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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    That interpretation is highly...Scalia-esque. Lol.
    bro do you even lift? scalia-esque?? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    bro do you even lift? scalia-esque?? lol
    F*ck lifting, I workout by performing a rendition of Black Swan in basketball shorts. You think Oxy Elite Pro is the best fatburner out there? Nah, interpretive dancing all day. I do lift but not a body building type routine, my program is built around boxing.
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    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...olice-say?lite

    Here's a guy who was able to purchase weapons legally. Yep, thinks are working out quite well. Who needs more restrictions.
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    blame the po-po...people called several times and they were late to respond, if you dont wanna blame the po-po, blame the gunny shop for not doin its job correctly and using common sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    blame the po-po...people called several times and they were late to respond, if you dont wanna blame the po-po, blame the gunny shop for not doin its job correctly and using common sense
    Which is like going after the street pusher instead of crippling the organization. You really don't see the problem here? We can make 1000 excuses of this guy not doing his job, or that guy, or we can put in place sensible controls where a guy like this should not be able to legally stockpile firearms, including AK. Lol. And FYI- He wasn't flagged in the background check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Which is like going after the street pusher instead of crippling the organization. You really don't see the problem here? We can make 1000 excuses of this guy not doing his job, or that guy, or we can put in place sensible controls where a guy like this should be able to legally stockpile firearms. And FYI- He wasn't flagged in the background check.
    ok...so no excuses...if guns were illegal..what would have stopped this guy from getting them illegallly? or since he was so mentally ill and disturbed, what would have kept him from beating his mother to death with a stock pile of louisville sluggers? or what wood have kept him from suffocating her with a spoon...crazy people are crazy and theyre going to do harm no matter whats illegal or legal.

    the fact that he chose to get a gun legally or committed the acts with a gun period have little to do with actual problem, which was his lack of mental health and observation. dude shoulda been locked up long ago and shame on his mother and proffessionals who did nt do it. unfortunately, the same people who were didnt get him the help he needs are the people who suffered the concequences
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    ok...so no excuses...if guns were illegal..what would have stopped this guy from getting them illegallly? or since he was so mentally ill and disturbed, what would have kept him from beating his mother to death with a stock pile of louisville sluggers? or what wood have kept him from suffocating her with a spoon...crazy people are crazy and theyre going to do harm no matter whats illegal or legal.

    the fact that he chose to get a gun legally or committed the acts with a gun period have little to do with actual problem, which was his lack of mental health and observation. dude shoulda been locked up long ago and shame on his mother and proffessionals who did nt do it. unfortunately, the same people who were didnt get him the help he needs are the people who suffered the concequences
    When did I say they should be illegal? Lol. Did you read the article? He was able to "legally" acquire/amass a stockpile of weapons, even though he had a prior conviction, as he was never flagged in the system. That's a problem! Background checks are not universal. They differ from state to state, and depending on the type of transaction. Person to person sales, gun show sales rarely result in background checks being performed, even the NRA acknowledges this. That's effing ridiculous. Strict universal background checks should be enforced, end of story.

    Now saying that you can kill someone with a spoon, or other any other object isn't an equitable argument. You can come up to me with a spoon, but good luck on getting very far with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    When did I say they should be illegal? Lol. Did you read the article? He was able to "legally" acquire/amass a stockpile of weapons, even though he had a prior conviction, as he was never flagged in the system. That's a problem! Background checks are not universal. They differ from state to state, and depending on the type of transaction. Person to person sales, gun show sales rarely result in background checks being performed, even the NRA acknowledges this. That's effing ridiculous. Strict universal background checks should be enforced, end of story.

    Now saying that you can kill someone with a spoon, or other any other object isn't an equitable argument. You can come up to me with a spoon, but good luck on getting very far with it.
    thats the case with me and you...not a crazy person and a middle aged woman....the argument is the same. and you didnt say they should be illegal, i was just pointing out that legislating guns wont fix the problem, the police arent fixing the problem, the registration system isnt fixing the problem...the problem was with him not being locked up was the point
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...olice-say?lite

