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    "Jeff Gannon," The Right's answer to the liberal media


    When I was listening to the Presidential press conference the other day one reporter's question stood out like a sore thumb:
    "Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

    This is the work of "Jeff Gannon," a reporter for Talon News Service and a regular at Bush administration press briefngs.

    Except his name isn't Jeff Gannon, it's James D. Guckert. Talon News is indistinguishable in ownership from "gopusa.com." They got White house Credentials 4 days after "Talon News" was founded. Pretty good for beginners, eh?

    Letsee, so he's a Republican operative. What else?

    He had access to a secret CIA memo about Valerie Plame just in time to say that he knew she was an operative so it must have been common knowledge.

    He espouses strong Christian values, but oddle, he owns the following domain names:
    jeffgannon.com
    Hotmilitarystud.com
    Militaryescorts.com
    Militaryescortsm4m.com

    Guckert's old AOL profile is a real hoot too, consistent with some of those domain names. ftp://members.aol.com/jdg17/myhomepage/index.html

    Did I mention that he's a tax cheat?
    http://billmon.org/archives/guckert.html

    OK, now all you neocons out there can go bone up on your talking points and come back and bury me, but I promise you this- JD Guckart will never darken the doors of the White House Press office again. He has thrown inthe towel and left the internet. Talon News has removed all articles he ever wrote.

    If you really want to know what happened, go to dailykos.com or one of the leftie sites that covered it over the past few days before you see what the freepers are saying.

    This administration specializes in sleazy deals that blow up in their face . Blind-sided again. This is the best one sice Ahmad Chalabi turned out to be an Iranian agent. Or Abu Gharab. Or WMD. the Saddam-AlQeda ties. Or the insurgency. Or 911. What they are good at is spinning their way out of it. The best in the history of the world at that. Must be the liberal media.

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    Ah...I'm not even going to respond, this stuff get's so old. I have to hear my freaking teachers preach all damn day about this ****. No matter what you whine about, Bush and the Republicrats are in office for the next four years. So please, please, please, if you've got something political to discuss make it something that isn't totally unimportant and lame. It's no longer an election year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    Ah...I'm not even going to respond, this stuff get's so old. I have to hear my freaking teachers preach all damn day about this ****. No matter what you whine about, Bush and the Republicrats are in office for the next four years. So please, please, please, if you've got something political to discuss make it something that isn't totally unimportant and lame. It's no longer an election year...
    You don't respond becuase you can't. This has the makings of a major scandal. Remember, Nixon won by a landslide and resigned 2 years later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    If you really want to know what happened, go to dailykos.com or one of the leftie sites that covered it over the past few days before you see what the freepers are saying.
    whats the problem with freepers? just bc they are correct and put you to shame most of the time?
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    so your saying throwing a softball question at a press corp is worse than dan rather using fake docs to try and throw a presidential election? i just fail to see what this has to do with the president personally.
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    i just read what he asked again and see nothing wrong with the question. can you point out what is wrong. try listening to helen thomas....
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    I'M WOUNDED! AgggggggghhH!

    Har. You can't handle the issues and the serious-as-a-heart-attack implications about the whole issue of corruption of the entire system- the rot that runs right to the core. So what do you do? pick a trivial issue and attack me personally.

    I understand. What choice do you have? God forbid you let reality break through the bubble.

    Didn't actually read dailykos, did you? This is a good summary: http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/9/191334/0754

    Oh, that's right- Inorance is Strength. Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldylight
    i just read what he asked again and see nothing wrong with the question. can you point out what is wrong. try listening to helen thomas....
    The constitutional role of the press is not in it's role as cheerleader of the government. It's a check and balance. It's job is to keep the corruption down among our leaders, whover they be. That being said, a reporter gets to ask any question he or she wants. However, again- this was never a legitimate news site and acted as political operatives. Further , Gannon could NEVER have passed a background check to get a permanent press pass, so he was given a temp pass every day for 2 years. No one else had that done. He was a plant and that's not what real free societies do. It's corrupt, unethical and manipulative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldylight
    so your saying throwing a softball question at a press corp is worse than dan rather using fake docs to try and throw a presidential election? i just fail to see what this has to do with the president personally.
    You know the isue is far, far bigger than a softball question. Rather paid for his mistake. Who is going to take rsponsibility for unqualified political plants in the White House Press Corps pretending legitimacy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    You don't respond becuase you can't. This has the makings of a major scandal. Remember, Nixon won by a landslide and resigned 2 years later.
    No, I didn't answer because it was stupid. Why do you think this thread didn't get a trillion responses from a bunch of different politically involved members?

