[Sheesh]

Saddam Hussein's Refusal to Account for Gulf War Prisoners

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UNSCRs 686, 687 and others require Saddam Hussein to release immediately any Gulf War prisoners and to cooperate in accounting for missing and dead Kuwaitis and others from the Gulf War. Saddam has continued to violate these resolutions.



Saddam Hussein has failed to return, or account for, a large number of Kuwaiti citizens and citizens of other countries who were detained during the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait and continues to refuse to cooperate with the Tripartite Commission to resolve the cases.



Of 609 cases of missing Gulf War POWs/MIAs representing 14 nationalities - including one American pilot - under review by the Tripartite Commission on Gulf War Missing, only 4 have been resolved. Because of continued Iraqi obfuscation and concealment, very few cases have been resolved since the Gulf War. Saddam Hussein denies having any knowledge of the others and claims that any relevant records were lost in the aftermath of the Gulf War.



In a December 2001 report to the UN Security Council, the UN Secretary-General criticized the Iraqi Government's refusal to cooperate with the U.N. on the issue of the missing POWs/MIAs citizens. Iran reports that the Iraqi Government still has not accounted for 5,000 Iranian POW's missing since the Iran-Iraq War.



"Secretary General reiterates little progress on the issue of repatriation or return of all Kuwaiti and third country nationals or their remains, as Iraq refused to cooperate with the Tripartite Commission."



In August 2001, Amnesty International reported that Saddam Hussein has the world's worst record for numbers of persons who have disappeared and remain unaccounted for.



The Iraqi Government continued to ignore the more than 16,000 cases conveyed to it in 1994 and 1995 by the UN, as well as requests from the Governments of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to account for the whereabouts of those who had disappeared during Iraq's 1990-91 occupation of Kuwait, and from Iran regarding the whereabouts of prisoners of war that Iraq captured in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War.



"Security Council regrets that no progress made on return of Kuwaiti national archives, reiterate need for Iraq to immediately fulfill all requirements under the relevant resolutions, including repatriation or return of all Kuwaiti and third country nationals or their remains."

[Sheesh]

Saddam Hussein's Refusal to Return Stolen Property

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Iraq destroyed much stolen property before it could be returned, and Kuwait claims that large quantities of equipment remain unaccounted for:



The UN and Kuwait say Iraq has not returned extensive Kuwaiti state archives and museum pieces, as well as military equipment, including eight Mirage F-1 aircraft, 245 Russian-made fighting vehicles, 90 M113 armored personnel carriers, one Hawk battery, 3,750 Tow and anti-tank missiles, and 675 Russian-made surface-to-air missile batteries.

[Sheesh]

Saddam Hussein's Efforts to Circumvent Economic Sanctions

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Saddam Hussein has illegally imported hundreds of millions of dollars in goods in violation of economic sanctions and outside of the UN's Oil-for-Food program. For example, Iraq has imported fiber optic communications systems that support the Iraqi military.



Iraq has diverted dual-use items obtained under the Oil for Food program for military purposes. For example, Iraq diverted UN approved trucks from humanitarian relief purposes to military purposes, and has used construction equipment to help rebuild WMD-affiliated facilities.



The Iraqi regime illicitly exports hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil each day in flagrant violation of UNSCRs and blatant disregard for the humanitarian well-being of the Iraqi people. In so doing, it has deprived the Iraqi people of billions of dollars in food, medicine, and other humanitarian assistance that would have been provided if the regime had exported the oil under the UN Oil-for-Food program. Instead, Saddam Hussein has used these billions to fund his WMD programs, pay off his security apparatus, and supply himself and his supporters with luxury items and other goods.



In January 2002, President Bush reported to Congress that "as most recently stated in a November 19 UN report, the government of Iraq is not committed to using funds available through the Oil for Food program to improve the health and welfare of the Iraqi people ... Iraq's contracting delays, cuts in food, medicine, educational and other humanitarian sector allocations, government attempts to impede or shut down humanitarian NGO operations in northern Iraq, and Baghdad's delays in the issuance of visas for UN personnel demonstrate that the Iraqi regime is trying to undermine the effectiveness of the program."



