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    Ron Paul: Repeal the War on Drugs -- just like we repealed Prohibition



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    huh? the embedded video isnt working for you guys?
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    You post the URL or copy and post all of the text in the URL after the "=" symbol and bracket it between [yt]<-these->[/yt]
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    AMEN !!! RON PAUL IS CORRECT...HOPEFULLY WE WILL LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
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    didn't watch the video, but I'm a total advocate of the Harm Reduction plan in controlling the effects of drugs. If we examine similar situations in similar locations such as Vancouver, we can see how effective it is in preventing the spread of HIV and other bloodborne illnesses, unecessary incarceration and strain on the economy, etc. I could talk all day about this shiznit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    You post the URL or copy and post all of the text in the URL after the "=" symbol and bracket it between [yt]<-these->[/yt]
    can anyone clarify this? i cant get it to work.
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    There's some progress on this front going on in California(only on this front though in California).
    Prop 19 in California

    Here is a video of Milton Friedman detailing the reasons why the drug war should be ended, my favorite part of this is when he acknowledges that there may be more drug users if they are legal. However, a drug user isn't an innocent victim, whereas a kid killed in a driveby shooting in a turf war is an innocent victim. He says it better than me, except he is so old and white he calls it a passby shooting.YouTube- Milton Friedman - Why Drugs Should Be Legalized
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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo679 View Post
    There's some progress on this front going on in California(only on this front though in California).
    Prop 19 in California

    Here is a video of Milton Friedman detailing the reasons why the drug war should be ended, my favorite part of this is when he acknowledges that there may be more drug users if they are legal. However, a drug user isn't an innocent victim, whereas a kid killed in a driveby shooting in a turf war is an innocent victim. He says it better than me, except he is so old and white he calls it a passby shooting.YouTube- Milton Friedman - Why Drugs Should Be Legalized
    I have been following Prop 19 pretty closely. I hope it passes. The rest of the country will be forced to crumble. California will hit new waves of tourism, and it will be to hard to border the weed, so it would be easily transported out of the state. If states are getting more mj in their state, they mine as well be making tax money from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Yours isn't showing either!
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    Ron Paul is the man. There's hardly anything I disagree with him on. If americans had a conscious, he would be president.
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    I am afraid that Obama might be re elected for the same reason he made it the 1st time.
    Can not remember who said The people will allways get the gov they DESERVE.
    I tend to agree.
    Hopefully one day enough people will wake up and elect some one like Mr. Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SELFofGOD View Post
    I am afraid that Obama might be re elected for the same reason he made it the 1st time.
    Can not remember who said The people will allways get the gov they DESERVE.
    I tend to agree.
    Hopefully one day enough people will wake up and elect some one like Mr. Ron Paul.
    Me and my Dad hit heads viciously when it comes to Politics, but we both would like to see Ron Paul as a serious candidate. Unfortunately, we both agree on one thing.

    His ideas are great, may seem a bit radical in some regards, but great foundation for politics. However, he comes off as a bit looney at times. He becomes so impassionate in what he is talking about (good thing), but some times it overcomes his emotions, and he appears a bit off. This is something I think that interferes with him gaining American trust.
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    I really hope that he will make another run at President. I think he is truely what we need. The problem that is going to happen with CA is that state law can't superseed federal. Now if we can get Ron Paul as President... Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I have been following Prop 19 pretty closely. I hope it passes. The rest of the country will be forced to crumble. California will hit new waves of tourism, and it will be to hard to border the weed, so it would be easily transported out of the state. If states are getting more mj in their state, they mine as well be making tax money from it.
    I hope so too. I want all the hippies, weed obsessed dregs of society, and degenerates to move there (more than the usual batch). That said, legalizing all drugs, like coke, heroin, and ecstasy is a hilariously bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    That said, legalizing all drugs, like coke, heroin, and ecstasy is a hilariously bad idea.
    why? why is it hilariously a bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    I hope so too. I want all the hippies, weed obsessed dregs of society, and degenerates to move there (more than the usual batch). That said, legalizing all drugs, like coke, heroin, and ecstasy is a hilariously bad idea.

    YouTube- Glenn Greenwald on Drug Decriminalization in Portugal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    I hope so too. I want all the hippies, weed obsessed dregs of society, and degenerates to move there (more than the usual batch). That said, legalizing all drugs, like coke, heroin, and ecstasy is a hilariously bad idea.
    Before I state my opinion on the matter, I would love to see you justify your comment.
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    This is a horrible idea. The only way I'd be ok with it is if they tested for drugs for goverment assistance and loosened gun laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    This is a horrible idea. The only way I'd be ok with it is if they tested for drugs for goverment assistance and loosened gun laws.
    Are you discussing the legalization of Marijuana? Please, please inform me of why you think this would be a bad idea?

