say they everything they can, sometimes it still doesn't amount to much :)
 

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Jimbo, i appreciate the offer, and i may take you up on the offer, i'll let you know. I just scheduled to see a hypnotherapist who says he can help and has helped others in my position. I'm going to see how it goes.

The hypnotherapist sounded confident that he could help me, i'm trying to think positive about it. I'm desperately hoping this helps.

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Jimbo, i appreciate the offer, and i may take you up on the offer, i'll let you know. I just scheduled to see a hypnotherapist who says he can help and has helped others in my position. I'm going to see how it goes.

The hypnotherapist sounded confident that he could help me, i'm trying to think positive about it. I'm desperately hoping this helps.

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good luck man, let me know if you want to take me up on that
 

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That is a great offer jimbo And pp have offered you, you should certainly take him up on it. Sa is for real.
 
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Jimbo, i appreciate the offer, and i may take you up on the offer, i'll let you know. I just scheduled to see a hypnotherapist who says he can help and has helped others in my position. I'm going to see how it goes.

The hypnotherapist sounded confident that he could help me, i'm trying to think positive about it. I'm desperately hoping this helps.

tiger
Good luck with the hypnotherapist. It sounds like that should help you if your levels are fine. It seems that maybe when you when started losing your libido during the cycle it freaked you out enough to stop the cycle early. Since then you have probably been too stressed out to get it back because you think that you have "lost" it for good. Scary.
 

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It is scary. and yes, the reason why i stopped the cycle so quickly is because i lost my libido, and then after stressing about it, i eventually lost it for good, and by this time, i'm unable to get it back, unless the hypnotherapist, who says he can help, can delve deep into my brain and bring up those sexual/erotic thoughts that make some1 horny.

If it doesn't work it, which i really hope it does obviously, and he sounded very positive about being about to help me, then i'll certainly be up for trying the Sustain alpha or the myogenix.

I'm just gonna give this a try first, in the mindset that it is going to work for me. Gotta think positive.

thanks again for everyones input.

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is sustain alpha a test booster? because my test is normal. Is it a libido enhancer in gel form?

How do you cycle it? with estrogen blockers and what not or is something you can just use and when your done with it your done with it?

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is sustain alpha a test booster? because my test is normal. Is it a libido enhancer in gel form?

How do you cycle it? with estrogen blockers and what not or is something you can just use and when your done with it your done with it?

tiger
it boosts natural test production. it is a liquid. it is generally used as pct or during a cycle to keep libido up. you can just use it and be done with it. chances are that it would boost libido as long as you were using it. it should be used five days on, two days off, just to keep your body from adjusting to it.
 
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I'd get in touch with one of the endo's from All Things Male et al and ask for a clomid challenge test.
 
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you wont need a hypnotherapist if you take the black magic. im telling you the slightest thought or stimulation will get you going. you wont be disappointed.
 
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So if you get down with a good looking girl you just aren't interested? Or you can't get wood? 2 years is a long time. I don't see steroids turning off the libido like that. Take Viagra or Cialis. That should do the trick, especially if it's a pyschological issue.

If you plan on running a cycle to try to "re-boot" your sex drive, run pheraplex. It gives some people a bump in their sex drive and bigger boners.

If nothing else works, check out this thread:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/143205-i-have-winter.html

I apologize deeply in advance if the thread above causes you any frustration. I am just trying to help.
 
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i would talk to the doc. and if all fails sustian alpha is a great test/ libido booster. used it over the summer and it worked wonders
 

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herbal stack:
saw palmetto
nettle
ginseng(american, korean)
maca
Zinc 25mg

do normal doses of those. ginseng 3 hrs after waking nettle later in the day and maca in the evening and saw palmetto before bed with the zinc. also check your bloodpressure and cholesterol.
 
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wow, maybe that's what happened to my wife!?!

I took methadrol about 2.5 years ago. I only took it for 2 weeks, if that.

Ever since, i have had no sex drive. Its miserable. I've been to my own doctor, urologists, endocronologists, and a sex therapists, and have gotten nowhere.

I've had blood work done 3 times, and every time all my blood work is PERFECT!

Has this ever happened to anyone? it was the only time i ever did any prohormone cycle and i only did it for 2 weeks. Should i try to redo the cycle to see if i ca "reboot" my sexdrive with another PCT?

Today i am starting to try mass doses of MACA, i've heard this works for some people, hopefully it does for me.

ANY thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Tiger
 

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i had the same problem n what worked 4 me was a change in diet imo ...do the testoserone diet
 

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blood pressure and cholesterol is perfect.