Saddam Hussein spends smuggled oil wealth on his lavish palaces and inner circle, rather than on the humanitarian needs of the Iraqi people.



Saddam Hussein has used water pumps, piping, and other supplies that could have been used to repair urban sewer and water systems in order to construct moats and canals at his palaces.

[Sheesh]

Methods of Torture

[windwords7]

Yeah, let's let him be. We definatley shouldn't go to war with such a wonderful, peaceloving leader

[Lifeguard]

Originally posted by windwords7
Yeah, let's let him be. We definatley shouldn't go to war with such a wonderful, peaceloving leader

Yeah WW I agree, he's not THAT bad of a guy...

 

WW that pic of the guy that was covered in Small Pox boils was truly disturbing.  I support this oncoming war 100%, my brother is on his way over there right now.  BUT, what most people dont know is this:

1.  We have had Special Forces operatives in Iraq for probly the past 3 months or so.

2. These "operatives" have been broadcasting propoganda over Iraq's TV and radio stations. 

3. Targets have been identified, coordinates logged and fed to Cruise Missiles that will destroy them.

4.  The US's military forces ARE capable of carrying out this WHOLE OPERATION by ourselves, without any help from other UN or NATO nations.

5. France is not even a member of NATO, so they are lucky we are actually listenting to their opinion.

6. No, more inspectors WONT get the job done!

7. The last Gulf War lasted about 100 hours on the ground, and this was 10 years ago....with all the technological advances we have had (many of which are Top Secret) how long do you think the war will last now??

9. It's a war, people die (some of which will be ours), duh

10. "I saw Blackhawk Down, we got our asses kicked"....analyze that statement:

--- there was 6 of us (Spec Ops) there that were rescued, they were wounded, fine. 3-4 died I believe (my numbers might be off)

---How many Somolians died??: 1200 (thereabouts)

hmmm...as I see it the kill ratio was about 300-400 (of them) to 1 (of us)

Us? Asses kicked?...I think not

Keep in mind, that was only a handful of our "Special Forces Operatives."  Imagine what we can do if we "unleash the hounds" so-to-speak.

 

What I have said is just the tip of the iceberg, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes then any of us know.

 

LG.

 

BTW, I voted "yes"

 

[John Benz]

I'm sick and tired of hearing all the bleading heart liberals criticize George W. Bush. The time to move against Iraq is NOW!

[BigAl]

Originally posted by Rictor33
I hate the fact that we were attacked, but hell man you push people hard enough they are going to push back, and if Saddam uses chemical weapons on us, I dont ****ing blame the guy personally. 1st off I doubt he has any nukes or anything else, several inspectors have said that this country has nothing,

this person truly saddens me...first off, he's from NYC...wonder if the firemen, police, and port auth survivors would be happy with his thoughts? it's amazing how 9/11 is starting to be easily forgotten...
you wouldn't blame him if he ****ed our guys up?!?!
you ever give any time to your country? i gave 8 ****in years of my life to this country and wouldn't change that one bit...i have an uncle who gave two tours in 'nam, and my brother is over there right now, *******....i'd love to come to NYC and stick my ****in boot up your ass...and i live rather close to the city, so don't think i'm talkin out my ass...you ****in' FRENCH? why not pack your bags and move out of the country...maybe you could become a human shield over in baghdad, good idea, eh? but that means you'd have to give up the good life your enjoying here from this terrible country you live in...how about sending your tax return over to iraq? how bad do you really feel about us beatin' up on saddaam?
and how about your inspectors? yeah that Scott Ritter is a ****in credible chap, eh? all the news media had him on till he got caught trying to get with a knowingly underage girl off the internet....atleast we don't have to listen to his anti-american banter any more...

to the bros on this forum, i do apologize for this outburst, i normally don't post, but this clown really pissed me off...i truly hope our lads don't get gassed, especially my brother...and then to hear what this ******* has to say about that, un****in believable...
good nite, al

[windwords7]

Good stuff Al.

