Impeach Gov. Andrew Cuomo 4 violating New Yorker's 2nd Amendment

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I just disagree with the solution...I want convicted murders in prison for life, or labor camp.
    Agreed. Irrespective of that, he should NOT have been able to legally purchase firearms, especially on a murder conviction. WTF is so difficult to understand about that? He walked into a gun store and purchased weapons, a licensed gun store mind you. Did you read the letter he had written in his room? "The monster wants to come out." C'mon man, even reasonable people can agree that stricter controls needs to be in place that would prevent someone like this from purchasing weapons.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I just disagree with the solution...I want convicted murders in prison for life, or labor camp.
    **** prison or labor camps...hook there nuts to a car battery and dump an electrolyte dense liquid all over them....quick cheap and easy...or if your gonna do prison...buy a dessert island somewhere...blindfold em, fly there asses out, and drop them off and never look back...problem solved
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Agreed. Irrespective of that, he should NOT have been able to legally purchase firearms, especially on a murder conviction. WTF is so difficult to understand about that? He walked into a gun store and purchased weapons, a licensed gun store mind you. Did you read the letter he had written in his room? "The monster wants to come out." C'mon man, even reasonable people can agree that stricter controls needs to be in place that would prevent someone like this from purchasing weapons.
    and stricter control wont do anything....fixing a background check problem will...but like i said...the people who are cryin the loudest are doing the least to fix the problem, or at the very least taking the lazy way out
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    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    **** prison or labor camps...hook there nuts to a car battery and dump an electrolyte dense liquid all over them....quick cheap and easy...or if your gonna do prison...buy a dessert island somewhere...blindfold em, fly there asses out, and drop them off and never look back...problem solved

    Awesome guys, now that we're done feeding their nuts to Komodo dragons, let's stay on topic and discuss how a person like this was able to legally acquire firearms, including an AK.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Agreed. Irrespective of that, he should NOT have been able to legally purchase firearms, especially on a murder conviction. WTF is so difficult to understand about that? He walked into a gun store and purchased weapons, a licensed gun store mind you. Did you read the letter he had written in his room? "The monster wants to come out." C'mon man, even reasonable people can agree that stricter controls needs to be in place that would prevent someone like this from purchasing weapons.
    I dont disagree with you...but the whole scenario never should have happened because he should have been in prison. He never should of even had the opportunity any more to be put out in a free society.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Awesome guys, now that we're done feeding their nuts to Komodo dragons, let's stay on topic and discuss how a person like this was able to legally acquire firearms, including an AK.
    they were able to get the guns cause the current check system is flawed and it needs to be fixed....and at least we know what to do with them when they **** up
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    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I dont disagree with you...but the whole scenario never should have happened because he should have been in prison. He never should of even had the opportunity any more to be put out in a free society.
    That's another issue entirely. How was someone like this individual legally able to purchase firearms, and not come up as flagged in a system that gun proponents say is works, and that does not require additional restrictions.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Awesome guys, now that we're done feeding their nuts to Komodo dragons, let's stay on topic and discuss how a person like this was able to legally acquire firearms, including an AK.
    Why are you pointing out an AK? What makes that semi automatic rifle more devastating than a Semi Automatic 30-06?

    And let's not get the arguement twisted. Expanding Background checks only focuses on one target group, the law abiding.

    If ol boy wanted a gun, an arsenel, or a gernade launcher... does anyone believe he would have stopped the minute NICS came back with a big ol NO?

    And be aware, the background check system (NICS) is setup by the FBI.. the state has no hand in it.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    That's another issue entirely. How was someone like this individual legally able to purchase firearms, and not come up as flagged in a system that gun proponents say is works, and that does not require additional restrictions.
    Just another example how goverment cant do anything efficiently.

    Maybe the private sector (I dont know who runs the current if its private or not) can compete to get a contract to supply the appropriate technology/system.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Why are you pointing out an AK? What makes that semi automatic rifle more devastating than a Semi Automatic 30-06?

