Romney's Running mate

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    You are correct, Clinton did cut defense spending but it wasnt anything significant, if I read correctly it was reduced by 16% which imo isnt significant, defense was just put on a short term sale. We really dunno how much is really spent under any administration anyways due to the black budgets so a decrease in defense can coincide with an increase in black budgets so we never know.

    We can look further back and history and see the biggest military spender by far was Liberal democrat Franklin Rosevelt, and liberal democrat LBJ launched the Vietnam War which also made increases in defense spending.

    The only point Im trying to make is (as you know as I repeat over and over, lol) there is no significance between the two parties.
    16% is significant when you look at the total of the expenses. I do agree though, black projects are certainly things we cant account for. I had an interesting conversation with someone once who was a government contractor. Pretty eye opening

    It only makes sense that LBJ and FDR were huge in expenditures. You are right, there is not anything drastically different. they approach the issues with "different" words, but leave it the same way.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    16% is significant when you look at the total of the expenses. I do agree though, black projects are certainly things we cant account for. I had an interesting conversation with someone once who was a government contractor. Pretty eye opening

    It only makes sense that LBJ and FDR were huge in expenditures. You are right, there is not anything drastically different. they approach the issues with "different" words, but leave it the same way.
    edit, never-mind.

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  3. Huh...actually found something I highly respect and admire Paul Ryan about, he is a workout freak! Trains in (and I thought I heard he teaches) P90X too.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...kout-plan.html

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  4. Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    Ax, you are speaking more directly to the current administration as evidenced by this graph. When looking historically, my statement is correct. Look at the Clinton years and the cuts to military spending (right or wrong) and take a Reagan as the flip side.

    Additionally, we most also account for really foolish wars in recent years as part of this equation.

    Why? He released the same amount as McCain 4 years ago. The whole tax return issue is so silly
    The tax thing is silly. People should be more pissed about how obama spends OUR money!!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    The tax thing is silly. People should be more pissed about how obama spends OUR money!!
    That tax thing is silly, if Romney isnt paying income tax he isnt breaking Constitutional law. The dialogue should be the illegal income tax system as a whole, not Romney.

    Lets try not to (and I dont mean to tell you what to do, lol) get caught up with Obama and how he spends our money, if Romney was President the past 4 years nothing would really be different.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ax1

    That tax thing is silly, if Romney isnt paying income tax he isnt breaking Constitutional law. The dialogue should be the illegal income tax system as a whole, not Romney.

    Lets try not to (and I dont mean to tell you what to do, lol) get caught up with Obama and how he spends our money, if Romney was President the past 4 years nothing would really be different.
    I don't think romney said "you didn't build that." Obama is anti business, sosicalist/ Communist mother fuker and USA should be embarrassed to have a moron like him as our president.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494

    I don't think romney said "you didn't build that." Obama is anti business, sosicalist/ Communist mother fuker and USA should be embarrassed to have a moron like him as our president.
    Karl would be proud hearing him say "let's move forward....with shared prosperity"

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Huh...actually found something I highly respect and admire Paul Ryan about, he is a workout freak! Trains in (and I thought I heard he teaches) P90X too.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...kout-plan.html

    from what I read, the guy is 6=8% body fat

    I still dont think Romney/Ryan win, as I think regardless of how they try to get out in front of the "plan" the left will continue to play it as a destruction of medicare, even though Obamacare is far worse, which could cost him a swing state here or there. Americans in general are stupid and listen to the talking heads.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    from what I read, the guy is 6=8% body fat

    I still dont think Romney/Ryan win, as I think regardless of how they try to get out in front of the "plan" the left will continue to play it as a destruction of medicare, even though Obamacare is far worse, which could cost him a swing state here or there. Americans in general are stupid and listen to the talking heads.
    I agree AE

  10. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    I don't think romney said "you didn't build that." Obama is anti business, sosicalist/ Communist mother fuker and USA should be embarrassed to have a moron like him as our president.
    Yes I saw that speech, I didnt approve of the way that came across.

    Well...I dont think that was as bad as when he bowed down to communist dictator Hu Jintao and our wonderful compassionate oil King of Saudi Arabia.

    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    from what I read, the guy is 6=8% body fat

    I still dont think Romney/Ryan win, as I think regardless of how they try to get out in front of the "plan" the left will continue to play it as a destruction of medicare, even though Obamacare is far worse, which could cost him a swing state here or there. Americans in general are stupid and listen to the talking heads.
    I dont get it (well I do.) Romney passes approximately the same health care law that Obamacare is modeled after yet he preaches to repeal Obamacare on day 1, lol what a joke and people cheer Romney for those threats.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    Karl would be proud hearing him say "let's move forward....with shared prosperity"
    Karl deep in his mind would be proud thinking how he made his Wall Street and Central Bank financers a crap load of money.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by ax1


    I dont get it (well I do.) Romney passes approximately the same health care law that Obamacare is modeled after yet he preaches to repeal Obamacare on day 1, lol what a joke and people cheer Romney for those threats.
    I actually like the way Romney has handled this. He offered it as a state option, not federal. Which is a huge distinction as a states rights issue.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I actually like the way Romney has handled this. He offered it as a state option, not federal. Which is a huge distinction as a states rights issue.
    Thats true. I like how the country is supposed to be set up as mini-countries which makes it more flexible for people to move should they not be compatible with local laws.
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  14. or open up health insurers across state lines..

