New Republican Idea: Punishing Rape Victims with Jail Time
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01-29-2013 10:24 PM
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New Republican Idea: Punishing Rape Victims with Jail Time
This bitch!
If you’re looking for evidence that the differences between men and women are greatly exaggerated, the fact that women are equally capable as men of mind-blowing misogyny should erase all doubt.New Mexico state Rep. Cathrynn Brown proved that this week by introducing a bill aimed at throwing rape victims in jail if they refuse to honor their rapist’s right to control their body by carrying his child. This sort of insult to rapists will not stand, so Brown, standing up bravely for rapists who want the suffering they’ve inflicted to carry on and on for their victims, has proposed banning abortion for rape victims on the phony grounds that it’s “tampering with evidence”.
Of course, the entire idea that having a rapist’s baby would somehow be treated as proof of a rape is beyond silly. After all, the defense against the charge of rape is rarely to claim that the penis didn’t go into the vagina, but to accuse the victim of consenting and then, due to the unique viciousness of women, claiming it was rape for the lulz. Or to conceal her epic sluttiness by having the police grill her about her sex life, the defense attorney question her about it for the public record, and the entire community gossip about what a big slut she must be to press rape charges. I suspect Brown knows this, coming from the same anti-choice circles as Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin, where the belief is that women are deceitful creatures who will lie and kill to conceal how much fun sex they’re having.
To understand what’s going on here, you have to understand that anti-choicers primarily understand abortion as an attempt by women to hide how naughty they are. Never mind that most women getting abortions are in their 20s and are mothers already; the myth that abortion patients are young girls having all this sexy fun they’re not supposed to have and then hiding the “evidence” with abortion is so erotic and enticing for anti-choicers that they’re not letting it go. That’s why hanging out in front of abortion clinics and yelling at patients is so crucial to the movement: They believe you’re trying to hide your shameful non-virgin status, and by gum, they’re going to be there to make sure they get a chance to see your face and cast judgment. You will notget to hide your non-virginity from them! They are entitled to pass judgment, and if they don’t get to do it by shaming you for being a single mother, they’ll show up and yell at you at the abortion clinic. And probably masturbate about it later. You laugh, but when you see behavior like this enough, you begin to realize that this anti-choice obsession with abortion is so profound that “sexual fetish, no matter how sublimated” is the likeliest explanation.
The narratives of sexual transgression and concealment that dictate how anti-choicers view abortion make this bill all the easier to understand. The possibility that women have abortions to reduce suffering in their lives, prevent economic catastrophe, or regain control over their lives are dismissed in favor of believing that an abortion means someone is hiding a sexy secret. It reduces rape to a “sexy secret” and, of course, reinforces the narrative that women are to blame for their rapes, because they are being so dirty and naughty and rowr that men have no choice but to put them in their place with some raping. (Implicit anti-choice narratives and really foul porn plots have a lot in common, which doesn’t strike me as a coincidence.) That’s why you get terms like “legitimate rape”. That’s why, I suspect, Republicans killed the Violence Against Women Act. The narrative that women bring violence on themselves by breaking the lady mandate to be quiet, chaste, and submissive seems to be gaining strength on the right, not that it ever really went away. Being raped is apparently a crime in and of itself, and if you won’t be punished by forced childbirth for being so rapeable, then jail time for you, in the eyes of Rep. Brown.
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01-30-2013 10:19 AM
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So is this intended to be a discussion of rape, abortion, women's rights or are you suggesting one woman stands for roughly half of the USA and will be bashing right leaning voters in general?
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01-30-2013 10:23 AM
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Strong post.
Are you just a kook lefty trying to point out a kook righty?
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01-30-2013 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by
TexasGuy
So is this intended to be a discussion of rape, abortion, women's rights or are you suggesting one woman stands for roughly half of the USA and will be bashing right leaning voters in general?
Clearly this individual is still in a position of power, a state representative so yes she is representing a certain demographic and population. The fact that she thinks this should be legislature is absolutely ridiculous. First step, is awareness.
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01-30-2013 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
Russianog
Clearly this individual is still in a position of power, a state representative so yes she is representing a certain demographic and population. The fact that she thinks this should be legislature is absolutely ridiculous. First step, is awareness.
Are you seriously suggesting that every voter agrees with every single initiative an elected official presents?
And yeah, she is ridiculous and should be replaced. By another conservative who doesn't hold such an extreme view.