    It's just another LAME attempt to undermine the administration. Really, this is the last issue on my mind. I'm more worried about the fact they won't do **** about our border with mexico and that my taxes are ridiculous and that in LA half of the citizens are functionally illiterate and 30% of our prison system is composed of illegal immigrants and I could go on FOREVER about REAL ISSUES.

    Reapeat these words and we'll forgive you: "From this day forth I solemnly swear to focus my reckless energy into something productice that will further the betterment of society. And, under penalty of "tar and feathering" I proclaim that I will not waste my time or the time of others talking about stupid crap when there are real issues that need to be taken care of in my country."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    No, I didn't answer because it was stupid. Why do you think this thread didn't get a trillion responses from a bunch of different politically involved members?

    It's just another LAME attempt to undermine the administration. Really, this is the last issue on my mind. I'm more worried about the fact they won't do **** about our border with mexico and that my taxes are ridiculous and that in LA half of the citizens are functionally illiterate and 30% of our prison system is composed of illegal immigrants and I could go on FOREVER about REAL ISSUES.

    Reapeat these words and we'll forgive you: "From this day forth I solemnly swear to focus my reckless energy into something productice that will further the betterment of society. And, under penalty of "tar and feathering" I proclaim that I will not waste my time or the time of others talking about stupid crap when there are real issues that need to be taken care of in my country."

    So now I have to take an oath? They make people take oaths in Fasist countries. This is America.

    And yes, yes, you have no use for this thread. Well stop posting on it then. God forbid you should actually address the issues, so discuss the dismantling of our consititutional system by the administration or just go away then. Personal attacks just make you look bad. Further, I don't see many posts on the political board at all. I've generated as much activity as anybody.
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    LOL. Calling me a facist b/c I made a proposition involving an oath in jest? LOL.

    You see, you don't understand. This is not a huge issue. The mere fact that you can take the time to turn something such as this into an issue just shows you for a person with a dislike for the administration and nothing more. We have major issues in this country, this is not one of them. It's not even interesting. We've got much more to be concerned about than a Bush-friendly reporter who got his credentials suspiciously fast. LOL. Get real, bud.
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    Oh, and this place definately can become active. Some of the threads in here were LONG! But, the election is over and nothing super exciting has happened outside of the elections in Iraq...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    LOL. Calling me a facist b/c I made a proposition involving an oath in jest? LOL.

    You see, you don't understand. This is not a huge issue. The mere fact that you can take the time to turn something such as this into an issue just shows you for a person with a dislike for the administration and nothing more. We have major issues in this country, this is not one of them. It's not even interesting. We've got much more to be concerned about than a Bush-friendly reporter who got his credentials suspiciously fast. LOL. Get real, bud.
    You certainally are spending a lot of effort to prove your point that there isn't anything here to spend effort on. Or, as Shakespeare put it, The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    Remember, if you hum really loud, you can drown out what I'm saying. Don't worry, I'll be there in your restless dreams, Sonny. Besides, you have to ace organic and biochem if you want to get into Medical School. You shouldn't waste so much time on this waste of time, right? You're spending far too much time on anabolic minds. Either you're not studying or you're not getting laid. Let me guess which.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    You certainally are spending a lot of effort to prove your point that there isn't anything here to spend effort on. Or, as Shakespeare put it, The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    Remember, if you hum really loud, you can drown out what I'm saying. Don't worry, I'll be there in your restless dreams, Sonny. Besides, you have to ace organic and biochem if you want to get into Medical School. You shouldn't waste so much time on this waste of time, right? You're spending far too much time on anabolic minds. Either you're not studying or you're not getting laid. Let me guess which.
    Good memory I was under the impression you were senile.

