PCT timing...when do I take what?

  1. PCT timing...when do I take what?


    About all I am certain about is starting liquid nolva and creatine the day after my last epi-popping good time.

    So yeah, 5 -week epistane cycle, 20, 30, 40, 40-50, 50....

    I tried this before but all I got was "restore has 'stuff' in it"

    But I gots dis.....
    Tamox-citrate,
    Restore,
    Z-Force,
    DHEA ( the hormone-helper caps),
    Creatine mono-hydrate, and
    $10 (why not) Alpha Drive XL.

    So could I get some suggestions on which of the 5 weeks of PCT I should start taking the above mentioned supps?

    Thank you muchly.
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by waynaferd View Post
    About all I am certain about is starting liquid nolva and creatine the day after my last epi-popping good time.

    So yeah, 5 -week epistane cycle, 20, 30, 40, 40-50, 50....

    I tried this before but all I got was "restore has 'stuff' in it"

    But I gots dis.....
    Tamox-citrate,
    Restore,
    Z-Force,
    DHEA ( the hormone-helper caps),
    Creatine mono-hydrate, and
    $10 (why not) Alpha Drive XL.

    So could I get some suggestions on which of the 5 weeks of PCT I should start taking the above mentioned supps?

    Thank you muchly.
    dont use alpha drive XL, it has 6 DMT in it which is a steroid (but a weak one)

    Tamoxifen- 20 mg for 4 weeks at night
    Restore (as directed on the label but tapered down the last few days) 1 cap am 2 PM if it calls for 3 caps a day

    DHEA- i would say NO MORE then 50 mg.
    creatine mono 5 g in the morning and 5 g post workout

  3. Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    dont use alpha drive XL, it has 6 DMT in it which is a steroid (but a weak one)

    Tamoxifen- 20 mg for 4 weeks at night
    Restore (as directed on the label but tapered down the last few days) 1 cap am 2 PM if it calls for 3 caps a day

    DHEA- i would say NO MORE then 50 mg.
    creatine mono 5 g in the morning and 5 g post workout
    So just start it all in week 1 of PCT?

    And I'll leave the Alpha Drive out, and save it for something else sometime.

    Thanks!!
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!
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  4. Why would you take DHEA in PCT? That is also a steroid and will also suppress you.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimalG View Post
    Why would you take DHEA in PCT? That is also a steroid and will also suppress you.
    I was looking at it at the Wal-Mart pharmacy.....blah blah something about supporting hormone levels for old people blah blah.....Not the topical stuff....
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimalG View Post
    Why would you take DHEA in PCT? That is also a steroid and will also suppress you.
    It is a prohormone and it may have suppressive actions with high doses. 50 mgs a day will not suppress you.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimalG View Post
    Why would you take DHEA in PCT? That is also a steroid and will also suppress you.

    in high doses, but some people swear by it, i dont use it, but its used for cortisol control. and 50mg wont do much in terms of suppression,

    and its not a steroid its a precursor to test and andro, but has poor conversion to it.

  8. Better off using 7-keto DHEA during PCT, and regular DHEA during cycle.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Better off using 7-keto DHEA during PCT, and regular DHEA during cycle.
    \x2....

  10. 7-keto dhea makes sense. But any amount of additional exogenous hormones is going to supress you to some degree you may not be shut down entirely, but producing slightly less than you would have been otherwise. Isn't that contrary to the point of PCT?

  11. Yup.
    Remember why you started.

  12. 25-50mg of dhea will help your mood and sex drive. Take it if you want.

    It made a world of difference especially on my cycle. So now I take 25mg frequently
  

  
 

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