    I am not trying to start a flame war, I am honestly curious to what the other side thinks...
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    Ron Paul is one of the few politicians who wants to preserve the true spirit of America and for that I applaud him

    I'd like to see everything decriminalized. And a lot of things legalized. Mainly weed and steroids. Hey i think prostitution should be OK too. Weed, roids and hookers, man you are set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    Ron Paul is one of the few politicians who wants to preserve the true spirit of America and for that I applaud him

    I'd like to see everything decriminalized. And a lot of things legalized. Mainly weed and steroids. Hey i think prostitution should be OK too. Weed, roids and hookers, man you are set.
    I support the same thing. Decriminalization across the board and legalization in for certain things. Focus our drug war money on abuse prevention and recovery, rather then filling a jail cell.

    I love conservatives that consider themselves "fiscally conservative" but are pro drug war. Do you know how much of your tax dollars go towards keeping a kid in jail who sold some weed to his buddies?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I support the same thing. Decriminalization across the board and legalization in for certain things. Focus our drug war money on abuse prevention and recovery, rather then filling a jail cell.
    good post.......

    the question to ask people, if heroin was legal would you change your mind do it?

    if you want to do it and its illegal, you will get it......hard core drugs were easier for me to get in high school than beer.

    we need to take criminals off the street simply by legalizing drugs, and then having cash for having good support and education about drugs and its dangers.

    1/2 trillion dollars since 1970's has not changed anything, just filled up prisons and made alot of criminals rich. so after 40 years why stay the course?
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    ...especially when we all know prohibition does not and never has worked. The US admitted fault when people like Capone were shooting up people in the streets to get people their prohibited vice (alcohol), but cant admit fault when our countries law counters the demand for these drugs, and we have not only violence in our country, but near war like violence in others to feed the demand.
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    Yes, legalization of marj is a not a good idea. I'm a probation officer so I see the damage. Some have this theory that there are drug users that are not hurting anyone and should not go to jail. Well most are violent drug users. We actually tried a program to take drug users only with no violent crimes and give them treatment. Well they had to open the door violent crimes too because they did not have enough people in the program to justify having the program. They had to stop violating the drug users to show the program as a success because treatment does not work. Yes, continued drug use and new misd, and felonys were still considered a success.
    As far as costs of locking them up. Tent city costs very little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    Yes, legalization of marj is a not a good idea. I'm a probation officer so I see the damage. Some have this theory that there are drug users that are not hurting anyone and should not go to jail. Well most are violent drug users. We actually tried a program to take drug users only with no violent crimes and give them treatment. Well they had to open the door violent crimes too because they did not have enough people in the program to justify having the program. They had to stop violating the drug users to show the program as a success because treatment does not work. Yes, continued drug use and new misd, and felonys were still considered a success.
    As far as costs of locking them up. Tent city costs very little.
    but marijuana is illegal, and widely used. the point is making it illegal wont stop anybody from doing it.

    this supports drug dealers and puts alot of cash in their pockets. we could be putting the money into the system for scientific research to cure diseases such as cancer, and also putting the money into drug education and better rehab programs.

    legalizing drugs isnt about getting people to do drugs. i dont do drugs, i dont even drink alcohol, never ever. im the straightest you can get not including bodybuilding supplements (lol). i know if drugs were legal i still wouldnt do it, but the fact is i can walk into town and find most drugs easily available but that doesnt mean my accessibility will cause me to try it. something isnt working here with the war on drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    Yes, legalization of marj is a not a good idea. I'm a probation officer so I see the damage. Some have this theory that there are drug users that are not hurting anyone and should not go to jail. Well most are violent drug users. We actually tried a program to take drug users only with no violent crimes and give them treatment. Well they had to open the door violent crimes too because they did not have enough people in the program to justify having the program. They had to stop violating the drug users to show the program as a success because treatment does not work. Yes, continued drug use and new misd, and felonys were still considered a success.
    As far as costs of locking them up. Tent city costs very little.
    I am going to highly (no pun - I am at work) disagree.

    Marijuana does not, and never has, caused violence. Numerous organizations have come out to say this, including government bodies and police officials.

    Government Body (This is a defense lawyers site, but he links source):
    http://blog.austindefense.com/2007/1...ause-violence/

    Here is a police organization dedicated to repealing prohibition:
    http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

    You situation seems to not be the norm, but is no different then saying Bernie Madoff drank milk, so milk has a correlation to financial crime. Have you smoked pot? I couldn't imagine being in a fight while high, much less stronger violence.

    BTW, stating drug use is linked to violence and marijuana is linked to violence should be two different things. Also, if we are going to strictly consider a precurser to violence, I would love to see the numbers of violent crimes, particularly domestic violence, commited while under the influence of alcohol.

    Also noteworthy to discuss that marijuana prohibition is costing us alot of money. ALOT. This, again, is a blog, but it is just a copy of a forbes article put onto the blog:
    http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=860
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