    The point is simple, I'm not trying to prove it b/c IMHO it's an empirical truth. "There are much bigger issues at hand than the subject of the first post in this thread." This thread was nothing other than a deep dig in the ass for something to further your spiteful agenda. There was no interesting subject matter at all. So a guy who was a Bush lover got special treatment. Well "by golly" that's gotta be a first, right?

    I just find it amazing that you think I'm trying to block out what you're saying. What truths am I missing? I'm not blocking anything out; you're just not presenting anything remotely convincing to your point (which is Bush is the devil and the world is coming to an end, right?). You would have made a horrible lawyer because you sure as hell can't present a case. <-- And that is much more interesting than the thread topic. That is worth coming back for
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    The problem with this sort of thread is that there is no discussion. It is simply 2 sides throwing jabs at each other and it accomplishes nothing. The "Gannon" character is/was a conservative journalist that was being manipulative. However, the vast majoirty of media is liberal/left behaves in the same manner from the opposite side. The differences in my opinion are minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    You certainally are spending a lot of effort to prove your point that there isn't anything here to spend effort on. Or, as Shakespeare put it, The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
    Actually it takes time to explain even the simplest of concepts to children with special needs... so he has to go slow and repeat himself when you don't quite 'get it'.

    Keep trying though, you'll find that you're just a hater... plenty of the same **** you've been tossing can be tossed over at J Kerry and the DNC for the same things.

    As for being a fascist country... did you vote? Last I checked Hitler didnt get voted into office. And that whole Holocaust thing didnt really happen did it?
    People that yell 'fascist' might want to take a look at how far they've gone to the left; the normal populace is right where it has been for years, but since the bleeding hearts KNOW that they are right and that their views NEVER change; that its gotta be just the fascists

    I'm a fascist because I voted for Bush! Yet I support Gay civil unions (not marriage), certain kinds of abortion(no freebies), very mild weaponcontrol(no automatic weapons easily accessible). I support a lot of person freedom but with assistance available from the government if I needed it. Technically I'm a moderate democrat, but then again, there aren't many of those left in the DNC.
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    Interesting. I never called you a facist any more than you told me to take a pledge. It's all just a funny joke, right? Serously, some jokes tell truths about the teller ("Kidding on the Square"). But that isn't one of those, is it?

    I also believe that if Clinton had given a homosexual tax cheat who had set up a news organizaton with only a mail drop as an office address a white house pass to espouse his policies and act as a foil for real reporters asking real questions, somehow the Freepers would be foaming at the mouth about the Constitutional principles that have been corrupted and they would be calling for blood. In that respect, Bean (from Egypt, Maine, per chance?) I agree with you.

    This isn't about Gannon. He can write anything he wants. It's about the Administration covertly controlling the press, which they did here and when they paid commentators to espouse their policies (with taxpayer money) on the sly. When that happens, the Press isn't free and Bush has seriously broken his oath of office to support and defend the Constitution.

    As for Hitler not being voted into power, the Nazis became the largest party in the 1932 elections and remained so when new elections were held the same year. Hitler was constitutionally appointed Chancellor of a coalition government. The Nazis got an all out majority of seats in the 1933 elections after merging with another party. After that, The Reichstag actually passed an act that handed all their power to him! Look it up in Wikipedia. He was elected into power; He then had the military swear an oath to him personally (as opposed to the government).

    Even old-style conservative and libertarian press is starting to use the "Fascist" word
    http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_14/article.html

    And, here's a site that discusses the cardinal features of facism (I think Kwyck used these or similar in the past- I prefer the succincness of Mussolini's definition: Corporatism) and gives examples of this administration's behaviors that illustrate them. Yes, it's clearly biased Left, but I'd be happy to spar over particular points on it. I won't even reply to generalities. (In English: if you cry, "But the Dems did it," you might want to provide examples)

    http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm



    ANd there a really funny joke on that site. Here it is:





    Isn't that a scream?
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    The Democrats are way further left - than the Republicans are right.

    no science study or PubMed essay needed for that.

    The comparision of Bush:Hitler only panders to the wack-job liberals of today. Mainstream America knows it is a Soros funded exadgeration - and many find it offensive.