    Here's a guy who was able to purchase weapons legally. Yep, thinks are working out quite well. Who needs more restrictions.
    Right, and according to the FBI, Clubs and Hammers kill more people than rifles and shotguns...so dont we need to prioritize restricting club and hammer ownership? After all its the club and hammer doing the killing, not the killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    thats the case with me and you...not a crazy person and a middle aged woman....the argument is the same. and you didnt say they should be illegal, i was just pointing out that legislating guns wont fix the problem, the police arent fixing the problem, the registration system isnt fixing the problem...the problem was with him not being locked up was the point
    Regardless, you're missing the bigger point. He should have never been able to legally stockpiles weapons, which he was, given that he was not flagged in the system. That displays a serious flaw that could have potentially brought harm to many more people. Who looks out for their interests? F*ck that, universal checks across the board, period. I care less how much it costs you. I don't care if it raises prices on you. If you can't afford it, find another hobby, or enter a new profession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Right, and according to the FBI, Clubs and Hammers kill more people than rifles and shotguns...so dont we need to prioritize restricting club and hammer ownership? After all its the club and hammer doing the killing, not the killer.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...fles-shotguns/
    You're missing the point as per usual. He should NOT have been able to purchase weapons based on having a prior conviction, period. There's nothing to debate. He had a prior conviction, and yet was able to legally purchase those weapons. He was not flagged in the system, which he should have been. Obviously if there are major flaws like this at that level, then they need to be addressed. Read the article, don't just rebut the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Regardless, you're missing the bigger point. He should have never been able to legally stockpiles weapons, which he was, given that he was not flagged in the system. That displays a serious flaw that could have potentially brought harm to many more people. Who looks out for their interests? F*ck that, universal checks across the board, period. I don't care how much it costs you. I don't care if it raises prices on you. If you can't afford it, find another hobby, or enter a new profession.
    universal checks or standardized checks?? i think they should be standardized and made mandatory sure. but if the govt is going require the checks, they should at the very least have a system thats worth a damn to use.

    i cant tell if im agreeing with you cause your right or if its cause im so brain dead from multitasking for the past few hours lol
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    and your right he shouldnt have! theres no excuse as to why he was able to get the guns, especially if it was after he was found to be effed up in the head and be mentally disturbed
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    universal checks or standardized checks?? i think they should be standardized and made mandatory sure. but if the govt is going require the checks, they should at the very least have a system thats worth a damn to use.

    i cant tell if im agreeing with you cause your right or if its cause im so brain dead from multitasking for the past few hours lol
    Lol. Well surely the current system can't be worth a damn, since it allowed a convicted murderer to legally acquire weapons. But ya know, it must be a government conspiracy. I'm sure infowars will get to the bottom of this and tell us it's a flag operation. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    When did I say they should be illegal? Lol. Did you read the article? He was able to "legally" acquire/amass a stockpile of weapons, even though he had a prior conviction, as he was never flagged in the system. That's a problem! Background checks are not universal. They differ from state to state, and depending on the type of transaction. Person to person sales, gun show sales rarely result in background checks being performed, even the NRA acknowledges this. That's effing ridiculous. Strict universal background checks should be enforced, end of story.

    Now saying that you can kill someone with a spoon, or other any other object isn't an equitable argument. You can come up to me with a spoon, but good luck on getting very far with it.
    So he had guns, he did not commit a crime. Not saying this guy should have guns...but just saying. They are capitalizing over something that never happened.

    The big indicator is that he has a "history of mental illness" which tell us he had been taking them suicide pills that the mainstream media hides from the American people to protect their sponsors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    You're missing the point as per usual. He should NOT have been able to purchase weapons based on having a prior conviction, period. There's nothing to debate. He had a prior conviction, and yet was able to legally purchase those weapons. He was not flagged in the system, which he should have been. Obviously if there are major flaws like this at that level, then they need to be addressed. Read the article, don't just rebut the link.
    Why not? Did they try to restrict whats more dangerous in society (proven by the FBI) for him to purchase a hammer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So he had guns, he did not commit a crime. Not saying this guy should have guns...but just saying. They are capitalizing over something that never happened.

    The big indicator is that he has a "history of mental illness" which is an indicator that he had been taking them suicide pills that the mainstream media hides from the American people to protect their sponsors.
    Lol. Did you even read the article? Ah, he killed his mom and was convicted for it. Is it because Alex Jones didn't write the article? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So he had guns, he did not commit a crime. Not saying this guy should have guns...but just saying. They are capitalizing over something that never happened.