    And let's not get the arguement twisted. Expanding Background checks only focuses on one target group, the law abiding.

    If ol boy wanted a gun, an arsenel, or a gernade launcher... does anyone believe he would have stopped the minute NICS came back with a big ol NO?

    And be aware, the background check system (NICS) is setup by the FBI.. the state has no hand in it.
    and thats the problem...the FBI is incharge of it...they cant even get there own buget and payroll right how do you expect them to manage a database like that??

    and an AK is more devestating cause its russian...you obviously havent seen rocky
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Why are you pointing out an AK? What makes that semi automatic rifle more devastating than a Semi Automatic 30-06?

    And let's not get the arguement twisted. Expanding Background checks only focuses on one target group, the law abiding.

    If ol boy wanted a gun, an arsenel, or a gernade launcher... does anyone believe he would have stopped the minute NICS came back with a big ol NO?

    And be aware, the background check system (NICS) is setup by the FBI.. the state has no hand in it.
    Thats my concern....having Big Bro looking after us is going to effect the big majority law abiding the most.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Just another example how goverment cant do anything efficiently.

    Maybe the private sector (I dont know who runs the current if its private or not) can compete to get a contract to supply the appropriate technology/system.
    You support a right without knowing all of the details as to how it's being supported? Lol. Nice. Federal government has no involvement here, which should make you happy. It's state regulated, but here's the kicker, there is no uniformity as to how these laws are enforced or lack thereof, it falls upon the state in question. Now when there is a failure on the state level, maybe, just maybe it's time to....think you know where I'm going with this.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    You support a right without knowing all of the details as to how it's being supported? Lol. Nice. Federal government has no involvement here, which should make you happy. It's state regulated, but here's the kicker, there is no uniformity as to how these laws are enforced or lack thereof, it falls upon the state in question. Now when there is a failure on the state level, maybe, just maybe it's time to....think you know where I'm going with this.
    You cant find a solution to everything. Best find other solutions, criminals get their guns or alternative weapons, druggies get their drugs, prostitutes will prostitute.

    Best reduce restrictions especially concealed carries. Teach our kids how to use weapons responsibly and the art of self defense so they can grow maturely with these weapons. When one of these nut cases run into a movie theater to go on a shooting spree plenty of people will bust a cap in his brain real quick.

    Personal reliance is far more dependable than having government protect us.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Why are you pointing out an AK? What makes that semi automatic rifle more devastating than a Semi Automatic 30-06?

    And let's not get the arguement twisted. Expanding Background checks only focuses on one target group, the law abiding.

    If ol boy wanted a gun, an arsenel, or a gernade launcher... does anyone believe he would have stopped the minute NICS came back with a big ol NO?

    And be aware, the background check system (NICS) is setup by the FBI.. the state has no hand in it.
    Yes and that information is provided by the state, which in this case did not occur, hence the reason why this individual was not flagged. I could care less about arguing over what constitutes an assault weapon. The point is, he should not have been able to purchase multiple firearms had the state informed the FBI. There are procedures in place for this and they were not enforced in this case.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Yes and that information is provided by the state, which in this case did not occur, hence the reason why this individual was not flagged. I could care less about arguing over what constitutes an assault weapon. The point is, he should not have been able to purchase multiple firearms had the state informed the FBI. There are procedures in place for this and they were not enforced in this case.
    You kind of skimmed over the part before. So since that system failed, we are to expect expanding it will fix the issue? Sort of like how we are spending our way out of debt?