    The fact of the matter is, the far left hates Bush more than Bin Laden - they hate American Soldiers at Abu Graib more than terrorists who behead civilians. When America Soldiers die they smile because in their mind - it makes Bush 'look bad'.

    This is the wrapped illogical 'liberal enlightenment' that no one likes.

    And That type of thinking isn't going to win an election anytime soon.

    I think it's funny (ironic) that countries like France equate the Bush Administration to the Third Reich. If it wasn't for the United States... wait, nevermind - you get the point.
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    And Howard Dean as Head of the DNC, basically ends the democrats hopes in 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    The Democrats are way further left - than the Republicans are right.

    no science study or PubMed essay needed for that.

    The comparision of Bush:Hitler only panders to the wack-job liberals of today. Mainstream America knows it is a Soros funded exadgeration - and many find it offensive.

    The fact of the matter is, the far left hates Bush more than Bin Laden - they hate American Soldiers at Abu Graib more than terrorists who behead civilians. When America Soldiers die they smile because in their mind - it makes Bush 'look bad'.

    This is the wrapped illogical 'liberal enlightenment' that no one likes.

    And That type of thinking isn't going to win an election anytime soon.

    I think it's funny (ironic) that countries like France equate the Bush Administration to the Third Reich. If it wasn't for the United States... wait, nevermind - you get the point.
    My god, you said something specific. That HAD to hurt.

    As I recall, Conservatives center of mass in the 30's and early 40's were fiercely isolationist (militarally, not economically), and some conservative folks with presidential ambitions like Chas. Lindbergh were downright Nazi sympathizers before the war.

    As I recall, the party that got us into the war and that got the Nazis out of France were the Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    As I recall, the party that got us into the war and that got the Nazis out of France were the Dems.
    Right, you're comparing the 1940 Democrats to the 2004 Democrats anti-war pussies of today.
    Great Comparison.

    Thanks Howard Dean, Mrs. Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore for stopping Hitler.
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    This brilliant symbol of liberal enlightment, compassion, and tolerance - looks a lot like your avatar.
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    I just don't see any valid argument For the democratic party at this point. They make no solid stand on any issue, but would rather put all of their efforts into pointing out the failings of the republicans. Way to friggin contribute! Fine, oppose the other party, but at least come up with SOME way to do things differently and/or better. And pointing out that planted "reporter" is like pointing out a sinner in hell. Few if any journalists do anything without an agenda anymore.

    My personal belief is that there is a definite need for change in our government in many areas. I just don't see it coming from either party unfortunately.
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    He asked a fair and valid question. Al Gore was talking about social security a lot during his campaign. How Many times did he say he would put social security in a lock box? I can recall several democrats saying there is a crisis with SS. Now that a republican is in office there is no problem? That shows that the dems are being hypocritical and it also shows some major media bias that the press won't ask that question.
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    As I recall, Conservatives center of mass in the 30's and early 40's were fiercely isolationist (militarally, not economically), and some conservative folks with presidential ambitions like Chas. Lindbergh were downright Nazi sympathizers before the war.
    George Washington , Jefferson, and Madison would all be classified as isolationist today. If you recall Washington warned against getting involved in foreign entanglements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    Right, you're comparing the 1940 Democrats to the 2004 Democrats anti-war pussies of today.
    Great Comparison.

    Thanks Howard Dean, Mrs. Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore for stopping Hitler.
    And if I may...please allow me to add to this. I, to this day, do not think that the world did the right thing about hitler and only acted out of desparation!

    The european pussies appeased hitler until it was too late for their own countries. They made stupid freaking decisions. Russia tried to appease hitler and Hitler invaded them due to his hatred for communism. France, et al. tried to appease hitler and look what happened to them? Europe sat back and watched Hitler become very powerful and watched him overthrow many countries until they had no choice other than to act in order to secure their survival!

    America sat back thinking "We're 4,000 miles away, what's there to worry about?" until they were attacked at pearl harbor and by then Hitler practically owned all of Europe and parts of Asia. How stupid is that?

    Our "leadership" of that time DOES NOT IMPRESS ME IN THE LEAST! What bothers me more is that the leadership of the world today seems to still abide by that pro-appeasement BS that got them into trouble countless times before.

