My OTC Havoc PCT Advice Please

[cr1251]

Hi

Just wondering whether this would be ok for pct after the following cycle

PCT
AICycle support
Liver longer
Testabolan
6oxo

I will also have Clomid on hand just in case but dont intend to use it due to people i know having vision related sides.

Cycle
Day-1-2 Methyl E 10mg Propadrol 60mg
Day-3-4 Methyl E 20mg Propadrol 60mg
Day-5-30 Methyl E 30mg Propadrol 60mg

Any opinions would be great

Thanks
Karl

 

[bigpapa]

pct i would run:

Clomid
PCT Assist, PCS, Reversitol or 6-oxo
Cort blocker
creatine and other supps.

 

[crazyfool405]

pct i would run:

Clomid
PCT Assist, PCS, Reversitol or 6-oxo
Cort blocker
creatine and other supps.

good PCT right here!!!

listen to this guy

 

[bigpapa]

good PCT right here!!!

listen to this guy

thanks bro.

 

[crazyfool405]

thanks bro.

.....:thumbsup:

 

[Chub]

i take it your stats are wrong 6'0" 80 lbs?

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I like the Clomid and Post Cycle Support pct.

 

[crazyfool405]

I like the Clomid and Post Cycle Support pct.

me too!!!:fing02:

 

[cr1251]

Hi guys

Thanks so much for the advice. Im just a bit worried about the clomid as i said I know people who have had bad sides from it. I think i may have found a source for nolvadex though, would this not work as well?

Also yeah the stats are wrong That would make me pretty underweight!!! I will change them.

Thanks again

 

[bigpapa]

ur using a progesterone...aka propadrol..clomid will be ur best bet

 

[cr1251]

Ok I guess I should go for Clomid then. Should I start taking all of the pct supps the day after my last dose? And would a Clomid dosing of 50/50/25/25 be ok? #

Thanks for your help

 

[bigpapa]

Ok I guess I should go for Clomid then. Should I start taking all of the pct supps the day after my last dose? And would a Clomid dosing of 50/50/25/25 be ok? #

Thanks for your help

those clomid doses are fine

i would do clomid starting the next day after ur last dose
clomid weeks 1-4
PCS 2-5
Cort blocker 3-6 (i know crazyfool is going to dispute this)

 

[nickrut]

those clomid doses are fine

i would do clomid starting the next day after ur last dose
clomid weeks 1-4
PCS 2-5
Cort blocker 3-6 (i know crazyfool is going to dispute this)

Looks good. I personally prefer PCS weeks 3-6, but its really up to you.

 

[crazyfool405]

those clomid doses are fine

i would do clomid starting the next day after ur last dose
clomid weeks 1-4
PCS 2-5
Cort blocker 3-6 (i know crazyfool is going to dispute this)

yea ur right lol

Heres my vision

if ur using a Research chem i would dose blomid at 100/100/50/50

if using pills 50/50/50/50

every thing looks fine i would start cort blocker week one!!!! when T levels are low Cortisol levels are high

Also depending on you last does i would take it that night or in the morning.

 

[bigpapa]

every thing looks fine i would start cort blocker week one!!!! when T levels are low Cortisol levels are high

for my next cycle, im going to try this. see if i see a difference. its time to put this hypothesis into action lol

 

[Cordeen]

Good idea to ramp down your 6OXO by 100mg/week towards the end of PCT.

 

[cr1251]

Hi

Thanks for all the advice. Would there be any downside to starting the cort blocker on week 1? Also which is the best one to go for?

Thanks in advance

 

[Chub]

Hi

Thanks for all the advice. Would there be any downside to starting the cort blocker on week 1? Also which is the best one to go for?

Thanks in advance

Some people start it week 3 and some start it week 1. Look into Lean xtreme by Designer Supplements. it's a popular choice

 

[charley]

i've been told that using clomid ....messes up you're eye sight.......and that nolva was better........

 

[bigpapa]

i've been told that using clomid ....messes up you're eye sight.......and that nolva was better........

at high doses aka 100+ yes it can make ur vision blurry at times. but since he is using a progestin compound..clomid is better.

 

[charley]

Thank you ...''bigpapa''...... this stuff seems tough for me to understand....... this new school of drugs is beyond my understanding.........I have always stuck to the basic's..
..........TEST.....TEST.....TEST........

 

[bigpapa]

Thank you ...''bigpapa''...... this stuff seems tough for me to understand....... this new school of drugs is beyond my understanding.........I have always stuck to the basic's..
..........TEST.....TEST.....TEST........

it is tough to understand no doubt. and hey, test is good stuff. lol

 

[cr1251]

Yeah i was a bit worried about using Clomid because a friend had vision problems from it. Are they ever permanent? Also hasnt lean xtreme been discontinued. I cant find it anywhere.

Thanks

 

[charley]

cr1251.........you're stats say that you're 6' tall and weigh 80lbs.........is that even possible?????????

 

[bam8382]

help!!

Hi guys

Thanks so much for the advice. Im just a bit worried about the clomid as i said I know people who have had bad sides from it. I think i may have found a source for nolvadex though, would this not work as well?

Also yeah the stats are wrong That would make me pretty underweight!!! I will change them.

Thanks again

can't take my havoc until i find a source for nolvadex so that i can run a PCT in 4 weeks. tell me what i need and where i can get it!!!!

 

[charley]

i don't think people are allowed to write about sources on this site......
why don't you try to ''google.com'' your sak off.........it works for me...........

 

[tim1985]

Google "research chemicals" and don't ask for sources here.

 

[bam8382]

thanks for the half-hearted advice. i'm new, i didn't know you weren't supposed to ask for sources on AM. I can ask this: why is Havoc legal, but many PCT options require a subscription? Or am I mistaken there too?

 

[tim1985]

thanks for the half-hearted advice. i'm new, i didn't know you weren't supposed to ask for sources on AM. I can ask this: why is Havoc legal, but many PCT options require a subscription? Or am I mistaken there too?

I gave you the info you need in my previous post.

 

[charley]

yo bam8382.......try asking on the sly....[pm].... i for one have never used an OTC substance........ some guys on this site have informed me that some things[OTC] really work..
......i will say that learning how to find the 'real deal' is part of the process....