Well i already got 6 sessions, the full plan, with a hypnotherapist. In 6 weeks from tonight he says i should be out the door and back to my normal life. and since i prepaid, i'm gonna go head with all of it (obivously) and see how it all works. He said he's dealt with people with the same situation.

And to answer the question earlier, its more like, i don't have libido. Cialis and viagra only work, if you have libido-actually care about having sex/sexual stimulation. I don't have much/any libido to begin with. i mean, my last girlfriend was pretty much the hottest girl i've ever seen-cheerleader for a professional football team-thats about as smokin as they come-- but that didn't even matter, because i just had zero libido and never was in the mood to have sex.

If the hypnotherapy doesn't work/ which i REALLY hope it does, i'm definitely going to try the sustain alpha and black magic.

again thanks to all you and your input and help and advice.

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well hypnosis didn't really do much. Not to say i don't appreciate the recommendation from those who said i should try it.

1 thing i've noticed in the past 2.5 years. I am extremely horny ONLY when im hungover. and thats not "in my head". I have had 2.5years to observe my body and thats the truth. I actually have sex drive, without trying, when i'm hungover. And as the hangover wears off, so does my libido. So i have been trying to investigate what happens to the body when your hungover, and hopefully that will give me a lead into what it over abundant, or maybe defecient in my body.

Possibly neurotransmitters, which i believe i am going to try to schedule with a psych or some type of doctor to try and test me for me stuff that could be wrong with me. Because again, all test levels thyroid adrenal...have been tested multiple times with perfect results.

I think there is a correlation between neurotransmitters and steroids/pro hormones as well.

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well hypnosis didn't really do much. Not to say i don't appreciate the recommendation from those who said i should try it.

1 thing i've noticed in the past 2.5 years. I am extremely horny ONLY when im hungover. and thats not "in my head". I have had 2.5years to observe my body and thats the truth. I actually have sex drive, without trying, when i'm hungover. And as the hangover wears off, so does my libido. So i have been trying to investigate what happens to the body when your hungover, and hopefully that will give me a lead into what it over abundant, or maybe defecient in my body.

Possibly neurotransmitters, which i believe i am going to try to schedule with a psych or some type of doctor to try and test me for me stuff that could be wrong with me. Because again, all test levels thyroid adrenal...have been tested multiple times with perfect results.

I think there is a correlation between neurotransmitters and steroids/pro hormones as well.

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I'm a recovering alcoholic, been clean & sober for 5 years. I couldn't agree with you more on the hang over horniness thing. It is a real phenomenon, prevelant in women as well. I think it's the body's way of urging us to release endorphins that releive pain, i.e. hangover. I've had a million hangovers. Trust me, this is a truism.
 

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Anyone else find it ironic that Tiger is having sex problems?
 

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libido is a strange thing, it has link to hormone level, but can also be independent from it.
what kind of 'lost' you have? do you have sexual desire in any case except hangover? do you still have the need to masturbate or watching a porn?

Although it can be psycological, i think totally lost libido for 2 years is physically abnormal, like depression for more than 3 months is not just psycological. Even all your hormone blood test result is normal, you might have some in-brain-chemicals problem.

and did your 2 weeks cycle 2 years ago caused this? possible. you lost libido since then. can PHs influence in-brain-chemistry? surely it can.

for how to get it back, depends on how bad your libido brain was damaged. You can try different kinds of supplements, or just wait it back.... scientists havn't fully found out how human beings generate libido. If I were you, I won't mind to try different kind of therapies, maybe one of them will help.

but if you have other syndrome like depress, unstable mood,... you might need to consider it's a sign of other disease.
 

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there is an article, you might want to take a look....
although it's about women :p
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From The Sunday Times
January 1, 2006
Pill can leave a libido hangover
Steven Swinford

WOMEN who use oral contraceptives could suffer a long-term loss of sex drive after coming off the pill, according to new research.

American scientists have discovered that a chemical produced by the pill to stop ovulation continues to suppress testosterone levels — central to desire in men and women — for up to a year after women stop taking it.

A seven-year study shows that women on the pill had four times the level of sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), which stops testosterone from circulating in the body, as those who had never taken the pill.

Yet even 12 months after they stopped using the pill, women had twice as much of the chemical in their bodies as those who had never used oral contraception.
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interesting. I wonder if oral winny lowers shbg in women the way it does in men?
 

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interesting. I wonder if oral winny lowers shbg in women the way it does in men?
I don't know. I think men and women respond to this kind of compounds very differently.
that study describes SHBG level and lost libido, but maybe SHBG is not the only mechanism those women lost libido through.
 

