Muliculturism has Failed
- 08-27-2011, 05:33 PM
- 08-27-2011, 05:46 PM
08-28-2011, 05:40 PM
Are you really referring to me as Hitler? I'm not even really sure how to reply to that, to be honest! Just a few differences between me and Hitler:
1. My thoughts and actions do not affect ANYBODY else (I am saying that I want to be able to MOVE to an all-white neighborhood, not "purify" my current neighborhood)
2. I don't want to hurt anybody (no explanation needed)
3. I believe everybody has an equal right to exist, but we also have a right to exist SEPARATELY if we so choose (I don't care much for other cultures, so why am I forced to accept them?)
Case in point. I don't believe in abortion, yet I am forced to fund it! Is that fair? Nope, but that's multi-culturalism at its finest. Multiculturalism has only served to diminish European culture and traditional family values in America, and I don't much care for it. Yet, I am shunned at the mere mention that I shouldn't be forced to be exposed to it. Why in America is it wrong to cling to your own culture? Oh wait, it's not...unless you're white. Let's see, here's some rap lyrics that should drive my point home:
"Now I'm black but black people trip 'cause white people
like me; white people like me I but don't like them. . . . I don't
hate whites, I just gotta death wish for mother****ers that ain't
right"; --"Race War"; Ice-T, Home Invasion, 1993, Priority Records,
Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom
"To all my Universal Soldier's: stay at attention while
I strategize an invasion; the mission be assassination, snipers
hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard around the world;
my plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage. . . .
see, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler. . . . lyrical
specialist, underworld terrorist. . . . keep the unity thick like
mud. . . . I pulling out gats , launching deadly attacks"; --"Blood
for Blood"; Killarmy, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang
Records, Priority Records, The EMI Group, United Kingdom
"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles they
found that they couldn't handle us; Bloods, CRIPS, on the same squad,
with the Essays up, and nigga, it's time to rob and mob and break the
white man off something lovely"; --"The Day the Niggaz Took Over"; Dr
Dre, The Chronic, 1993, Interscope Records, under Time Warner in
Multiculturalism at its finest right! There are many, many more examples out there, but that's all I care to find right now. You all know the extent of what I'm talking about. And this news story sums it all up: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp. Quick summary:
Christopher Newsom (23 years old) and his girlfriend Channon Christian (21 years old) were carjacked, and then tortured heinously. Christopher was sodomized repeatedly, they cut off his penis, set him on fire, and repeatedly shot him while his girlfriend was forced to watch. They then raped/sodomized her for 4 days, then cut off her breasts, poured bleach down her throat/vagina (all while alive), and suffocated her to death with a plastic bag (after putting her in the trash can to die, of course). Apparently, this story (along with MANY others) weren't sensational enough for ANY of the major news outlets to talk about, nor did any of the perpetrators receive hate-crime charges. Here's a quote as to how bad Channon sufferred:
"Channon's death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders...stopher_Newsom
How is that not a hate crime. Apparently, it wasn't sensational enough of a story for any of the national news agencies to cover the story. Could it be because they were White victims? In what world is a double rape/sodomy/torture/murder story not "news worthy"? We all know had it been White-on-Black, it would have been WORLD WIDE NEWS! It's "open-season" on White folks these days, and until minorities lend a voice to put an end to this ****, and start voicing some ****ing concern when WHITE people get violated like this (EVERY white on black crime is televised nationwide though, and decried by Whites), it becomes my duty to remove myself and my family from the situation all together (as much as possible). And if that makes me Hitler, than that makes you an idiot.
08-28-2011, 06:09 PM
I don't literally think you're Hitler as apparently you live in California. I have no desire to argue your "points" because I'm so far away from you in that thinking. You clearly don't like people who are different from you and I don't know what it's like to go through life with that viewpoint. I imagine it's horrible. It's going to be a bitch if you have a daughter who falls for a black guy or a son who turns out gay.
And FWIW, your "examples" of rap lyrics and an awful crime lend no fire to your argument at all as it's just as easy to find whites saying terrible things and doing terrible things. Do I really need to list a bunch of white serial killers, OKC bombers, Columbine killers, etc. times a million? Nah because I don't view white people as inherently evil nor do I view blacks, hispanics, or anyone else as inherently evil. Being able to "point" at bad stuff people have done doesn't help at all unless you had proof that no white people ever did anything wrong.