    And, again, I'd like to emphasize Deoudes' point that there is NO comparison between the Dems of 2004 and the Dems of 1940. And, if I recall the Dems have a ****ty history. Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Korean War, and then sitting on their ass during the Cold War. Well "by golly" how ever did the reupublicrats get the label of "War Mongers"? If you ask me, the Dems are responsible for hideous loss of life.

    Now let me clear this up. I don't like the republicans...but, since the only other party with a shot is the democrats, I don't have much fo a choice in federal elections. Locally, I can help appoint libertarians, but that's it. And when it comes to the Democrats of the second half of the 20th century, they are scum and have become progressively worse over the years. What have they done? Don't give me any of this "civil rights" BS. There was a reason Malcolm X was not a big fan of the democrats...

    "Malcolm X: The Democratic Party is responsible for the racism that exists in this country, along with the Republican Party. The leading racists in this country are Democrats. Goldwater isn’t the leading racist—he’s a racist but not the leading racist.2 The racists who have influence in Washington, D.C., are Democrats. If you check, whenever any kind of legislation is suggested to mitigate the injustices that Negroes suffer in this country, you will find that the people who line up against it are members of Lyndon B. Johnson’s party. The Dixiecrats are Democrats. The Dixiecrats are only a subdivision of the Democratic Party, and the same man over the Democrats is over the Dixiecrats....3"

    They currently are and have been for 50+ years nothing but blood sucking scum. I'd love to know anything good that the dems you so adamently defend, INFO_HAZARD, have done...what have they done? Yes, I know, the republicans suck, too....but they can't compare to the democrats.

    NOTE: The Dixiecrats were the openly segregationist and racist wing of the Democratic Party dominant at the time in most of the U.S. South.

    Again, i'll ask that if you post something political, please make it worth our read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    And, again, I'd like to emphasize Deoudes' point that there is NO comparison between the Dems of 2004 and the Dems of 1940... And when it comes to the Democrats of the second half of the 20th century, they are scum and have become progressively worse over the years...
    Hell, would you believe that at the end of the 1800s the Dems were the hard money, anti inflationist types? I found it sad as well, when I realized how many people think Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat. Much as I hate Lincoln he probably did speed the end of slavery here, so something good came out of his presidency.

    Most people don't have enough brain power to grasp their own party's ideology, much less their own party's hypocrisies and contradictions. You can't expect them to realize the dramatic shifts in the ideological nature of the two dominant parties that can occur over the short and long term. However impressive or unimpressive anyone finds the Democrats or Republicans of yesteryear, they are essentially irrelevant except as pieces of history that help explain our current situation.
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    both the big parties suck period, dems advocate for parasites, repubs advocate for predators... the normal farm animals like us in the middle get ****ed either way.
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    But parties have realigned many times. Old stereotypes don't apply across the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    Hell, would you believe that at the end of the 1800s the Dems were the hard money, anti inflationist types?....
    Yeah, I definately understand this. The dems and repubs have essentially swapped rolls in the late 19th century or so. I do believe, however, that since the 50's the dems have been "relatively" similar. They've just become more radical over the years. The repubs have radicalized as well. But the dems are worse....IMHO.
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    exactly
    The republicans have become Neo-Cons.
    The democrats have become socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    I just don't see any valid argument For the democratic party at this point. They make no solid stand on any issue, but would rather put all of their efforts into pointing out the failings of the republicans. Way to friggin contribute! Fine, oppose the other party, but at least come up with SOME way to do things differently and/or better. And pointing out that planted "reporter" is like pointing out a sinner in hell. Few if any journalists do anything without an agenda anymore.

    My personal belief is that there is a definite need for change in our government in many areas. I just don't see it coming from either party unfortunately.
    The Republicans have had their periods of drifting and scandal in past. After 70 years of dominance, the dems now are having a period in which, with 48% of the vote they are being drowned out by other voices. Well, that's life. They will change to meet the challenge just as the Rebublicans have.

    I'm not exactly sure what you mean for "no valid argument for the Democratic Party..." That sounds perolusly close to Ann Coulter's statement that the Dems should "Just disappear."