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OP not to be disrespectful, not to be an *******, but seriously if you have problems getting interested in a professional cheerleader, is there a chance you might be barking up the wrong tree?

Is there a slight chance of you possibly being gay?
 
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OP not to be disrespectful, not to be an *******, but seriously if you have problems getting interested in a professional cheerleader, is there a chance you might be barking up the wrong tree?

Is there a slight chance of you possibly being gay?
Is every man that takes Viagra to get an erection gay?? A
 

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I took methadrol about 2.5 years ago. I only took it for 2 weeks, if that.

Ever since, i have had no sex drive. Its miserable. I've been to my own doctor, urologists, endocronologists, and a sex therapists, and have gotten nowhere.

I've had blood work done 3 times, and every time all my blood work is PERFECT!

Has this ever happened to anyone? it was the only time i ever did any prohormone cycle and i only did it for 2 weeks. Should i try to redo the cycle to see if i ca "reboot" my sexdrive with another PCT?

Today i am starting to try mass doses of MACA, i've heard this works for some people, hopefully it does for me.

ANY thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Tiger
The only time this happened to me was when i was battling with depression. You could have tossed Hallie Berry and Megan Fox in front of me, butt naked, with some Cialis and I would have not budged for the sex part. It was only after I conquered the depression that my sex drive came back. That whole black hole lasted about 2.5 years or so. I did occasionally have sex during the depression but I would feel even worse a day or so after. I finally just quit having it for 12 months straight, i think.
 

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Have you ever considered the fact that you may not be into women? I am just asking here?
 

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gay also has libido.
not interested in women is different from low libido.
the point is if one wants to have sex with anyone attractive, or even to masturbate.

I am not sure how suitable to ask him if he is gay since libido is not linked to sexual orientation.
 

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gay also has libido.
not interested in women is different from low libido.
the point is if one wants to have sex with anyone attractive, or even to masturbate.

I am not sure how suitable to ask him if he is gay since libido is not linked to sexual orientation.
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That's why I asked if he was interested in women. Perhaps a person could have had urges for sex if approached by the same sex?
 

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look tiger it's pretty simple

please post all of your lab work, smack in the middle doesn't mean ****

post it here, or at the all things male section

then we can look where the issue lies (midrange shbg is NOT good for example)
 

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well, I haven't obivously been on here for a while.

No, i'm not gay. I just don't have sex drive. I don't really have the urge to masterbate.

Its very similar to the depression situation. You could put the most gorgeous women infront of me naked, with a bottle of viagra and it wouldn't really matter.

the best way i can describe it is...
I am not "mentally strong enough" to get myself aroused. Its like i don't have the ability, mentally, to look at a girl, rub on a girl, etc..and have it arouse me, and get my adrenaline going..its like a have no "mojo".

The problem is, yeah i think depression has set in, BUT, the depression has been caused by this situation.

I believe i am going to get all bloodwork done AGAIN. I would like to, if i can, get my neurotransmitters tested. i have seen psychologists and "talked" about my issues and done therapy for hyposexual desire disorder, yadda yadda yadda, nothing has helped.

If nothing is wrong still, my only option, in my opinion is to try to "reboot" hormones.
Trying to take a prohormone again, like it take my natural testosterone away, then "reboot" all my hormones with a solid, properly thought out, STRONG, thorough, PCT.
Hoping it may spark or reactivate the proper connections in my body. LONG SHOT, but i may just have to try it.

Like i said, i have looked at this situation at every angle, and have tried so many things. Its so frustrating, and draining.

Maybe, i do have sex drive, but i don't ever try to use it, because its like, i don't have the MENTAL capacity to actually get aroused, and sexually stimulated...so i just avoid all sexual situations in general.
the only time, i have the MENTAL strength to get aroused and horny, is when i'm extremely hungover..which is why i looked into what happens to the body when your hungover...all the connections and actions and reactions etc. to maybe find out what may be wrong with me..but i haven't really gotten anywhere with that.

But that is the little hope of i have to be normal. I do know that the "proper connections" in my body, aren't completely lost..because i do feel "normal" when i'm extremely hungover.

What a mess. Its so draining, i wish i'd be "normal" so i could move on with my life.


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any suggestions on a prohormone, that could shut me down good...

and then a solid reliable PCT with all proper PCT-ingredients, so to speak? for me to try, that for any "normal" person, would get there sex drive off the charts?

(clomid, sustain alpha...etc)

tiger
 

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