Have fun at your clan meetings, go move to a state where you can live far away from other people in a rural area where all these races that are out to "get you" will leave you alone.
08-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Wow man you beat me to it. It would be very easy to go on Aryan sites and quote some of the things on there that are more hateful than anything you've posted here. The other thing is criminal torture has no color, it's inhuman in any shape, form or creed that it comes in.
As I said before Brian, the experiences you have had obviously have really negatively affected you which is understandable however, if you continue to live with those things, you may end up with the terrible surprise of one of your own doing you horribly wrong. There are plenty of places you can go to live where people think just like you but hate is all consuming, I hope you find what you're looking for or better yet find some peace in your life.
08-28-2011, 06:35 PM
has anyone noticed that the news doesnt give much attention to the "flash robs" and flash mobs" that are going on?? from all footage i have been able to find it seems that these are all crimes done by blacks...if they were white they would be all over the news...espcially if the videos showed shown a black man get pulled out of his car while driving to get beaten down by white kids...but since it isnt...they dont show it...its just crazy to me...i guess the media has to filter the nation and world from the massive ignorance rising...plus how can blacks be made out to always be the victims if they are in fact the complete opposite.
08-28-2011, 06:42 PM
Actually, the rap lyrics and the crime do lend fire to my argument, due to the fact that society doesn't even see them as important enough to discuss them. Rodney king (horrible incident) was broadcast worldwide, yet this tragedy (which happened in 2007) never made it out of the local news! Why do you think that is? THAT is the point I'm getting at. If you listed off a bunch of white serial killers (most of which do not kill minorities), the OKC bomber (attacked the Government), Columbine killers (attacked bullies), etc., they were not TARGETING blacks/mexicans/whatever. MY examples are clearly illustrating minorities TARGETING Whites!!! That's my point! It has become POPULAR in society to HATE White people aggressively! I don't hate everybody! When I go out in public, I have every intention of mingling with other cultures. But for an example: if I want Mexican food, I go to a Mexican restaurant. I do NOT, however, have a Mexican come to my house, and FORCE me to eat WHATEVER it is they decide to make. THAT is the brand of multiculturalism that is going around in America today, and I don't like it. THAT is my point. I'm not in the Clan, nor do I much care for the clan/NS due to the fact that they (many of them anyways) are VIOLENT and SOCIALIST. TWO things that I am NOT. I LOVE our country, and I wish EVERYBODY the best that life has to offer. My point throughout this entire debacle has been to illustrate that society cares more about taking from me and FORCING me to give up my ideals in order to accomodate OTHER cultures, effectively making Whites look like bitches, and today's media enforces that viewpoint.
To further illustrate this point, did you hear about Carter Strange in Columbia, SC. What about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXZBhEBeV4 (White boy beat to hell by Blacks over slavery)? Probably not. But you probably heard about those 3 White boys that drove over that black guy in the South recently, didn't ya! I ABSOLUTELY HATE those White boys for doing that. They will forever burn in Hell. But what pisses me off is the fact that when it happens to White people, the Justice system and the Media completely FAIL to deliver. Our society only believes that White people are able to be racists. It is UNSAFE to be out in public as a White boy. Walk around your local community college and tell me you see White people actually having fun...doesn't happen often. What you will find is tons of rap music, gang signs, weed smoke, and "hey cracka, you stepped on my shoes" comments. ONCE that is fixed, I'll be more than happy to mingle. Until then, job #1 is to protect myself and my family.
08-28-2011, 06:54 PM
08-28-2011, 06:58 PM
Where exactly is it unsafe to be a white boy? It isn't for me. Is it dangerous for people in certain neighborhoods? Of course. Most of the places where it isn't safe to be white it isn't safe to be black, Hispanic, or Asian either! Whites not having fun? You literally sound insane when you say stuff like this. You don't see any whites having fun? What kind of a statement is that even? They are all hiding in basement cellars afraid that the big bad black man is going to get them? What world are you seeing? I was with my girlfriend today and saw a white kid skateboarding with a black kid. Insanity I know. "Pa, they are interacting together...we're too late!!!!"
WHITES ARE SMOKING WEED, WHITES ARE LISTENING TO RAP MUSIC! Seriously, what is wrong with you? Why do you want to make everything about race?
