Approval Poll"hows George W Bush Doing" ???
- 06-24-2007, 07:37 AM
Approval Poll"hows George W Bush Doing" ???
********: GEORGE W BUSH HISTORICAL POLL SLIDE ???
This is a historical poll across the terms of recent presidents
GWB like Barry Bonds is closing in on some big names, like his dad, then Carter and Ford!
He is heading down toward Nixon / Truman territory !!
- 06-25-2007, 09:44 AM
He soundly beat Ford. While he isn't as low as his dad's lowest rating he's lower than his dad's final rating.
The drop in Nixon was only because of Watergate. Before Watergate broke his approval ratings were phenominal. After they dropped to nothing. Honestly I don't really count that. Really Nixon wasn't such a bad President. In fact I'd say he was a pretty good one. He did a lot of good with respect to the US's international trade relations, especially with China. Although Nixon did take us off the Gold Standard which probably wasn't a smart idea.
Carter and Truman really and truly sucked.
- 06-25-2007, 09:53 AM
I guarantee GWB's approval ratings go up before his term is over, not because there is no other way for them to go either. I believe that Iraq is at a tipping point and could go our way for a change. The other big mideast crisis with Israel and Palestine is coming to a head and negotiations can finally begin anew, Lebanon is heading in the right direction, and Iran may begin to negotiate over their stopping their pursuit of nukes, as North Korea is apparently already doing. But, the major force is the economy, and all is going well on that front. The RNC is waiting to get it's media machine cranking for 2008, when they do, everything GWB has done that is positive will be touted, and his ratings will soar. If they sold stock in him, I'd buy while it was at this current low!
06-25-2007, 10:11 AM
06-25-2007, 10:19 AM
06-25-2007, 10:31 AM
i approve of GW. he gets an undeserving amount of negative critisism. most people dont comprehend that someone in his position is much more informed with classified information in comparison to the general public. i cant wait for a dem to get elected and not change anything about our efforts on the war on terror when he or she(god forbid) is in office. since i find homealnd security to be a priority, im happy with the efforts thus far.
06-25-2007, 10:33 AM
06-25-2007, 11:17 AM
GWB doesn't take any half-measures, he goes all out. When congress was calling for a pullout, he did a surge in troop levels. I think this was the right course of action based on the needs in the country, I think we have to secure Iraq to ensure any future stability for our own country, and I know fighting the terrorists in Iraq definitely draws down their resources to fight us over here, a good thing in my mind. I still see a big jump in his poll numbers come the end of this year.
06-25-2007, 11:34 AM
WTF are we there again?
I'm gonna be blunt and honest here. I don't give a crap what happens to the people in Iraq and neither should our military. Their job aint protecting the world its protecting America and they aint doing that sitting in Iraq. The CIA has reported that the Iraq war has and continues to increase the likelihood of terrorist attack on the US.
"Cut and run" is propaganda bullcrap. Reality folks: it's called baliing out of a project we never should have started in the first place. We don't belong there, we never belonged there. It was retarded to start the war in the first place and even MORE retarded to stay. No we should not "see this through." You'd gain more financial benefit from paying billions of federal funding to verify the viscosity of catsup.
Seriously if we "see this through" what do we get? A peaceful iraq? First of all, not a chance in hell. Second, even if we did, WHO CARES?! How exactly does that in any way benefit Americans, that the Iraqis are living in peace? Call me heartless if you want, but I'm just being pragmatic. Clean up your own house before you start looking to clean up someone else's. And when you realise you are spending money on a project that is worthless, you end the project, you don't "see it through."
I don't blaim Bush for that though. I blaim everyone in Washington who goes along with it. I'm also sick of Democrats compromising. There should be no compromise. get the troops out and stop all funding for the war immediately. We're hemoraging cash at a sickening rate because fo this crap.
06-25-2007, 11:54 AM
So your what? Judge and jury? I don't give a crap what you say. Fairness doctorine in motion here
06-25-2007, 11:58 AM
06-25-2007, 12:01 PM
Read your own post,figure it out your self I will post later on tonight via 3rd shift 11-7 Later
06-25-2007, 12:27 PM
You claim not to care about the Iraqi's, and that is fine by me. Our goals in Iraq are not about saving Iraqi's, they are to keep Iraq from becoming another Iran, who, since Carter blew the chance in the 70's to stop the Islamic revolution, have been major source of funding for terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Now, what do you care if the terrorize the middle east? Hezbollah has published plans to destroy the US and has planned attacks on US targets. Luckily, Lebanon is cracking down on Hezbollah, Hamas is infighting with Fatah, and neither group can spend resources on the US. THIS IS OUR GOAL! Winning wars is not about body count or flashy victories, as the terrorist groups believe, it is about conserving resources. This is why North Korea is a fly on the wall and China is a 800lb gorilla.
06-25-2007, 01:22 PM
06-25-2007, 02:11 PM
06-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Why exactly do you think the Iraq war is doing anything to stop terrorism? It isn't! It's increasing it. If we were to withdraw our troops we would be LESS likely to be hit by terrorists. Why are our troops anywhere in the world other than the USA?! WTF is the point?!
The CIA at elast recognizes that having troop presence in a foreign nation increases the hostility of that nation's people against us. You folks seem to disregard that though.