    Are you proposing a one party rule? RUle only by the right? I want you to think back to a few examples from the 20th Century in which one half of the political spectrum "just went away."

    There's the Russian Revolution, The Facists in Europe, The Chinese Communist Revolution, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein... I'm sure there are others.

    Can you think of a single example of a one party state that had a genuinely healthy ecomomy? "Communst" China may be the only one, and it's far from Communist.

    Name one hard Right regime that brought prosperity to their people. Just because you don't agree with the Dems doesn't mean the other 48% are idiots or are mentally ill (two standard de-humanizing terms constantly used by rhetoricians trying to gain advantage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    LOL. Calling me a facist b/c I made a proposition involving an oath in jest? LOL.

    You see, you don't understand. This is not a huge issue. The mere fact that you can take the time to turn something such as this into an issue just shows you for a person with a dislike for the administration and nothing more. We have major issues in this country, this is not one of them. It's not even interesting. We've got much more to be concerned about than a Bush-friendly reporter who got his credentials suspiciously fast. LOL. Get real, bud.
    Just don't pretend that you respect the constitution, then. You put party well above principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    Right, you're comparing the 1940 Democrats to the 2004 Democrats anti-war pussies of today.
    Great Comparison.

    Thanks Howard Dean, Mrs. Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore for stopping Hitler.
    Whisky Tango Foxtrot are you yammering on about? Go look at the freeper archives, and even the Congressional Record of Republican pronouncemets of the time Clinton Bombed Iraq, bombed Osama Bin Laden and got us into the Balkins (which is now peaceful, thanks to that action). They couldn't stop screaming "Wag the Dog," and spewing the party line that he was just trying to take the heat off the Lewinsky Scandal. Gosh, maybe he actually was trying to protect our country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    This brilliant symbol of liberal enlightment, compassion, and tolerance - looks a lot like your avatar.
    Spud Beer- for those who can't tell the difference!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla
    He asked a fair and valid question. Al Gore was talking about social security a lot during his campaign. How Many times did he say he would put social security in a lock box? I can recall several democrats saying there is a crisis with SS. Now that a republican is in office there is no problem? That shows that the dems are being hypocritical and it also shows some major media bias that the press won't ask that question.
    Of course there's a problem with Social Securty. The problem is like a rabbit that's been swallowed by a snake. The snake is the economy and the rabbit is the baby-boom generation- born 1946 to 1963. I was born in 1961. In 2040, I will be 7 years old, which is approximately my expected lifespan give or take. After 1963, the birth rate dropped. The next baby boom was in the later 70's (Gen X).

    Basically there are a couple of years that would not be accounted for under the current system. Hardly insurmountable.

    The Lock-box that Gore kept talking about was to prevent Congress from raiding the trust fund, not that the system was intrinsically unsound. I'm all for not raiding the trust fund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    Just because you don't agree with the Dems doesn't mean the other 48% are idiots or are mentally ill
    Do you read what you write? You preach to the guys who disagree with you as if they can hardly read yet you make this statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
    Just don't pretend that you respect the constitution, then. You put party well above principle.
    My god you're a moron.

    Telling me I put party above principle when all you do is try to shovel the democratic party BS down our throats all day is rather ridiculous. Nobody defended the administration for their actions in this miniscule matter you've blown out of proportion. We've just said that it's an insignificant topic considering the array of highly important subject matter you can discuss as a result of the current state of our world. However, I guess if you can't take a cheap shot you have no chance, right? So, you have to stick to stupid insignificant articles so that you can take a jab at anybody who chose Bush over Kerry in an attempt justify your beliefs that we have to be morons to do such a thing.

    Can you say desperate?

    And where the the comment regarding respect for the constitution come from? If you read my quote I made no mention of it...You don't even go off on tangents...if your argument were a mathematical function there would be no limits, and would be composed of an infinite number of branches that are each infinitely small and the are each noncontinuous of the others. Basically, it'd look like a scatterplot of infinite proportions. Please, reread this whole thread and all of your threads...that'll prove me correct without a doubt. You cannot stay on topic and you cannot define any of your points.
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