You seriously sound like you miss whites drinking from different water fountains than blacks and being in separate schools. You're entitled to your opinion, but we aren't going back that way. No matter how many news stories and links you find that try and show how bad it is to be white today.
Must have been similar to late 1800's white people. "Oh god, we don't have someone to do our work for us, it's AWFUL TO BE WHITE RIGHT NOW!!!!"
I'm white, having fun, loving life. I'm sorry that people who are different from you are making it so difficult for you to be happy.
08-28-2011, 07:23 PM
Are you being intentionally dense? I didn't say that I hate everybody that isn't White. I just said that I don't like their CULTURE.
You really have a difficult time understanding what I'm saying huh. Alright. The fact that blacks kill more blacks than whites IS horrible, but on a personal, physical level it doesn't affect me as much as blacks TARGETING WHITES (which is, in effect, increasing MY odds of becoming a victim). Of course all crime is bad! I'm singling out black people? Not really. I'm simply citing factual evidence that points to a societal bias against Whites. And again, if you go on a community college campus, it truly is not safe to be hanging around outside class (at least where I go to school, I suppose). When Whites gather together, they are quickly put in a "fight or get the hell out of here" kind of situation by blacks, who come over and start ****. TRUE FACT. And true, Whites are smoking weed and listening to rap music. Hell, I used to. Which is truly sad given the fact that the rap music they listen to is usually very similar to the rap music lyrics I cited. How's that for embarassing! And I already stated I would prefer going to separate schools, so I'll agree with you on that one! At least then, White people won't be bothered with incessant beating on desks and "flowing" by blacks in the back of the classroom who have absolutely ZERO intention of learning a damn thing, nor the constant exposure to "gang banging" mentality and having their race put down. Children are smart, and when they realize that society does not accept them the way they are, they will change to become accepted. WE ALL KNOW THIS! Hence why Whites are listening to Rap and smoking weed. They grew up being forced to believe that was the societal norm. Again, multiculturalism failure.
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. But as long as we debate the issues and not make things (too) personal, I'm fine with whatever is said. But so far, you have yet to present any sort of evidence to negate what I've said besides "you're crazy". I'm going to take that to mean that you can't, until you show otherwise.
Here's some MORE statistics to leave you with:
As of 1999, the FBI released the following statistics (I know it's old, but we can damn well assume things haven't gotten much, if any, better):
-Of the 1.9 million interracial violent crimes, 90% were committed by blacks on whites than vice-versa
-"Blacks are 100 to 250 times more likely to be involved in gang attacks on whites than the reverse"
-Fewer than 20% of these attacks on Whites were robberies...the other 80% were Rapes and Assaults (meaning 1.36 million Rapes and Assaults)
-Hispanics commit violent crimes at approximately three times the White rate
-Asians commit violent crimes at approximately 1/2 to 3/4 the White rate
-Hispanics are included in the White category for Hate Crimes, inflating the number of "White-perpetrated Hate Crimes"
Just for some reading, you should check it out. Feel free to provide any factual, statistical evidence at your leisure!
08-28-2011, 07:54 PM
So basically you think all black people act the exact same. And you think a vast majority of them are "targeting" whites. You do realize not all black people are smoking weed right? They aren't all listening to gangster rap music. Your problem is your bull**** generalizations. I know not all black people are doing these "cultural" things you hate because I know many of them that don't do it. I listen to some gangster rap music that has poor lyrics, why shouldn't I? Just because a song says something doesn't mean I have to do it. I don't need anyone judging what I listen to or watch, that's called FREEDOM.
As for these "true facts" like blacks are forcing whites to fight, again that is a generalization. Weird, I've seen a lot of times whites were fighting and blacks weren't even forcing them to do it! Insanity. Odd, I'm a teacher and I have black students who aren't flowing and banging on desks. Some of them are much better students than some of my white kids. This all sounds like crap you've made up or been told to believe in your littledistorted world.
As for your statistics, we know percentage wise blacks are more likely to be criminals. This has been known for a while. A lot of factors go into that, like a lack of education, poverty, etc. Perhaps instead of complaining and being fearful you should try and help change the factors that cause this. Donate your time somewhere to make a difference. I know this would cause you to interact with black people "GASP!"
