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    Ok, so i stole this from another forum but not sure what the rules are on citing. So i wont post it till you guys clarify it for me =) But here it is.

    "PROHORMONE PCT


    Most of us, who have been on this board for some time, know that you need a PCT after a PP or SD cycle. New members ask why we need to take all of these substances after a cycle. During a PP or SD cycle, your natural testosterone production can shut down. For many individuals the reduced natural test while put a halt to your sperm production. This is a problem if you want to have a child. After you finish your cycle, it can take months before your body starts to produce test on its own. During this time, your strength levels will diminish, your body fat levels will rise, and you could suffer from depression and have the temptation to jump on again. This would only make matters worse.

    What might a typical PCT look like?
    Weeks 1-4 100mg of Clomid (SERM) and 25mg of Aromasin (AI)

    Why not nolva? Superdrol and pheraplex are progestins which means that means that nolva can cause or make existing gyno worse. Macrophage69alpha (supplement guru): Clomid does not upregulate the PgR (as nolva does). After speaking with Macro, he recommended stacking clomid (SERM) and aromasin (AI) together. The aromasin is not supposed to have a negative impact on blood lipid levels, like other AI's can.

    What are some support supplements that I should be concerned with? Go to the supplement forum and examine, closely, Bryan2's stickie on cholesterol, liver, and blood pressure support supplements.

    Because SD and PP are progestins, they can be hard on your libido and your ability to have erections, during PCT. I've found that 800-1200mg of tongkat ali to be a good choice for libido purposes. As for the ability to have erections, then the cialis (or viagra) is the only way to go. I prefer cialis because it stays in your system for 36 hours. This lets you be more spontaneous, which your woman will appreciate. "

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    There is no evidence that superdrol or pheraplex are progestational to any significant degree.
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    all I can say is wow, is that off. although clomid in place of nolva makes some sense, the reasoning is crazy.
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    That is a new info, and prolly wrong.

    IMO, nolva only make prolactin worse if there was any prolactin in the 1st place. It won't make you lactate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    That is a new info, and prolly wrong.

    IMO, nolva only make prolactin worse if there was any prolactin in the 1st place. It won't make you lactate.
    Wow, you really don't know the difference between progesterone and prolactin, do you? This is the second thread where you appear to be using the two interchangeably.
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    nolva-


    Serms in general are a very heated subject by alot of members on here. I personally dont care for Nolva. I wont use it.

    I use clomid and ldex.

    I still have L-tor sitting that i havent used. Which is "supposed" to work like nolva but with ALOT less sides.

    This is just my choice.

    Clomid is no angel for sure, but heres a tid bit on nolva.

    http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html
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    like i said i pulled it off another site and without even thinking i assumed them to be progestins mainly due to my previous experiences with them (libido issues). my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwick View Post
    Ok, so i stole this from another forum but not sure what the rules are on citing. So i wont post it till you guys clarify it for me =) But here it is.

    "PROHORMONE PCT


    Most of us, who have been on this board for some time, know that you need a PCT after a PP or SD cycle. New members ask why we need to take all of these substances after a cycle. During a PP or SD cycle, your natural testosterone production can shut down. For many individuals the reduced natural test while put a halt to your sperm production. This is a problem if you want to have a child. After you finish your cycle, it can take months before your body starts to produce test on its own. During this time, your strength levels will diminish, your body fat levels will rise, and you could suffer from depression and have the temptation to jump on again. This would only make matters worse.

    What might a typical PCT look like?
    Weeks 1-4 100mg of Clomid (SERM) and 25mg of Aromasin (AI)

    Why not nolva? Superdrol and pheraplex are progestins which means that means that nolva can cause or make existing gyno worse. Macrophage69alpha (supplement guru): Clomid does not upregulate the PgR (as nolva does). After speaking with Macro, he recommended stacking clomid (SERM) and aromasin (AI) together. The aromasin is not supposed to have a negative impact on blood lipid levels, like other AI's can.

    What are some support supplements that I should be concerned with? Go to the supplement forum and examine, closely, Bryan2's stickie on cholesterol, liver, and blood pressure support supplements.

    Because SD and PP are progestins, they can be hard on your libido and your ability to have erections, during PCT. I've found that 800-1200mg of tongkat ali to be a good choice for libido purposes. As for the ability to have erections, then the cialis (or viagra) is the only way to go. I prefer cialis because it stays in your system for 36 hours. This lets you be more spontaneous, which your woman will appreciate. "
    SD and PP arent progestins, but 5a reduced steroids, reduce E2 and Raise Prolactin not because they are progestins but for another reason also 5a reduced steroids increase Pr Expression from a study i read
  

  
 

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