    The big indicator is that he has a "history of mental illness" which is an indicator that he had been taking them suicide pills that the mainstream media hides from the American people to protect their sponsors.
    suicide pills??

    sarcasm? sorry im terrible at sarcasm in general but its even worse with forum posts...

    and southpaw agree or disagree...if the govt is gonna require checks, they should have a system thats worth a damn to use that everybody has reasonable and accurate access too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Lol. Did you even read the article? Ah, he killed his mom and was convicted for it. Is it because Alex Jones didn't write the article? Lol.
    Yes, I saw that. Why didnt they mention his prescription history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Yes, I saw that. Why didnt they mention his prescription history?
    Are you seriously that dense? The m'fer killed his mom! He should NOT have been able to purchase firearms, period. What are you not getting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    suicide pills??

    sarcasm? sorry im terrible at sarcasm in general but its even worse with forum posts...

    and southpaw agree or disagree...if the govt is gonna require checks, they should have a system thats worth a damn to use that everybody has reasonable and accurate access too?
    Most of these mass shooting the shooters are on strong psychiatric drugs. For example some of the major ones such as the Columbine shooting, The Colorodo Theater shooting, and slowly coming out the Newton shooter they are all on psychiatric drugs when in the inserts themselves have listed violent outbursts and suicide as some of the side effects which these facts are always hidden from the mainstream media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Yes, I saw that. Why didnt they mention his prescription history?
    ok what was his Rx history?? i dont know the point your making?? please! inform me?!?!? I need more cowbell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Are you seriously that dense? The m'fer killed his mom! He should NOT have been able to purchase firearms, period. What are you not getting?
    I need details of the incident to have an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Most of these mass shooting the shooters are on strong psychiatric drugs. For example some of the major ones such as the Columbine shooting, The Colorodo Theater shooting, and slowly coming out the Newton shooter they are all on psychiatric drugs when in the inserts themselves have listed violent outbursts and suicide as some of the side effects which these facts are always hidden from the mainstream media.
    what is a strong phychiatric drug?? are you talking about a specific class of drug or what??

    some people take paxil for premature ejaculation issues...should they be prevented from owning a gun?
    i take lexapro cause i have GAD...should that be flagged so i cant buy a gun?

    im just curious as to what drugs they were on becaus if it was the same drug cause if a certain drug is the common denominator then either the drug needs to be taken off the market cause its causing people to shoot people and other **** or they need to make sure the people that are on it are locked up so they cant do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    suicide pills??

    sarcasm? sorry im terrible at sarcasm in general but its even worse with forum posts...

    and southpaw agree or disagree...if the govt is gonna require checks, they should have a system thats worth a damn to use that everybody has reasonable and accurate access too?
    You'll get use to AX, he's the resident forum guy who write batsh*t crazy things. Lol. I embrace him nevertheless. Of course I think the background check program should be worth a damn, which is why I strongly advocate for it. But you can't tell me, in a current system where a convicted murderer is able to stockpile weapons, including an AK, that this current system works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I need details of the incident to have an opinion.
    OMG man, seriously and I even try with you. Lol. What details do you need? Here goes...he killed his mom and was convicted and served time for it. Got out and began legally stockpiling weapons, which he should not have been able to, if the system wasn't broken. I just did your homework for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Are you seriously that dense? The m'fer killed his mom! He should NOT have been able to purchase firearms, period. What are you not getting?
    In all seriousness I do not want violent criminals who abused their privileges to be able to purchase drugs. Then again, if this dude killed his mom he should be behind bars for life thats what I support. I support hard prison time.

    When it comes to background checks, the ones who get restricted the most are law abiding citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    You'll get use to AX, he's the resident forum guy who write batsh*t crazy things. Lol. I embrace him nevertheless. Of course I think the background check program should be worth a damn, which is why I strongly advocate for it. But you can't tell me, in a current system where a convicted murderer is able to stockpile weapons, including an AK, that this current system works?
    it obviously doesnt work lol i just think that the very people that are bitching and moaning about it are the ones that arent lifting a finger to fix the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    You'll get use to AX, he's the resident forum guy who write batsh*t crazy things. Lol. I embrace him nevertheless. Of course I think the background check program should be worth a damn, which is why I strongly advocate for it. But you can't tell me, in a current system where a convicted murderer is able to stockpile weapons, including an AK, that this current system works?
    I just disagree with the solution...I want convicted murders in prison for life, or labor camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    I just disagree with the solution...I want convicted murders in prison for life, or labor camp.
    good thing FEMA has a few camps ready to go
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