You sound like the usual die hard right winger. Whining about "funding" abortion, but complaining about all these kids and not wanting to help any of them. I like to call those people pro-birth. They want kids to be born, but once they are forget them, "I don't want to fund their school or do anything to help them, I just want to make sure that poor single mom has a kid." That and being scared of people who are different. Let me guess, homophobic as well? Those big bad gay guys running around trying to get you as well.
You should just stay inside, CLEARLY all these people who are different from you are after you. Beware!
Have a good day, we aren't going to get either of us to change our sides at all. And I have to go outside and run some errands anyways. I'll be on the lookout for all these black people that are targeting me. I've got it down, if I see a bunch of white people I leave my car doors open because we know white people don't commit crimes. If I see a black person, obviously I speed away from the supermarket. They would rape and kill me if I put it in park.
08-28-2011, 08:47 PM
I never said YOU shouldn't listen to Gangster rap (although I do think GANGSTER rap is a big contributor to the downfall of black society, as well as society as a whole). But when a song is talking about killing White people for the sheer joy in it, are you singing along? Are you saying, "Ya, kill that White bitch"? And if so, I'll bet every time they say nigga, you just hum that line right! How laughable! You're actually SUBJUGATING YOURSELF! I would recommend you stop listening to it, but I also sacrificed for your freedom TO listen to it if you so choose. And of course I realize that many of my statistics are generalizations. However, I deal in the real world, where even if you are that one "unlucky" victim, you are STILL that one "unlucky" victim. I live on statistics (which are basically what our instincts operate on), and we KNOW what the statistics say. My views on blacks in schools are my OWN views, because as I have said before, I am in Community College now and I am also a product of the public school education system. I KNOW what I'm talking about because I've LIVED it. I've lived in the projects. Up until a year ago, I was listening to Gangsta Rap as well! Hell, I've been known to do an assortment of drugs WITH black people, as well as sell a wide assortment of drugs to ghetto-dwellers paying with food-stamps and welfare-checks! But I LEARNED from my mistakes! That's how I KNOW, first hand, that if these people would spend their welfare money where it's supposed to go, and show some initiative in climbing the corporate ladder, they would be able to make something of themselves. But they don't, and WE ALL suffer (well, the 48% of us that pay taxes, that is).
Lack of education, poverty, etc. makes someone become a murderer/rapist (especially one that targets White people)? That's new to me!
As far as abortion goes, I am "pro-self-control". If you can't afford a baby, don't make one! Men and women masturbate (hell, many women prefer it). Use protection if you HAVE to have sex. And if that fails...live with the consequences. It's called RESPONSIBILITY, you know, the needle in the eye of liberals world-wide! A fetus, if left alone, will mature into a live baby. Thus, "destroying" a fetus simply because it will become a burden is WRONG, since it will become a human life without any intervention from anyone else!
I have no problem with funding schools, but I do believe in holding TEACHERS accountable, AND giving them the tools to keep proper discipline in the classroom. If a student graduates 12th grade and can't read, SOMEONE needs to be fired. Case closed.
As far as lack of education goes as a potentiator for criminality, public school is essentially free to the students (as is their meals). The problem is THEY DON'T LEARN, and we don't force them to. WHY? Are you going to tell me that blacks are inherently dumb? Because if not, the only other logical explanation is that either YOU are failing them, or THEY aren't being held accountable or are being held to different standards (BY THE TEACHERS). Which is it?
Let me ask you, percentage wise, how many white-on-white fights have you seen, white-on-black, black-on-white, and black-on-black? I'm going to HAVE to call BS if you say White people fight more than blacks. Ever heard a White kid call a black person a nigger? I haven't! But yet I hear all kinds of racial epithets against Whites thrown around school everyday.
I'm okay with SOME taxes. I believe in safety nets. If you are UNABLE to work, I WILL HAPPILY HELP YOU (REGARDLESS of race). If you are mentally disabled, I will help you. If you are uneducated, I will help you get educated. If you lost your job, I'll help you between jobs (and I'll even help you find a job)! But what I will not do, is fund immoral behavior, nor help someone sit around the house and scheme up ways to defraud me out of more of my hard-earned money. Nor am I okay with people voting on whatever representatives in Congress promise to essentially raise their "expendable income" at my expense. I do NOT exist on this Earth to take care of somebody else, and it's damn ungrateful of them to vote to take MORE of my money so they can SPEND MORE.