    As for the AK statement, I only ask that is because the term assault weapon is a made up term to demonize a very broad group of weapons. Since you mentioned that in a grimm tone, you seem to not be aware of the debate at hand (The "Assault" weapons ban). That is the very narrative that certain organizations/people with an agenda wish to perpetuate.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    what is a strong phychiatric drug?? are you talking about a specific class of drug or what??

    some people take paxil for premature ejaculation issues...should they be prevented from owning a gun?
    i take lexapro cause i have GAD...should that be flagged so i cant buy a gun?

    im just curious as to what drugs they were on becaus if it was the same drug cause if a certain drug is the common denominator then either the drug needs to be taken off the market cause its causing people to shoot people and other **** or they need to make sure the people that are on it are locked up so they cant do it
    These need to be more studied by a well funded independent science panel. I dont want to jump to conclusions (although I may sound as if I come across that way, Im not) as this may or may not be a contributing factor. The fact that in most cases of mass shooting there are prescription drugs involved it should be included in every dialogue. Media and government do not address these issues.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    You kind of skimmed over the part before. So since that system failed, we are to expect expanding it will fix the issue? Sort of like how we are spending our way out of debt?

    As for the AK statement, I only ask that is because the term assault weapon is a made up term to demonize a very broad group of weapons. Since you mentioned that in a grimm tone, you seem to not be aware of the debate at hand (The "Assault" weapons ban). That is the very narrative that certain organizations/people with an agenda wish to perpetuate.
    I referenced it as an AK, because that is how it was described in the article. I don't attempt to draw up my own narrative, despite the fact that I myself don't embrace the gun culture, I respect and support their rights to own/carry/purchase/possess. There was a failure at the state level to keep weapons out of this person's hands, that needs to be addressed.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I referenced it as an AK, because that is how it was described in the article. I don't attempt to draw up my own narrative, despite the fact that I myself don't embrace the gun culture, I respect and support their rights to own/carry/purchase/possess. There was a failure at the state level to keep weapons out of this person's hands, that needs to be addressed.
    More incentive to have criminals buy guns black market, or make their own assault weapon with a 3D printer, or learn to make home made bombs.

    How much money did we spend on the war on drugs and how far did that go along?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post

    **** prison or labor camps...hook there nuts to a car battery and dump an electrolyte dense liquid all over them....quick cheap and easy...or if your gonna do prison...buy a dessert island somewhere...blindfold em, fly there asses out, and drop them off and never look back...problem solved
    Like the British did to Australia? Lol

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Like the British did to Australia? Lol
    exactly!! problem is there were indegenous people there...and that was too big an island...im talkin like....maybe a 1/2 mile by 1/2 mile pile of sand in the pacific along the equator...tops!
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  21. when i say a dessert island, i mean like castaway island...i mean i want them tryin to crack coconuts with seashells trying to figure out how to make a spear to defend themselves from the komodo dragons that were placed there premptaviley for this very purpose
    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    More incentive to have criminals buy guns black market, or make their own assault weapon with a 3D printer, or learn to make home made bombs.

    How much money did we spend on the war on drugs and how far did that go along?
    Drugs are by nature self destructive, not an equitable comparison.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Drugs are by nature self destructive, not an equitable comparison.
    So are guns, ever hear of suicide?

    Thats not the point, the point is every time there is a problem people are willing to restrict their personal rights for exchange of protection, when in the end you end up with neither.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So are guns, ever hear of suicide?

    Thats not the point, the point is every time there is a problem people are willing to restrict their personal rights for exchange of protection, when in the end you end up with neither.
    Apples to oranges comparison.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    God given....who's god? :/
    Agreed? How is it god given? That is illogical...I guess there is no god in England

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Agreed? How is it god given? That is illogical...I guess there is no god in England
    little late to the game haas...and that was resolved a loong time ago...
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    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Agreed? How is it god given? That is illogical...I guess there is no god in England
    You dont understand...I have a dictionary from 1762 that I bought in my local antique store. At that time good was spelled god and the o was pronounced "o͝o" when followed by d, so it was really "good given" to us.
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  28. ax, get a new websters...really....lol
    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    You dont understand...I have a dictionary from 1762 that I bought in my local antique store. At that time good was spelled god and the o was pronounced "o?o" when followed by d, so it was really "good given" to us.
    Thanks for the clarification ax. I appreciate your time.

    Man.... Hey haas, sorry for evidently hijacking the thread.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification ax. I appreciate your time.

    Man.... Hey haas, sorry for evidently hijacking the thread.
    You can't hijack crazy.
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