[msclbldrguy]

bigal...thanks for this...and lg...no doubt that more is going on than we will know. what frosts me is these folks accuse us of being the aggressor...apparently we should just sit back and continue to let these half wits keep attacking us...lessee...us embassies, warships, barracks...and we never replied...seems to me we've been very restrained. like benz...time's up for saddam.

[dg806]

Damn! I'll have to admit you guys are alright!!!!!!!
Let's rock and roll!
We're coming motherfuvkers. We will win and we will NEVER FORGET 9-11!!!!!!!!!

[hamper19]

War is imminent, no doubt. Im behind it 100% also. What I think is we should let Britain take the spotlite for alittle while and not be so "hungry" just yet. Britain says 7-10 days for the deadline, we say by the 17th (i think)

We do need to be wary of the people who oppose us though. Russia and china to be the main concerns. China's not a country like Iraq, if we ever had to go to a war against them, thats not going to be a cake walk. Of course we will win, but many of us would die.

I just hope we aren't putting ALL of our focus on Iraq, while North Korea is just hanging out. We need to keep a watchful eye on them as well.

LG I agree with you also, I always say that we definitely have **** that people don't even know about (weapons etc.)

The ONLY reason we need other countries support on this is financially. Do you think GWB is trying to get support for fire power....hell no......we can not and will not be beaten. However when it comes time to REBUILD IRAQ, thats when we will need others help. Its going to cost a hell of a lot to fight the war......and even MORE to rebuild. Thats the ONLY reason I say lets wait just a little longer....granted we will find nothing..etc. BUt at least that will give us a chance to bring more countries behind us...

oh and all I know is....IRAQ watch out for the MOAB bomb.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates...-2-88-1028.jsp


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[LakeMountD]

Yes, I have always said we need to be careful of the bigger countries like China and Russia. Who knows they could ally up one day. Watch the movie Red Dawn and it will portray that. I mean yeah Russia is in economic turmoil but when you add that with over 10,000 nuclear weapons, its not a good situation .

And the MOAB I don't believe got used in Iraq, I think they said it wasn't operational quite yet. They were testing it in Florida, though.

[Sheesh]

Damn LAKE! Kicking it old school bro.

[Fender85]

Wow this is an old thread. Well in the sense that it is better to arrive late then never, I feel that the war was fully justified. Are there weapons of mass destruction? Yes. Are they in Iraq? Maybe not. The fact is, if Iraq didn't/doesn't have WMD, then every nation in the world with half an intelligence agency was wrong. Everyone said Iraq had WMD, whether or not they actually wanted to go to war. Hell even if there aren't WMD, I believe that the war was COMPLETELY justified due to how bad of guys that Saddam and his two sons were. I'll probably be going over there next year, so I'll just have to find the WMD myself.

[Number 5]

Originally Posted by Fender85

The fact is, if Iraq didn't/doesn't have WMD, then every nation in the world with half an intelligence agency was wrong.

where do you get this stuff from? one of the reasons that most of the european countries didn't back the US-led invasion of iraq was b/c their intelligence agencies weren't sure whether the weapons were there or not. even in britain some of the M5 guys wrote objections to the 'sexed up dossier' at the time it was used to sell the war.

-5

[PC1]

Originally Posted by Number 5

where do you get this stuff from? one of the reasons that most of the european countries didn't back the US-led invasion of iraq was b/c their intelligence agencies weren't sure whether the weapons were there or not. even in britain some of the M5 guys wrote objections to the 'sexed up dossier' at the time it was used to sell the war.

-5

"Most" European countries didn't back the US led invasion? No, it was largely France and Germany who resisted. And btw, they both signed the UN resolutions backing the use of force to bring Iraq into compliance, so clearly the UN believed it as well.

The US believed Hussein had WMD, that should be enough for people living here in the US.