It's so funny! I actually have quite a few black friends (one is named Jamanicus), who know all about how I think, and yet we're able to get along just fine! I even just went fishing with my Mexican buddy a few weekends ago! But it always seems like it's the WHITE liberals that are unwilling to accept what I've said, and resort to name-calling! Me and my friends simply discuss these things, and yes we argue about it, but at the end of the day, they at least UNDERSTAND my hesitation. You know, this should be a great opportunity for you all to ask a "typical racist" questions to get to know how we TRULY feel about things, and not what the media sensationalizes as news and the truth. But I doubt you all will take me up on this offer.
As far as your homophobic statement goes, I think it'd be difficult to be homophobic seeing as how I'm bisexual (damn, another one of your generalizations shot down). HOWEVER, I do believe it is a sin to act on those perversions (so I don't), and I do believe it is immoral to FORCE our children to accept such behavior as normal, as it is not. I, for whatever reason, am unfortunate enough to have had something happen to me during puberty that caused such a perversion. That's just my cross to bear, and BELIEVE ME, I am not happy about it. But I also do not fear homosexuals, and so long as they are not "in your face" about it ("flambuoyant"), I am perfectly willing to be friends with them! In fact, I find many gays to be extremely funny!
You really have a poor characterization of me based on a statistically-found viewpoint, and I firmly believe it is due to your stereotypes of White, Right-Wing, Tea-Party, Christian Conservatives. I've pretty much laid out a good representation of my ideology, and yet you continue to depict me as someone who lives in fear and hates everybody and wants them all to die, and that's just not the case. However, I want to be around people that welcome me, and statistics show that is NOT likely to happen around minorities. As such, it takes me a LONG time to become comfortable enough with a minority to become friends, and even then there is only so far I'm willing to go. Hell, I've learned a lot from BigBlackGuy and ChocolateMilk (among others of course), and deeply respect them. You really should actually think about the messages I've been delivering in my posts before trying to assassinate my character, which has clearly been your goal from your first reply to my post (with the Hitler thing), which was CLEARLY out of line. But it's okay, it's not the first time I've been called Hitler (I AM in the Tea-Party, so I'm used to typical Lefty name-calling).
I simply want my children to be good, moral, God-Fearing people, and the rest is up to God. But I believe that the best way for me to prepare them with a good childhood (and a safer one), as well as a better education, is to keep them under the wing of European Civilization. After they grow up, THEN they can diversify if they so choose.
08-28-2011, 09:11 PM
I don't have time to reply to your massive post, but I'll try and hit some points. Singing kill that white bitch doesn't make me want to kill a white woman anymore than typing this did. Or anymore than playing Call of Duty makes me want to shoot someone. You seem to think music or TV or videogames cause people to act in certain ways. I think the evidence is pretty clear they do not. A lot of my friends grew up listening to Eminem a WHITE rapper tell people to do drugs, kill women, etc. Wouldn't you know it none of them are in jail.
Lack of education, poverty, etc help drive people to crime. You still haven't provided ANY evidence that black people are targeting white people on a massive scale. All you can do is show a black person committing a crime against a white person and say "see they are all alike!"
And honestly knowing your young and in community college lends me to believe you might just not be very educated at this point. I'm not really trying to be a jerk with that statement, but you REALLY don't sound very educated. Your hypocrisy alone is mind-blowing as is you saying things like "you really see more whites fighting? I call BS!" Yeah I see a lot more whites fighting. In fact, I've seen two black people in a fight in my entire life. Part of that is because where I went to college and where I'm from the white people outnumber the black big time.
And other things make me wonder about your education level like the paragraph about you talking about blacks not learning. You know we have black CEO's, a black President, blacks who have made tremendous scientific discoveries, etc. Sounds to me like they learned something.
All in all you strike me as a person living in fear of people because of the color of their skin. You obviously have seen some blacks act in a manner that isn't appropriate for your liking and you've extrapolated that to think that all blacks are evil, similar to people thinking all Muslims are terrorists. You're more than welcome to continue to carry those viewpoints, but don't be pissed at me for not buying on.
