Obama to support ground zero mosque

[masterX]

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[BabyHulk]

I've been around the block with some people on this when it first made the news and they were suggesting where it be built.

[omni]

When I've played real time strategy games, I like to blow my enemies buildings up and build one of my own near them. It's like putting your flag up on their land. Even a child can see how disrespectful the Muslims are being. I have always been all for freedom of religion, until now. Our schools are teaching sensitivity to these people, but they can't see how insensitive this location is? This shows me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not a religion of peace. Where is the money coming from to build this mosque? There's a Paypal account set up for people to make anonymous donations. I'd be willing to bet some of the money is coming from terrorists. I have zero respect for Obama. Why during a time of war with Muslim terrorists did we elect a guy without a real birth certificate, with no leadership or business experience, named Barack Hussein Obama. He's a Trojan horse in my opinion.

[dsade]

When I've played real time strategy games, I like to blow my enemies buildings up and build one of my own near them. It's like putting your flag up on their land. Even a child can see how disrespectful the Muslims are being. I have always been all for freedom of religion, until now. Our schools are teaching sensitivity to these people, but they can't see how insensitive this location is? This shows me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not a religion of peace. Where is the money coming from to build this mosque? There's a Paypal account set up for people to make anonymous donations. I'd be willing to bet some of the money is coming from terrorists. I have zero respect for Obama. Why during a time of war with Muslim terrorists did we elect a guy without a real birth certificate, with no leadership or business experience, named Barack Hussein Obama. He's a Trojan horse in my opinion.

Because the Christians are/were far superior?

[omni]

I'd feel the same way if it were Roman Catholics that bombed New York and then tried to build a church for victory. If the tables were turned, and this happened in a Muslim nation, you think a church would be allowed to be built? Nah. they'd blow it up.

[dsade]

I'd feel the same way if it were Roman Catholics that bombed New York and then tried to build a church for victory. If the tables were turned, and this happened in a Muslim nation, you think a church would be allowed to be built? Nah. they'd blow it up.

Some muslim nations are quite tolerant (Jordan, for instance).

Broad brushes are often inaccurate.

[omni]

I know people from Jordan. I don't think they would allow blatant disrespect for their nation either.

[dsade]

I know people from Jordan. I don't think they would allow blatant disrespect for their nation either.

That's because there is nothing disrespectful about this whole situation.

disclaimer: so far. I know there were questions about funding sources and Saudi ties to the leadership here. If this turns out to have grounds then I would likely modify my opinion, but as it stands I am not offended at the current proposal.

[omni]

I think the majority of Americans would disagree with you.

[dsade]

I think the majority of Americans would disagree with you.

See, that's what was supposed to be great about America. The tyranny of the majority cannot stomp on the rights of the minority. Personally, I still support this principle.

Sad to see so many don't.

[DAdams91982]

See, that's what was supposed to be great about America. The tyranny of the majority cannot stomp on the rights of the minority. Personally, I still support this principle.

Sad to see so many don't.

The only reason I do not support this is because of the direct selection relative to Ground Zero. They were offered other land FOR FREE, but denied it becuase they wanted to be rock throwing distance to ground zero. Mosque have been built in the same fashion in other countries. As with such of Gettysburg, the area should be considered Hallowed ground.

[dsade]

The only reason I do not support this is because of the direct selection relative to Ground Zero. They were offered other land FOR FREE, but denied it becuase they wanted to be rock throwing distance to ground zero. Mosque have been built in the same fashion in other countries. As with such of Gettysburg, the area should be considered Hallowed ground.

How large of a radius out from GZ? 2 blocks? 3? 5? 100 miles? Same state?

[DAdams91982]

How large of a radius out from GZ? 2 blocks? 3? 5? 100 miles? Same state?

There is precedence for this with the lookout tower that was going to be built at gettysburg... Nice little condescending attitude though.

[dsade]

There is precedence for this with the lookout tower that was going to be built at gettysburg... Nice little condescending attitude though.

I wasn't being condescending, it was a serious question.

The Wharrgarrbl is that this is going to be built on TOP of the ruins, which is ridiculous. The question is valid....what is a reasonable distance away?

Also, consider that the project (which is also supposed to be a youth center, if I am not mistaken) MIGHT just be an attempt to demonstrate ideological distance from the terrorists and other extremists by helping to do some good.

[DAdams91982]

I wasn't being condescending, it was a serious question.

The Wharrgarrbl is that this is going to be built on TOP of the ruins, which is ridiculous. The question is valid....what is a reasonable distance away?

Also, consider that the project (which is also supposed to be a youth center, if I am not mistaken) MIGHT just be an attempt to demonstrate ideological distance from the terrorists and other extremists by helping to do some good.

Right around the corner is unacceptable. I mean why don't we just build a german cultural center across the street from Auschwitz? Seems perfectly acceptable.

New Yorkers are not happy about this, so whose voice gets silenced and whose doesn't?

[dsade]

Right around the corner is unacceptable. I mean why don't we just build a german cultural center across the street from Auschwitz? Seems perfectly acceptable.

New Yorkers are not happy about this, so whose voice gets silenced and whose doesn't?

If the German cultural center's purpose was to heal damage done by the holocaust and promote unity amongst ALL Germans (including German Jews) then what's the problem.

Whose voice get's silenced? I don't know...it would fall under Constitutional Rights and Freedom of Religion.

Personally, I think it will get firebombed out of existence anyway soon after being built - but that is just a sad consequence.

[DAdams91982]

If the German cultural center's purpose was to heal damage done by the holocaust and promote unity amongst ALL Germans (including German Jews) then what's the problem.

Whose voice get's silenced? I don't know...it would fall under Constitutional Rights and Freedom of Religion.

Personally, I think it will get firebombed out of existence anyway soon after being built - but that is just a sad consequence.

If the purpose was to heal, then the American outcry against the mosque would have been listened to when offered other state sponsored property a little farther away. You do not know the purpose of the mosque and denial of free property elsewhere makes me think otherwise than healing.

[dsade]

If the purpose was to heal, then the American outcry against the mosque would have been listened to when offered other state sponsored property a little farther away. You do not know the purpose of the mosque and denial of free property elsewhere makes me think otherwise than healing.

Read my disclaimer above. My opinions at this point are conditional upon innocuous purposes.

[masterX]

Why build a mosquee intead of a place for all religions? Because obama is a muslim and you voted him president.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY"]YouTube- Obama Admits He Is A Muslim[/nomedia]


Lot of religions died in the WTC, so why a mosquee at this place?


OBAMA IS SCARY

[EasyEJL]

Why build a mosquee intead of a place for all religions? Because obama is a muslim and you voted him president.

YouTube- Obama Admits He Is A Muslim


Lot of religions died in the WTC, so why a mosquee at this place?


OBAMA IS SCARY

How about because the people paying for it are muslims? Its an empty abandoned building, not being used in years, if not decades. They are going to tear it down and spend hundreds of millions (on union labor) building a civic center that includes a mosque. the mosque is a small portion of the total building.

I really hate agreeing with anything Obama says, but in this case, I fail to see the problem too. Freedom of Religion is right there in the constitution...