  15. Quote Originally Posted by carpee
    or open up health insurers across state lines..
    This... This should have been the first thing they tried

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I actually like the way Romney has handled this. He offered it as a state option, not federal. Which is a huge distinction as a states rights issue.
    Pretty much every Republican was for something like Obamacare until it was coming from Democrats. Then it magically became poison...but if it got proposed by Romney (or say McCain did when he won) they would lap it all up yummy yummy. Back to Ax's no significant difference between the two parties, certainly not fiscally.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Pretty much every Republican was for something like Obamacare until it was coming from Democrats. Then it magically became poison...but if it got proposed by Romney (or say McCain did when he won) they would lap it all up yummy yummy. Back to Ax's no significant difference between the two parties, certainly not fiscally.
    I agree it is certainly a similar plan, however, there is a huge difference between mandating it for a nation than a state. The whole purpose of federal government (as written in the constitution) is to allow all powers not expressly given to the federal government to be granted to the state. I think Romneycare makes that hugely different. I dont agree with any form of socialized medicine for those over 21, but I think the comparison is entirely different. (damn, I sound too much like Ron Paul......Ax I know you are smiling)

    I do agree though, that Republicans would have loved it if they came out with it, and Democrats would have hated it then.

    It is the nonsense that is our 2-party system

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Yes I saw that speech, I didnt approve of the way that came across.

    Well...I dont think that was as bad as when he bowed down to communist dictator Hu Jintao and our wonderful compassionate oil King of Saudi Arabia.
    What even went through his mind when he said that. So when immigrants came to america their hard work and determination didn't make them successful the government did?? i don't think so. whats next, every pound of muscle i put on the government helped me build that too. What a joke.

    He should have been impeached for that. they bow to us... we are the greatest nation on the planet. He makes us look weak and like we are the bad guys.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494

    What even went through his mind when he said that. So when immigrants came to america their hard work and determination didn't make them successful the government did?? i don't think so. whats next, every pound of muscle i put on the government helped me build that too. What a joke.

    He should have been impeached for that. they bow to us... we are the greatest nation on the planet. He makes us look weak and like we are the bad guys.
    http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/...-dimon-2012-8/

    it's a free ****ing country..

    or it's supposed to be

  20. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    What even went through his mind when he said that. So when immigrants came to america their hard work and determination didn't make them successful the government did?? i don't think so. whats next, every pound of muscle i put on the government helped me build that too. What a joke.

    He should have been impeached for that. they bow to us... we are the greatest nation on the planet. He makes us look weak and like we are the bad guys.
    His opinion and freedom of speech are not impeachable offenses. His policies are. He took oath of office to protect the Constitution and he has ripped it to shreds which his police state policies, stripping of our basic rights and liberties with the extension of the Patriot Act, NDAA act, National Resources Separateness Act, etc...and his cooperation with the UN to grant him war authorities without seeking congressional approval and much more.
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  21. Lol I cant believe. Anybody would vote for romney. He flip flops everything he says. Even if he was well spoken he wouldnt get my vote since im union.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jstrong20 View Post
    Lol I cant believe. Anybody would vote for romney. He flip flops everything he says. Even if he was well spoken he wouldnt get my vote since im union.Unionist
    I agree with you 100% with your statement on Romney, but your not suggesting Obama hasn't flip flopped on everything he says, are you?
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jstrong20
    Lol I cant believe. Anybody would vote for romney. He flip flops everything he says. Even if he was well spoken he wouldnt get my vote since im union.Unionist
    because Marxism isn't the answer to our problems..

    but yes, Romney is a flip flopper

  24. I'm not a fan of either candidate.. they're both flip-floppers.

    BUT I'll definitely be voting for Romney simply because his goal is to bring the jobs back to America, which is what we need.. plus I support free trade and small businesses.. large corporations don't do anybody HERE any good.

    People just need to be logical and use common sense.. do you want all the jobs to be in China and buy our oil from other countries.. or bring the jobs back home and use our own resources and avoid war?

    Pretty simple to me!

    Liberal minded people aren't looking at the big picture.. they just think the Republican party is out to take away everybody's fun, haha.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by mls51112 View Post
    I'm not a fan of either candidate.. they're both flip-floppers.

    BUT I'll definitely be voting for Romney simply because his goal is to bring the jobs back to America, which is what we need.. plus I support free trade and small businesses.. large corporations don't do anybody HERE any good.

    People just need to be logical and use common sense.. do you want all the jobs to be in China and buy our oil from other countries.. or bring the jobs back home and use our own resources and avoid war?

    Pretty simple to me!

    Liberal minded people aren't looking at the big picture.. they just think the Republican party is out to take away everybody's fun, haha.
    Do you really think Romney isnt going to give big time support to the large corporations and banks/financial institutions that are financing his campaign and that will lobby him once he is in the white house?

    I do like what you say though in regards to small businesses and free trade.
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