It REALLY seems as if you haven't grasped the fact yet that some people in all sorts of races commit crimes, some people in all sorts of races do brilliant things, some people in all sorts of races aren't educated, etc. When you paint entire races of people in these large brush strokes you're almost always going to be wrong. Most of the people I grew up with who are in jail are white. And wouldn't you know it you don't see me going around saying clearly all white people are criminals because some of the ones I knew are!
And I'm more than a little shocked you have friends of different races since you apparently think they are a lower class of people.
08-28-2011, 09:20 PM
When you decide on buying a new car, you look at things like reliability, average cost of ownership due to repairs/maintenance over time, etc. Not every car costs that, some cost more, some less. But you make your decisions based on odds and statistics. If its legitimate to do this in buying a car, selecting a place to live, etc why is it so horrible to apply the same logic to who you associate with as an individual ?
08-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Personally I feel it's VERY backwards thinking, but I know a lot of people who are scared of other races, people of sexual orientation, etc. And I feel a bit sorry for them. I'd hate to be going out in my day to day life in fear of someone because he looks like he might be gay or scared because I see a black person walking down the street.
He's free to do that though. Some people in this country seem to always wish it was the old days. The rest of us have moved on. A lot of us call that progress. To people like Brian it's obviously horrible. He strikes me as a person who if you built a time machine would go back and say "ah thank goodness, a whites only restaurant!"
08-28-2011, 09:37 PM
See I don't quite see where he's said any of the things you accuse him of. He doesn't say all minorities are that way, but that odds are greater % wise that they are, which isn't debatable from government statistics. You can say what you want about the odds of them becoming criminals being based on their poverty or education but with the staggering horrible % of black children being raised by teen mothers, or single moms, on government assistance with 4+ kids, the poverty and education issues are caused by the parents or effective lack thereof. That's not a fault of the government, not a fault of white people, but a fault of the black culture that doesn't stand up for parents to be parents. Listen to Bill Cosby, if he were to run for president, I'd vote for himOriginally Posted by seccsi
08-28-2011, 09:47 PM
"I'm becoming very racist, I'm all for segregation, whites and blacks don't mix, it is unsafe to be a white boy, white people don't have fun (because of blacks), blacks target whites, whites can't learn because blacks are beating on the desks, and flowing." Need I go on?
He clearly doesn't agree with Dr. King that a man should be judged on the content of his character and not the color of his skin. My point was (to use yours as an example) lots of WHITE children are being raised by teen mothers or single moms, lots of WHITE people are on government assistance, etc. He has this idea that black people are the only ones doing anything wrong or at least scary enough that we need segregation. I was point out how backwards of a thought that is.
You can try and say I'm mixing up his arguments but he's all but said he doesn't want to be around black people. He wants segregation. The vast majority of Americans are not in favor of that. But as I said, he's free to be ignorant and try and use statistics to support his racism. It doesn't matter what statistic he finds that show what we already know (percentage wise blacks commit more crime), he's still fearful and dislikes people based on the color of their skin.
Just because 100% of the people who have driven a van loaded with explosives into a hospital in Oklahoma City are white doesn't mean that when I go to visit my good friend in Oklahoma City I should be scared of any white driver in a van.
08-28-2011, 09:48 PM
Finally you pegged me! That's what I've been saying all along! If I want to go to a "Whites only restaurant", I CAN'T! They cannot exist legally! Why is that? Is this not America? And I've got news for you...MANY people DO want segregation back (even Justice Clarence Thomas, who is black, postulates that blacks could not do any worse in education if they were segregated to black schools, to learn from black teachers, in black culture). As far as fearing black people when walking down the street, you are absolutely correct (due to incidents I have stated in previous posts). Life is a bitch, and I chose to learn from my experiences.
And as far as not providing any significant evidence about blacks targeting Whites on a massive scale, what part of 80% of the 1.4 million (or 1.7...I forget) were commited by blacks on Whites did not provide that evidence? What about the DOZENS of flash mobs TARGETING Whites all over the country doesn't get that point across? What part of mainstream RAP music talking about killing Whites doesn't get that point across? I've provided LOTS of evidence to that point.
As far as being educated, I'm just starting my educational career as a Computer Science major. I received a 96 on my ASVAB going into the Air Force, and a 32 on my ACTs. I currently have a 3.74 GPA, and enrolled in such classes as Chem 110 and Calculus II (obviously having completed Calculus I). My logical/reasoning skills are on-point, and I have provided a multitude of evidence to back up my claims. You may not believe as I do, but you cannot argue against the facts. But hey, no liberal ever lets facts get in the way of THEIR logic, have they!