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01-30-2013 11:49 AM
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No link to actual said legislation = sensationalism.
In many ways I'm not conservative, but instigatory journalism is still propaganda.
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01-30-2013 11:51 AM
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Re: New Republican Idea: Punishing Rape Victims with Jail Time
Originally Posted by
Resolve
No link to actual said legislation = sensationalism.
In many ways I'm not conservative, but instigatory journalism is still propaganda.
Taking a wild guess but its prolly from infowars.com
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01-30-2013 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
Russianog
Clearly this individual is still in a position of power, a state representative so yes she is representing a certain demographic and population. The fact that she thinks this should be legislature is absolutely ridiculous. First step, is awareness.
Great response. Although, this bill isn't going anywhere. It would first need to be sponsored and then worked on in committee, which isn't going to happen. Years back a bill was introduced that would extend presidential terms past the current limit of 2 terms, it's been sitting on the shelf for over 10 years.
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01-30-2013 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
JudoJosh
Taking a wild guess but its prolly from infowars.com
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01-30-2013 12:06 PM
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She recently introduced that bill, story is legit.
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01-30-2013 12:10 PM
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By the way, how come no one ever responds with "strong post," whenever AX posts something that a plumber wrote in his grandmother's basement?
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01-30-2013 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
southpaw23
By the way, how come no one ever responds with "strong post," whenever AX posts something that a plumber wrote in his grandmother's basement?
I do
but when I don't it's usually because I'm in my bunker, making new tinfoil hats.
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01-30-2013 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
carpee
I do

Well that's for obvious reasons, I was being ironical. Lol.
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01-30-2013 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
southpaw23
Great response. Although, this bill isn't going anywhere. It would first need to be sponsored and then worked on in committee, which isn't going to happen. Years back a bill was introduced that would extend presidential terms past the current limit of 2 terms, it's been sitting on the shelf for over 10 years.
So you are also suggesting that what one woman says is blankets every single "conservative"? That we should judge all conservative politicians and voters by this one woman's view?
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01-30-2013 12:15 PM
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I didn't have enough of a post count to post links...
Regardless of the website, which doesn't matter... Brown is sponsoring it. However short the lifespan of this bill, i just personally would like to see her step down, possibly silenced for good. The less talking this women does, the better of the rest of the population is. America is ****ed as it is currently. I'm sure ill probably encounter less frustration and problems as soon as i'm done with usmc... modern day slavery.
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01-30-2013 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
TexasGuy
So you are also suggesting that what one woman says is blankets every single "conservative"? That we should judge all conservative politicians and voters by this one woman's view?
No.... :/
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01-30-2013 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
Russianog
I didn't have enough of a post count to post links...
Regardless of the website, which doesn't matter... Brown is sponsoring it. However short the lifespan of this bill, i just personally would like to see her step down, possibly silenced for good. The less talking this women does, the better of the rest of the population is. America is ****ed as it is currently. I'm sure ill probably encounter less frustration and problems as soon as i'm done with usmc... modern day slavery.
Ok good, so the title is misleading then. You are upset with this lady, not conservatives en masse. I mean I guess technically she is a republican and her ideal would then be a (one) republicans ideal, but surely you can understand how riduculous the implication of extrapolating one wacky ideal over millions of individuals is.
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01-30-2013 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
southpaw23
No.... :/
Cool, because for a second it sounded like you were in support of slanderous guilt by association.
The day we have a representative carrying a 100% support rating from her constituency with this particular view in her platform will be the day his reply is "solid". Until then this is one woman with an outlandish view, even as interpreted by the vast majority of republicans.
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01-30-2013 12:29 PM
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And, RussianOG, given your comment, is this actually a thread to bitch about the Marine Corp? That would've been a tough guess.
You did voluntarily sign up though, yes? And realized when you signed your contract that you can't just simply quit or switch jobs like in the civilian world?
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01-30-2013 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
TexasGuy
Cool, because for a second it sounded like you were in support of slanderous guilt by association.
The day we have a representative carrying a 100% support rating from her constituency with this particular view in her platform will be the day his reply is "solid". Until then this is one woman with an outlandish view, even as interpreted by the vast majority of republicans.
That's where you're wrong, I'm in support of slanderous guilt by way of disassociation. His response was solid and correct. Contextually, this woman has a certain measure of power via her constituency. Her thoughts are dangerous and extreme, with that said, this bill is dead on ar*****. No one is going to sponsor this bill.
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