I see a whole lot of "the boogeyman hates us" but not a whole lot of why. I'll tell you why, because we've messed with their **** and we continue to mess with their ****. Well we need to stop messing with their ****.
We'll still be targetted by terrorists for past aggressions but we won't be giving them new excuses. They'll focus on more important fish like people who STILL are messing with them. We need to get the hell out of there and just let them kill each other ffs already.
We've had terrorists target this country for over half a century. Nothing is different. Oh and it all started cus we messed with their ****. If I'm not mistaken we supported the British in putting the Shah of Iran in power. That guy was a real winner.
But I guess you guys would rather go with the tried and true method of conitnuing to poke the hornets nest with a stick.
Oh and "war on terror?" What a bull**** phrase. Yeah let's declare war on a concept. Might as well declare war on fear. We will not stop until fear has ended. Oo or how about declaring war on theft! We will not stop until there are no more thieves! Oh that'll work.
06-25-2007, 03:10 PM
06-25-2007, 03:11 PM
We (theUS) have troops all over the world, we have had countless troops in Europe/Asia since the end of ww2 and Korean conflict. We currently are undergoing a buildup of forces in Africa, specifically Spec Ops forces aimed at deterring AlQaeda from gaining more of a foothold there. Is this the wrong thing to do?
If our military was stationed just in the US, what would they do? Would they deter Americans from attacking ourselves? That doesn't make much sense to me, which is why we base our troops around the world strategically. Maybe in 1800 isolationism was the right policy, not now.
06-25-2007, 03:21 PM
The Shah of Iran may have been a dictator, but he was far and away a better leader for Iran than the Ayatollah Khomeini, who is not only the dictator but also the god-figure for Iran. Iran may look like a parliamentary republic, but no decisions can be made without the Ayatollah's consent, and his Revolutionary Guard is the elite fighting unit of Iran. Ask any of the younger woman in Iran if their life is better than their mothers,and all will tell you no. In the Iran of the 70's, it was very close to a Western lifestyle, students of both sexes attended western schools and brought their knowledge back to Iran. Now they live in fear, dissidents are routinely jailed, and women endure the lack of rights provided by Islamic law.
Iran is really no different than Afghanistan was under the Taliban, except they have oil to fall back on, the Taliban had only drug money and Alqaeda funding them. Oh wait, I guess it might have been wrong to go into Afghanistan too, our troops should have stayed home.
06-25-2007, 04:53 PM
The only thing different about 911 was the death toll and the economic impact were larger.
It wasn't an act of war committed by a foreign country. No one is trying to invade us. No one is trying to conquer us. the objective was not to eliminate us or to conquer us or to invade us. The objective was to cause fear. It worked. They scared you and so many others so bad, now you think there's a boogeyman out there named Al Qaeda who at any moment will jump you in your sleep. You're so afraid you've allowed the US government to piss on your rights. You're so afraid you let them declare a war on some random country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 anyway. You're so afraid, all the US government has to do to get your approval for anything is say the words "war on terror" and you give them blanket approval to do anything they want.
You want to stop being terrorized? Stop being so terrified of terrorist attacks. Just brush them off and go about your business. Let the government find out the people involved, arrest them, put them on trial, and convict them. The way they always have in the past. The way it has always worked.
06-25-2007, 05:37 PM
06-25-2007, 06:15 PM
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Its very obvious where your cares lie. Money. You bring it up in every post.The only thing different about 911 was the death toll and the economic impact were larger.
It wasn't an act of war committed by a foreign country. No one is trying to invade us. No one is trying to conquer us. the objective was not to eliminate us or to conquer us or to invade us. The objective was to cause fear. It worked.
Actually it was to disrupt our economy. They've said this many times.
Not scared, pissed off. But its funny how you think you know what everyone else feels...or should feel. You've done this on many occasions only to be proven severely ignorant.They scared you and so many others so bad, now you think there's a boogeyman out there named Al Qaeda who at any moment will jump you in your sleep.
Haven't pissed on my rights. Sorry to hear you are so paranoid.You're so afraid you've allowed the US government to piss on your rights.
911 had nothing to do with my viewpoint at all but thanks for telling us what we all thoughtYou're so afraid you let them declare a war on some random country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 anyway.
Nice assumption once again. My suggestion, stay off the Kool Aid and stop telling everyone what they thought or what they should think. You won't sound as ridiculous....You're so afraid, all the US government has to do to get your approval for anything is say the words "war on terror" and you give them blanket approval to do anything they want.
They do, but they are infringing on your "rights". I guess with you, its a no win situation.You want to stop being terrorized? Stop being so terrified of terrorist attacks. Just brush them off and go about your business. Let the government find out the people involved, arrest them, put them on trial, and convict them.
ABC News: Feds Foil JFK Plot; 4th Suspect Sought
JFK plot foiled. The "boogeyman" was striking again.....but it was fake..we should just go about our business and not worry.
Right. The got 2 chances at the WTC.....finally brought them down. USS Cole, US embassies, Marine Barracks bombing, etc, etc, etc....the list goes on. Lets just sit back and wait for another one because goddamnit my rights are being infringed upon!!!The way they always have in the past. The way it has always worked.
Gimme a break....
Another war *****ing thread closed. Deal with it.
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