08-28-2011, 09:55 PM
Actually, the fact that lots of White children are "being raised by teen mothers and single moms" and are on government assistance, etc. helps to prove my point. THEY aren't out killing each other in record numbers, are they? There goes your poverty arguement. They're not out there raping/murdering blacks in record numbers, are they? AT LEAST they are keeping to themselves, hence why I feel no immediate threat by them. But yet the blacks living in the SAME situations, are out there gang-banging, killing people, dropping out of school, etc. etc. So I guess that leaves education as the only culprit (as far as you're concerned) to potentiate the possibility of becoming a rapist/murderer. And again, does that make YOU responsible as a teacher, or are they responsible for being dumb? Your call. Or is it society for not expecting anything of them? Oh, oh, or is it GEORGE BUSH'S fault?!? Should be interesting to see where you lay the blame for that one. Anywho, thanks for proving my point.Originally Posted by seccsi
08-28-2011, 10:02 PM
You are mixing and matching his arguments. He said he doesn't want to be around non white people, but it is that he wants the choice, the freedom to choose. Hell, Michelle Obama's thesis paper was basically "why I avoid associating with white people". I've never understood why its treated as perfectly acceptable for minorities to feel that way, but not if someone white does. Hell, Hispanics are so much more prejudiced against blacks that a majority of them would be clan members if they were white. I have to grit my teeth sometimes around members of my wife's family.Originally Posted by seccsi
And there also is a huge difference, and makes it obvious that its not genetic, between 3rd+ generation American black families, and more recent immigrant black families. It's obviously the cultural difference. I've got a number of friends who are black, and the ones whose lineage in the US dates more than 3 generations are so completely different.
08-28-2011, 10:06 PM
And yes clearly since I'm a teacher I'm responsible for all things anyone does. Excellent.
Who the **** is bringing up Presidents and why?
08-28-2011, 10:09 PM
Your statistic proves his point rather than yours though. White people make up more than 52% of the population, so proportionately you are less likely to be raped by someone white. Those style of statistics you quoted are exactly what gets used by equal opportunity lawsuits to "prove" discrimination.Originally Posted by seccsi
08-28-2011, 10:09 PM
Early on I pointed out that if he doesn't want to be near anyone who is different he can move to a rural area far away from diversity. We aren't going back to the way he wants things.
08-28-2011, 10:10 PM
You say he can have what he wants, then say we can't go back to how he wants things. Which is it?Originally Posted by seccsi
08-28-2011, 10:12 PM
I really don't know why you are so quick to defend his thinking unless you agree with his points on segregation. Which from a lot of your other posts wouldn't surprise me in the LEAST bit.
But I have to go to bed. I have to teach tomorrow. Thankfully it's almost all white kids that I teach so I KNOW none of them are ever going to do anything wrong. It's not like they drop out of school, do drugs, kill people, or anything like that. Not a chance. If only we didn't have the other races nothing would EVER GO WRONG!
08-28-2011, 10:13 PM
I thought that was pretty obvious.
08-28-2011, 10:14 PM
When you say he can have what he wants, then on the next sentence say he can't, its hard to tell what you are trying to say.Originally Posted by seccsi
08-28-2011, 10:23 PM
More white people in raw numbers? Sure, cause there are 5x as many white people as black people. Perhaps if you are going to attempt to make a point with statistics you'd be better able to prove your point if you used actual numbers rather than make them up. You'd think as a teacher you'd understand the value of representing data correctly. But then again I don't know what you teach, it could be philosophy for all I know.Originally Posted by seccsi
Why is it ok that minorities can choose to segregate themselves, but the majority cant?
I have no interest in segregation. I'm married to a Hispanic woman, and have more male black friends than white ones. That doesn't change odds, statistics, or the reality that we treat racism when done by minorities as acceptable. The fact that I have no sympathy for those who enter our country illegally does not affect what rights every American citizen has.
08-28-2011, 10:24 PM
08-28-2011, 10:27 PM
I have never attempted to make the argument that racism done by minorities is acceptable. I find it reprehensible, just like I find Brian's views on blacks.
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